Hyatt might loose 22 SVC owned properties to Sonesta like Marriott and IHG
Apr 25, 2021, 9:53 am
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I was just joking, sorry to get you "going." I was just commenting on the fact that SVC's decision appears to be under review, given the dramatic increase in the number of properties, and the corresponding dropoff in occupancy. But Sonesta will have to do something with all the new hotels, so they are giving out points, like 1000 to 2500 bonus per night or 2x and 3x with rate codes, plus they do have some (few) decent places: The Clift in SF, and a number of more upscale looking properties (older of course) under their Royal Sonesta brand. 95,000 points for their World MC CC and at 30k for a tier 9 (most of the Royal Sonestas,) or 40,000 for their Kauai Resort -looks like it next to the old Westin Lihue near the airport. Though, in the Hotel Deals forum, there is a thread about Sonesta Maho Beach St. Maarten which people seem to like.
I'd stick to Hyatt, or Marriott, depends on your location and where you stay.
I'd stick to Hyatt, or Marriott, depends on your location and where you stay.
Apr 25, 2021, 4:49 pm
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I'm sure that SVC/Sonesta learned the downside of reflagging the IHG and Marriott properties, especially the cost vs. benefits (saving some management fees,) and decided that the HP's and other lower level properties could not bear the cost to remove the Hyatt touch. And, Sonesta is experiencing a major decrease in occupancy (from 60%+ to 40%+,) so they weren't getting that "guaranteed" minimum anyway they slice it.
I suspect that Hyatt was also more willing to try and work to keep the properties given the limited footprint. It seems like amid the downturn, Marriott (in particular) was just as happy to shed a few dozen properties that were probably underperforming and/or which would reduce over-exposure.
Apr 26, 2021, 2:22 am
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Is this proof that Sonesta was dumb to strip their properties of their IHG/Marriott flags because I’m looking for proof of my intuition that that was a terrible idea.
Apr 10, 2022, 9:00 am
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Looks like this was avoided and agreement extended to 2031
https://www.hotelmanagement.net/oper...t-place-hotels
https://www.hotelmanagement.net/oper...t-place-hotels
Apr 10, 2022, 12:24 pm
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??? the title of this thread is "Hyatt might loose 22 SVC owned properties to Sonesta like Marriott and IHG" so there were 22 props in danger of leaving. Now if you had clicked onto the link in the post right above yours the article dated 6/7/21 says 22 are staying so with the little math I know 22-22=0 leaving
Apr 10, 2022, 8:22 pm
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Apr 10, 2022, 8:49 pm
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??? the title of this thread is "Hyatt might loose 22 SVC owned properties to Sonesta like Marriott and IHG" so there were 22 props in danger of leaving. Now if you had clicked onto the link in the post right above yours the article dated 6/7/21 says 22 are staying so with the little math I know 22-22=0 leaving
Under the amended agreement, Hyatt will continue to manage 17 of the hotels for a 10-year term effective as of April 1.
SVC and Hyatt have transitioned management of the five remaining hotels to Sonesta International Hotels Corp. under the Sonesta Select brand