Globalist via Vegas and Mlife

Old Dec 27, 20, 12:57 am
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Globalist via Vegas and Mlife

Several Vegas questions, trying to be succinct. Likely going to Macae, Brazil to earn Globalist in January, but the boyfriend loves Vegas. Just in case we go that route, ya’ll should know I frequently get great and/or comped rooms there, I am MLife Gold, Caesar’s Diamond+ which means no resort fees, and actually have decided to commit recently to Cosmo.


  • · I know you can’t stay longer than 14 nights in a row, does a 13 night stay, swap to another chain a few days, go back count for two separate stays and is thus valid for each?
  • · If I get comped rooms through MLife, I know those don’t count as qualifying nights. If I pick a room above my comp level, often they’re just a few dollars, and even then I don’t know if MLife is counting it as 16 dollars per night, or really 0, 0, 0, 64… since those rooms are no longer fully free, wondering if they are now valid? Or do you have to book on Hyatt site anyway? Hyatt site says no 3rd party bookings, but not sure if Mlife.com is considered 3rd party…
  • · Do you get to earn both Hyatt AND MLife Tier points when staying? The terms suggest yes, but I would rather ask someone with experience. Only in Vegas… when in a Hyatt in say, Texas, you can only earn EITHER Hyatt or MLife points, I think. And regardless, the points aren’t multiplied. I do know I WON’T be allowed to claim 600 Southwest points if I opt for Hyatt.
  • · This is a better question for my Vegas Message Board forum, but could this severely hurt your average gambling theoretical loss, and thus, Vegas comp offers, having your name tied to the room but not actually gambling big for 13 days straight? I know I could stay at the Hyatt Place Vegas but it isn’t on strip… or near the boyfriend’s favorite taco bell cantina.


Thanks, hoping for someone who has legit experience in doing this before (though perhaps not this new 15 nights for globalist promo but still)
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Old Dec 27, 20, 4:01 am
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MLife bookings are qualifying. In how far you can book a higher category and that counts as qualifying would be an interesting approach.
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Old Dec 27, 20, 9:25 am
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When you're booking a comp'd room offer, and you pay for an upgraded room, if you're doing it online, click on show rate details, or whatever they're calling it this week. If it shows as $0, $0, $64, you'll only get credit for a single night, although your rate will be eligible for earnings based on room charges.

You will earn both sets of tier credits, but as you point out if you're getting decent comps, staying for a month and not gambling like a mad man, will kill your offers. Mlife uses average trip theoretical (as opposed to CET which uses daily average theoretical).
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Old Dec 27, 20, 10:33 pm
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Originally Posted by Zelucifer View Post
When you're booking a comp'd room offer, and you pay for an upgraded room, if you're doing it online, click on show rate details, or whatever they're calling it this week. If it shows as $0, $0, $64, you'll only get credit for a single night, although your rate will be eligible for earnings based on room charges.
Not to further complicate or confuse things, but my experience has been the opposite: comp nights booked through mlife.com (with the resort fee charged) have always earned qualifying nights.
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Old Dec 28, 20, 12:20 am
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Thanks all, my post here and Vegas Message Board both seem to have garnered more positive replies than the your miles may vary type replies I was expecting. Almost everyone seems to agree if you pay a few bucks for the room, like 5 dollars plus resort fees, and it is 14 days or less, it should count. Even if I don't try it early January, I certainly will soon, and I may ask for credit from my stays earlier this year, though I don't think I'll hit enough nights to earn anything new, I can at least see if they indeed count them.

Less replies on the effect on comped rooms or discounted rooms in the future, but general consensus is that yes, I'll royally screw up my offers if I do stay a week or two but only bring my standard, long weekend budget. Choices...
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Old Dec 28, 20, 1:46 am
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Originally Posted by Carolina2Cali View Post
Do you get to earn both Hyatt AND MLife Tier points when staying? The terms suggest yes, but I would rather ask someone with experience. Only in Vegas… when in a Hyatt in say, Texas, you can only earn EITHER Hyatt or MLife points, I think. And regardless, the points aren’t multiplied. I do know I WON’T be allowed to claim 600 Southwest points if I opt for Hyatt.
Yes, you'll earn Hyatt points (both redeemable and base points) as well as Mlife tier credits - the likely reason for this discrepancy (vs. other programs/relationships) is that Mlife TCs are only for earning status; they are distinct from redeemable points.

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Not to further complicate or confuse things, but my experience has been the opposite: comp nights booked through mlife.com (with the resort fee charged) have always earned qualifying nights.
There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to this (that we've been able to figure out). Many FT'ers have reported never getting a single qualifying night for comp nights (I'm in this category, despite several dozen comp stays since the partnership began), others have always gotten them, and even a few have had mixed experiences. I make Glob regardless, but it's still frustrating because I never hit 100 nights to max out the bonuses.
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Old Dec 28, 20, 1:51 am
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Originally Posted by gengar View Post
Yes, you'll earn Hyatt points (both redeemable and base points) as well as Mlife tier credits - the likely reason for this discrepancy (vs. other programs/relationships) is that Mlife TCs are only for earning status; they are distinct from redeemable points.



There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to this (that we've been able to figure out). Many FT'ers have reported never getting a single qualifying night for comp nights (I'm in this category, despite several dozen comp stays since the partnership began), others have always gotten them, and even a few have had mixed experiences. I make Globalist off base points anyway, but it's still frustrating because I never hit 100 nights to max out the bonuses.
Your first point makes total sense, tier credits themselves are directly valueless, and to be honest, most of MLife's tiers are too. That seems why you could earn both I suppose Caesar tier credits are better or actually have some sense of intrinsic value, or they did but are losing steam, but their properties, not so much.

Second point, do you have your account number in your MLife profile, or do you provide it to the person at the desk upon check in? Have you already done a comparison with others on all possibilities and are all truly at a loss? What has Hyatt said when you called? Were they truly 100 percent comped or did you ever book slightly above comp for a few bucks and see what happened?

Lastly, is Gengar a Pokemon reference?
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Old Dec 28, 20, 5:08 am
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Originally Posted by Carolina2Cali View Post
Second point, do you have your account number in your MLife profile, or do you provide it to the person at the desk upon check in? Have you already done a comparison with others on all possibilities and are all truly at a loss? What has Hyatt said when you called? Were they truly 100 percent comped or did you ever book slightly above comp for a few bucks and see what happened?
Accounts are definitely linked as on comped nights I've gotten Hyatt points for room charges that my host neglected to remove - for even as small a total bill as a single minibar charge on the morning of departure. Still a big fat zero in the qualifying nights column, though.

IIRC, there was some discussion on FT about having hosts do a low casino rate (e.g., $1/night) to get nights credit; however, my host claimed this isn't possible (what I assume he meant is that I'm not a big enough deal to get him to do it) and others got similar responses.

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Lastly, is Gengar a Pokemon reference?
Yes!

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Old Dec 28, 20, 9:13 am
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There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to this (that we've been able to figure out). Many FT'ers have reported never getting a single qualifying night for comp nights (I'm in this category, despite several dozen comp stays since the partnership began), others have always gotten them, and even a few have had mixed experiences. I make Glob regardless, but it's still frustrating because I never hit 100 nights to max out the bonuses.
Likewise, haven't been able to figure it out either.

I've had comped nights earn Hyatt nighs credit, while others have not. There doesn't seem to be a pattern to any of it, except that, for whatever reason, my stays at the Bellagio have always earned them, and the the ones at the Aria hadn't. I suspect my host realizes these night credits are important to me, and during one stay, like the old days, I had gotten credit for not only the Hyatt nights but double or triple WN points. LOL...no idea how that glitched happened. It was after I tried the new Park MGM thing (forgot the name, Nomad?), and I didn't get my nights. I wasn't happy, and shared my disappointment with my host.
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Old Dec 28, 20, 3:20 pm
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I've had comped nights earn Hyatt nighs credit, while others have not. There doesn't seem to be a pattern to any of it, except that, for whatever reason, my stays at the Bellagio have always earned them, and the the ones at the Aria hadn't.
This just adds more to the confusion since my Mlife stays have been split about half-and-half between Aria and Bellagio.
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Old Dec 28, 20, 3:31 pm
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This just adds more to the confusion since my Mlife stays have been split about half-and-half between Aria and Bellagio.
I've never had any stays earn night credit across Bellagio/MB/Aria, but I haven't specifically given my Hyatt # at checkin since my rooms are comped up front so I assumed they wouldn't qualify and didn't bother with it.

I have a test stay booked in Jan at Excal through the Hyatt app though for $23/night + resort fees (hoping either to get those removed or use express comps), will see how that goes.
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Old Dec 28, 20, 8:20 pm
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Originally Posted by Zorak View Post
I've never had any stays earn night credit across Bellagio/MB/Aria, but I haven't specifically given my Hyatt # at checkin since my rooms are comped up front so I assumed they wouldn't qualify and didn't bother with it.
I've never actually provided my Hyatt number at check-in at Mlife properties - but it's also never been a problem. Nearly all (certainly 90%+) of my stays have posted automatically without issue, although a few needed me to e-mail the Mlife memberservices e-mail address.
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I've never actually provided my Hyatt number at check-in at Mlife properties - but it's also never been a problem. Nearly all (certainly 90%+) of my stays have posted automatically without issue, although a few needed me to e-mail the Mlife memberservices e-mail address.
Likewise, every paid stay has always posted except for one, which isn't bad considering it's been a span of 5 years since the partnership? Sometimes, as a force of habit, I'll just confirm during check in they've got my Hyatt number registered correctly and have purged my WN number to ensure that there can be no doubt which parnter I'm choosing to earn points.
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Old Jan 10, 21, 2:40 pm
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I'm confused now also... I had all my stays post to Hyatt from comped Mlife. Just checked My New Years 3 night stay and now that says "0" nights earned. This messes up my Globalist run for Jan-Feb now. I had those stays, plus another Vegas and Orlando run and can't see making it now. =( I banked on the stays in Vegas. They have always been comped (with exception of resort fees) and the next Vegas one is comped also.
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Old Jan 10, 21, 3:21 pm
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Originally Posted by shand32783 View Post
I'm confused now also... I had all my stays post to Hyatt from comped Mlife. Just checked My New Years 3 night stay and now that says "0" nights earned. This messes up my Globalist run for Jan-Feb now. I had those stays, plus another Vegas and Orlando run and can't see making it now. =( I banked on the stays in Vegas. They have always been comped (with exception of resort fees) and the next Vegas one is comped also.
If the nightly rate is comped then you shouldn’t get credit. If the resort fees are comped but you pay the nightly base rate then you should get credit.
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