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toomanybooks Sep 23, 2020 6:59 am

Hyatt 4Q Mattress Run DO?
 
With the 4Q Hyatt promo(s), many people are considering long stays in a cheap Hyatt for status nights.

Just spitballing here, maybe a bunch of us could pick the same hotel with overlapping dates, and help one another with swiping in-and-out so as to avoid getting involuntarily checked out by the hotel.

There are several cat 1s not far from ORD that can be about $70 or less for cash or of course 5k points. I am sure there would be plenty of people to carpool/give rides.

The HR Schaumburg has an HP next door. Should be plenty of capacity. I think it has a free shuttle for rides to the commuter train station to downtown Chicago. Restaurants/bars nearby.

We could have a sort of rolling “Chicago Seminars-type” event where people can get together socially to the extent they want and perhaps even have some formal talks. Maybe with enough people, the hotel would do something for us. I once discussed something like this with a Hyatt at the HR and the rep said she thought one of the top World of Hyatt people would probably be willing to come visit if there were enough folks.

It appears to me that stays over New Year’s Day would be best for many people to maximize 2021 status nights.

This idea just occurred to me, so I have not thought it out. Please chime in if you think this might be of interest, specific days/hotels, ideas for activities, etc. I’d be happy to talk to some of the hotels to find one that would be amenable to a group, give perks, meeting rooms, etc.

At some point this thread might be best moved to Community Buzz.

MSPeconomist Sep 23, 2020 7:30 am

Many Hyatts aren't currently operating their shuttle service due to COVID-19, although I know of a case where the hotel made an exception for a group who had booked a smallish business meeting at the hotel. I recall seeing a shuttle vehicle at HR Schaumburg a couple years ago; it seemed to be used by a group, apparently with an arrangement to/from ORD based on the luggage I observed.

People should think about whether they want to trust a stranger with their hotel room key. Any damage, theft, or minibar raids (if applicable) would be charged to the room's registered guest.

If someone contacts hotels, it would be good to get information about lounges (assume closed, but there might be exceptions if local regulations permit it), breakfast, Glob benefits, etc.

craigthemif Sep 23, 2020 7:32 am

With status extended already, what exactly is the point of mattress running in 2020? Some Milestone Rewards that are less valuable than the cost of earning them?

Sure the nights roll over, but just mattress run in 2021 if necessary...

toomanybooks Sep 23, 2020 7:35 am


Originally Posted by craigthemif (Post 32694983)
With status extended already, what exactly is the point of mattress running in 2020? Some Milestone Rewards that are less valuable than the cost of earning them?

Sure the nights roll over, but just mattress run in 2021 if necessary...

Double status nights for 2021. Get Globalist through 2/28/23 with 30 nights.

craigthemif Sep 23, 2020 7:52 am


Originally Posted by toomanybooks (Post 32694986)
Double status nights for 2021. Get Globalist through 2/28/23 with 30 nights.

Wrong hotel chain. Hilton is doing double elite nights, not Hyatt.

AndyKehn Sep 23, 2020 8:17 am


Originally Posted by craigthemif (Post 32695009)
Wrong hotel chain. Hilton is doing double elite nights, not Hyatt.

You need to keep up...

https://frequentmiler.boardingarea.c...ttress-run-qa/

craigthemif Sep 23, 2020 9:23 am


Originally Posted by AndyKehn (Post 32695055)

There's no need to have the same debate in two separate threads.

When the T&Cs are released, we'll see whether management (and their lawyers) at Hyatt have realised how dumb it is to award double elite nights, but only to people who check out on 4 specific dates.

toomanybooks Sep 23, 2020 9:29 am

Best I presume to wait until 10/1/20 for Hyatt to release the list of hotels with quad-point offers.

myperks Sep 23, 2020 10:28 am

There are definitely some attractive rates even for the Bay Area to do a mattress run.

txhyattlvr Sep 23, 2020 3:11 pm


Originally Posted by toomanybooks (Post 32694935)
With the 4Q Hyatt promo(s), many people are considering long stays in a cheap Hyatt for status nights.

Just spitballing here, maybe a bunch of us could pick the same hotel with overlapping dates, and help one another with swiping in-and-out so as to avoid getting involuntarily checked out by the hotel.

There are several cat 1s not far from ORD that can be about $70 or less for cash or of course 5k points. I am sure there would be plenty of people to carpool/give rides.

The HR Schaumburg has an HP next door. Should be plenty of capacity. I think it has a free shuttle for rides to the commuter train station to downtown Chicago. Restaurants/bars nearby.

We could have a sort of rolling “Chicago Seminars-type” event where people can get together socially to the extent they want and perhaps even have some formal talks. Maybe with enough people, the hotel would do something for us. I once discussed something like this with a Hyatt at the HR and the rep said she thought one of the top World of Hyatt people would probably be willing to come visit if there were enough folks.

It appears to me that stays over New Year’s Day would be best for many people to maximize 2021 status nights.

This idea just occurred to me, so I have not thought it out. Please chime in if you think this might be of interest, specific days/hotels, ideas for activities, etc. I’d be happy to talk to some of the hotels to find one that would be amenable to a group, give perks, meeting rooms, etc.

At some point this thread might be best moved to Community Buzz.

Sorry but this sounds like fraud to me and reason to be permanently banned from WOH. Basically you want people to pretend they are you so you can collect nights (and monetarily valuable perks to be used later) at low cost without actually staying at the hotel. Count me out.

BTW: I know you'll rationalize your behavior, but to others reading this: lying to get something of monetary value from a person or organization that would not ordinarily provide you with such value had you not lied is textbook fraud. What OP is proposing is to purposefully deceive the hotel - which is lying about staying there. Oh yes, fraud is illegal.

This thread should be closed.

lsquare Sep 23, 2020 6:11 pm


Originally Posted by toomanybooks (Post 32694986)
Double status nights for 2021. Get Globalist through 2/28/23 with 30 nights.

Huh? I thought one EQN in 2020 will equal 1 EQN in 2021. How are you getting double EQNs for 2020?

toomanybooks Sep 23, 2020 6:31 pm


Originally Posted by lsquare (Post 32696386)
Huh? I thought one EQN in 2020 will equal 1 EQN in 2021. How are you getting double EQNs for 2020?

Read Frequent Miler blog.

toomanybooks Sep 23, 2020 6:41 pm


Originally Posted by txhyattlvr (Post 32696096)
Sorry but this sounds like fraud to me and reason to be permanently banned from WOH. Basically you want people to pretend they are you so you can collect nights (and monetarily valuable perks to be used later) at low cost without actually staying at the hotel. Count me out.

BTW: I know you'll rationalize your behavior, but to others reading this: lying to get something of monetary value from a person or organization that would not ordinarily provide you with such value had you not lied is textbook fraud. What OP is proposing is to purposefully deceive the hotel - which is lying about staying there. Oh yes, fraud is illegal.

This thread should be closed.

What in God’s name is this complete nonsense?

I think you have no idea WHATSOEVER what I am discussing.

myperks Sep 23, 2020 6:43 pm


Originally Posted by toomanybooks (Post 32696419)
Read Frequent Miler blog.

the other thread debates whether this actually works considering a hyatt rep said something completely different than the blog...

writerguyfl Sep 23, 2020 7:28 pm


Originally Posted by txhyattlvr (Post 32696096)
Sorry but this sounds like fraud to me and reason to be permanently banned from WOH. Basically you want people to pretend they are you so you can collect nights (and monetarily valuable perks to be used later) at low cost without actually staying at the hotel. Count me out.

BTW: I know you'll rationalize your behavior, but to others reading this: lying to get something of monetary value from a person or organization that would not ordinarily provide you with such value had you not lied is textbook fraud. What OP is proposing is to purposefully deceive the hotel - which is lying about staying there. Oh yes, fraud is illegal.

This thread should be closed.

I'm usually quick to point out fraud when someone suggests a scheme. I'm certain many people consider me to be a hotel apologist.

What the OP is proposing in this thread isn't fraud.

Since the people involved would actually show up at the hotel to check-in, there's no deception. Departing early without checking out and having a "friend" use the room in some manner isn't fraud unless the hotel in question has strict requirements that say only registered guests are allowed to be in rooms. That sort of scenario wouldn't be in place in a typical US hotel.

That said, I think MSPeconomist's comment regarding trusting a stranger to take care of my hotel room is worth highlighting. To me, it's too much risk.


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