Hotel 50 Bowery NYC (Joie de Vivre) REVIEW- MASTER THREAD
#106
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: NYC
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Hmm, maybe it's like a weekday vs. weekend thing for the "$20 vs. $40" voucher? Otherwise, I thought it would just be contingent on the number of occupants or something, e.g. $20pp and some rooms have two occupants? Idk.
Thanks for sharing the datapoint/review!
Thanks for sharing the datapoint/review!
#107
Join Date: Sep 2020
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$20 isn't so bad for breakfast for one, but at properties that are giving out other breakfast alternatives, e.g. $10 Starbucks cards, $10 doesn't go all that far. It's always good to have the option of a second. At places like 50 Bowery I doubt they get charged for issuing the voucher (only when they're redeemed) so you wouldn't be costing them anything if you get two vouchers and only end up using one.
#108
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: NYC
Posts: 117
These days I'd suggest always putting two people on the reservation at any property where the rate is the same for one as for two.
$20 isn't so bad for breakfast for one, but at properties that are giving out other breakfast alternatives, e.g. $10 Starbucks cards, $10 doesn't go all that far. It's always good to have the option of a second. At places like 50 Bowery I doubt they get charged for issuing the voucher (only when they're redeemed) so you wouldn't be costing them anything if you get two vouchers and only end up using one.
$20 isn't so bad for breakfast for one, but at properties that are giving out other breakfast alternatives, e.g. $10 Starbucks cards, $10 doesn't go all that far. It's always good to have the option of a second. At places like 50 Bowery I doubt they get charged for issuing the voucher (only when they're redeemed) so you wouldn't be costing them anything if you get two vouchers and only end up using one.
#110
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 1,297
Comments to add -
If they gave you $20 instead of $40 for two people reservation, they sure had made a mistake. It happened to my stay because day 1 they gave me 40 then 2nd day they gave me $20, I had to inform the front desk to reissue me with a new one.
Re: Massage -
Renew Day spa is good. They have two locations right across from each other. Groupon if you can get it with 25% off, it will be the same price that they offer for cash or else you can just use cash to book.
The one across the street is newer and fancier looking but staffs do work at both stores. They gave "hard/firm pressure" massage for those who loves it. I went twice during my short stay.
If they gave you $20 instead of $40 for two people reservation, they sure had made a mistake. It happened to my stay because day 1 they gave me 40 then 2nd day they gave me $20, I had to inform the front desk to reissue me with a new one.
Re: Massage -
Renew Day spa is good. They have two locations right across from each other. Groupon if you can get it with 25% off, it will be the same price that they offer for cash or else you can just use cash to book.
The one across the street is newer and fancier looking but staffs do work at both stores. They gave "hard/firm pressure" massage for those who loves it. I went twice during my short stay.
#111
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,957
Found a cool 3D tour of the Kindred Suite (https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=7Z...vFwKZLLWHdFN1k). Currently staying here and service is excellent. Not sure if its worth moving from my city view room to the Kindred Suite when it frees up later in the week since it looks like the room isnt that much bigger and all you really gain is the hallway / seating area.
Jing Fong has changed its menu with more options which is nice too. The Work rooms gained phone holders that have a ring light (I assume for selfie videos / room etc).
Jing Fong has changed its menu with more options which is nice too. The Work rooms gained phone holders that have a ring light (I assume for selfie videos / room etc).
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#112
Join Date: Nov 2016
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Found a cool 3D tour of the Kindred Suite (https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=7Z...vFwKZLLWHdFN1k). Currently staying here and service is excellent. Not sure if its worth moving from my city view room to the Kindred Suite when it frees up later in the week since it looks like the room isnt that much bigger and all you really gain is the hallway / seating area.
Jing Fong has changed its menu with more options which is nice too. The Work rooms gained phone holders that have a ring light (I assume for selfie videos / room etc).
Jing Fong has changed its menu with more options which is nice too. The Work rooms gained phone holders that have a ring light (I assume for selfie videos / room etc).
I think separate seating is nice (because idk about you, but I fall asleep when sitting on the bed lol), so if the City View room already has that (and the Kindred Suite just makes it more separate and pronounced), then seating-wise it's prob not necessary to move.
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#113
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Do the City View rooms have any seating (that's not the desk chair)? The pictures on the JDV and Hyatt websites make it seem like they don't.
I think separate seating is nice (because I fall asleep when sitting on the bed lol), so if the City View room already has that (and the Kindred Suite just makes it more separate and pronounced), then seating-wise it's prob not necessary to move.
I think separate seating is nice (because I fall asleep when sitting on the bed lol), so if the City View room already has that (and the Kindred Suite just makes it more separate and pronounced), then seating-wise it's prob not necessary to move.
#114
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,957
I moved rooms to the Kindred ADA suite and its much nicer. One the third floor so if you are doing the Work From Hyatt the work rooms are on the same floor which is really nice. The view isnt as great as city view, but the suite itself has much more room and is much quieter. A bit strange that front desk said they would upgrade me as a one-time exception even thought upgrade to standard suite is part of Globalist benefits. Not sure why they do stuff like this, but not a big deal.
Hotel overall is getting way busier towards than before. Seems like a lot more young customers and "influencers" are around doing photos shoots and such.
Hotel overall is getting way busier towards than before. Seems like a lot more young customers and "influencers" are around doing photos shoots and such.
#115
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I moved rooms to the Kindred ADA suite and its much nicer. One the third floor so if you are doing the Work From Hyatt the work rooms are on the same floor which is really nice. The view isnt as great as city view, but the suite itself has much more room and is much quieter. A bit strange that front desk said they would upgrade me as a one-time exception even thought upgrade to standard suite is part of Globalist benefits. Not sure why they do stuff like this, but not a big deal.
Hotel overall is getting way busier towards than before. Seems like a lot more young customers and "influencers" are around doing photos shoots and such.
Hotel overall is getting way busier towards than before. Seems like a lot more young customers and "influencers" are around doing photos shoots and such.
#116
Join Date: Mar 2007
Posts: 4,957
Thanks. That makes sense. I guess never hurts to ask. Most of the hotels I have stayed in often tell me to check back with them in a few days if they dont have an upgrade at time of checkin, but good to know its technically by checkin timing.
#117
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Some places are pretty good about letting you upgrade mid stay, particularly if you’re going to be there for awhile. But I’ve also had places that flat out refuse. It also depends on the individual you’re dealing with.
#118
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Just had a 2 night stay last week. Here's my experience as Explorist:
Overall: Wonderful boutique hotel. I enjoyed the second floor shared space - great place to meet up with friends, or go outside without going downstairs.
Location: Located near the corner of Bowery and Canal Street. It's 4-5 blocks from the nearest subway stop. Lots of restaurants nearby, with access to counterfeit handbags, watches, and masks.
Pre-Check-in: The hotel GM sent an email with the information about the hotel, including the destination charge (boo!) and discounts that comes with the charge, outdoor yoga hours, and dining options, as well as recommendation for making a reservation at the Crown, the rooftop bar.
Check-in: Relatively easy. Friendly front desk staff. The front desk also has a small selection of alcoholic and non-alcoholic beverages for purchase. There was an elevator caller in the lobby there on Friday night, presumably to manage access for the rooftop bar.
Room: The size of the room is well organized that it does not feel like a 200 sq ft room like other rooms in Manhattan. There was a greeting card and a half bottle of cabernet waiting in the room - wasn't sure it was due to Hyatt status or the Bowery Insider rate that I used [from booking a reservation at Chikarashi Isso]. There is an umbrella included in the closet, but no iron or ironing board. There is a hair dryer in the bathroom, but no shower gel. I was upgraded to the Manhattan Bridge view room on the 19th floor. There is a side chair in the room, in addition to the desk chair, per the following question:
2 bottles of water were in the fridge, hidden next to the desk. 2 more bottles were delivered the next morning in a plastic bag hanging from the door.
Food & Beverage: As others had pointed out, there is a delivery menu available from nearby restaurants. The Crown is open, although the hotel recommends reservation, and on Fridays and Saturdays there is a $50pp minimum spend, so we skipped it.
The hotel is also the home to Chikarashi Isso, a pop-up yakitori omakase restaurant. Definitely worth every penny. Although, mindful of the fact that you can't charge the restaurant bill to your room, so no extra Hyatt puntos for dining there.
The pastries at the Chinese bakery next door are delightful, and you get 10% off when you mention that you are staying at the hotel (part of the Destination Charge benefit).
Facilities: The Second Floor room is definitely a great asset. Coffee was setup and ready to go at 7:30am, and there is a microwave, plates, and disposable compostable silverware for your take-out. There is a selection of newspaper and magazines as well. According to the TV screen, Chinese newspapers are available upon request.
Overall: Wonderful boutique hotel. I enjoyed the second floor shared space - great place to meet up with friends, or go outside without going downstairs.
Location: Located near the corner of Bowery and Canal Street. It's 4-5 blocks from the nearest subway stop. Lots of restaurants nearby, with access to counterfeit handbags, watches, and masks.
Pre-Check-in: The hotel GM sent an email with the information about the hotel, including the destination charge (boo!) and discounts that comes with the charge, outdoor yoga hours, and dining options, as well as recommendation for making a reservation at the Crown, the rooftop bar.
Check-in: Relatively easy. Friendly front desk staff. The front desk also has a small selection of alcoholic and non-alcoholic beverages for purchase. There was an elevator caller in the lobby there on Friday night, presumably to manage access for the rooftop bar.
Room: The size of the room is well organized that it does not feel like a 200 sq ft room like other rooms in Manhattan. There was a greeting card and a half bottle of cabernet waiting in the room - wasn't sure it was due to Hyatt status or the Bowery Insider rate that I used [from booking a reservation at Chikarashi Isso]. There is an umbrella included in the closet, but no iron or ironing board. There is a hair dryer in the bathroom, but no shower gel. I was upgraded to the Manhattan Bridge view room on the 19th floor. There is a side chair in the room, in addition to the desk chair, per the following question:
Do the City View rooms have any seating (that's not the desk chair)? The pictures on the JDV and Hyatt websites make it seem like they don't.
I think separate seating is nice (because idk about you, but I fall asleep when sitting on the bed lol), so if the City View room already has that (and the Kindred Suite just makes it more separate and pronounced), then seating-wise it's prob not necessary to move.
I think separate seating is nice (because idk about you, but I fall asleep when sitting on the bed lol), so if the City View room already has that (and the Kindred Suite just makes it more separate and pronounced), then seating-wise it's prob not necessary to move.
2 bottles of water were in the fridge, hidden next to the desk. 2 more bottles were delivered the next morning in a plastic bag hanging from the door.
Food & Beverage: As others had pointed out, there is a delivery menu available from nearby restaurants. The Crown is open, although the hotel recommends reservation, and on Fridays and Saturdays there is a $50pp minimum spend, so we skipped it.
The hotel is also the home to Chikarashi Isso, a pop-up yakitori omakase restaurant. Definitely worth every penny. Although, mindful of the fact that you can't charge the restaurant bill to your room, so no extra Hyatt puntos for dining there.
The pastries at the Chinese bakery next door are delightful, and you get 10% off when you mention that you are staying at the hotel (part of the Destination Charge benefit).
Facilities: The Second Floor room is definitely a great asset. Coffee was setup and ready to go at 7:30am, and there is a microwave, plates, and disposable compostable silverware for your take-out. There is a selection of newspaper and magazines as well. According to the TV screen, Chinese newspapers are available upon request.
#119
Join Date: Nov 2016
Programs: Nectar Card
Posts: 1,092
It looks like they charge a premium for a city view room (not uncommon of course); does anyone have an opinion on whether the property's city view side(s) is(are) very different (or "worth it") as compared to the non-city view side(s)? Cheers.
#120
See my post #92 for the difference in views. Picture 1 is from the city view side. Picture 2 is not. I don’t know the rate difference for your dates or how much your care about views, but my personal opinion is that the view of midtown is very cool but probably not worth more than an extra $20 or so. If you want the midtown photo for the ‘gram, you can head up to The Crown for a drink and snap it there. Or, if you have status (I can’t see your details on my mobile), you’re VERY likely to get the city view as an upgrade.