Complimentary Match to M-Life NOIR!
#196
#197
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Live: PWM/KBXM/BGR; Work: DCA/DFW/Everywhere; Play: LAS/AUA/MIA/MLE
Programs: AA EXP, DL PM, Hyatt Glob, Marriott Ambassador/LTP, Nat'l Exec Elite, mlife Noir, LEYE Gold
Posts: 6,036
It has also been my experience that each property will their own comp system for you, and even within the same MGM family, I don't think they share the information with one another. For instance, I can get virtually anything at the Bellagio, but they'll look at me twice when I take too much bottled water from the MBay VIP lounge.
The Noir status remains very useful -- frankly the best perks at National Harbor are the close-in parking, the line-cutting at the cashier windows, and the trump-card access to primo dining tables. It definitely seems like there are way fewer Noirs now than previously.
#198
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Los Angeles
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 3,696
So I had a 3-night stay at the MGM National Harbor last week, booked as a comp via MGM Rewards. A couple days before arrival, I called my new host, who has been very friendly and professional, and he offered to arrange the limo, cover my food, and so forth. He proactively added a F&B credit and said he'd evaluate the rest based on play. I ended up playing about 7 hours of blackjack at $250/hand average; he ended up comping about $1000 in food and beverage. When I was checking out, I called him and he met me for coffee; I gave him a thank you card with a small gift and asked if he had a chance to look at my play, and he said yes and that I was doing fine. (He confirmed that it was irrelevant that I had ended up winning a bit; he cared about my theo.) More importantly, he offered to make all the arrangements for me when I next go to Vegas (probably in a few weeks), which is great at Bellagio -- will ask to have lounge access, etc. I asked about how my play at other casinos was factored in and he confirmed that everything is separate in terms of theo, but if I have a substantial actual loss at a different property, then he can use that to justify greater comps for my next trip to National Harbor. All interesting info.
The Noir status remains very useful -- frankly the best perks at National Harbor are the close-in parking, the line-cutting at the cashier windows, and the trump-card access to primo dining tables. It definitely seems like there are way fewer Noirs now than previously.
The Noir status remains very useful -- frankly the best perks at National Harbor are the close-in parking, the line-cutting at the cashier windows, and the trump-card access to primo dining tables. It definitely seems like there are way fewer Noirs now than previously.
Heres what Ive been told my hosts at Bellagio and MGM Grand as a Platinum -
- For Good/Great Comps they want you to play at least 4-6 hours a day
- Comps Based on Losses go like this they take your losses, cover the acquisition cost of getting you there (Hotel, F&B Credits, Free Play etc) then they will comp off up to 20% of your losses after covering those.
- Comps Based on play/theo is above.
- Once you have a host your mail/e-mail offers get automatically better
#199
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Live: PWM/KBXM/BGR; Work: DCA/DFW/Everywhere; Play: LAS/AUA/MIA/MLE
Programs: AA EXP, DL PM, Hyatt Glob, Marriott Ambassador/LTP, Nat'l Exec Elite, mlife Noir, LEYE Gold
Posts: 6,036
As you're probably aware, status is irrelevant to the play-based comps. As for hours per day, the game played and your average bet are equally essential components in determining theo. 7 hours at $250, all else equal, equals 17.5 hours at $100.
#200
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Los Angeles
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 3,696
As a Platinum Ive gotten double or triple the amount of free play and F&B credits offered, yet playing the same amounts as I was at Gold.
Also, as your levels gets higher you get Bonus Multipliers IIRC to earn more points and comps.
If youre strictly referring to discretionary comps then sure.
As for play amounts and hours I was simply providing information I was provided from hosts at what they expect to see.
#201
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: DCA/IAD/SFO/SJC/JFK/NRT/LHR/BOS/etc
Programs: AA (EXP, 3 MM), Hyatt Globalist, Taj InnerCircle Silver, MLife Noir, former LHW-Aurelian
Posts: 339
#202
Moderator: Hyatt Gold Passport & Star Alliance
Join Date: May 1998
Location: London, UK
Programs: UA-1K 3MM/HY- LT Globalist/BA-CCR/GGL/GfL
Posts: 11,540
Seems that Hyatt are offering Noir again to selected customers. Email received today indicating that it extends to 31 Jan 2023.
#203
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Nashville -Past DL Plat, FO, WN-CP, various hotel programs
Programs: DL-MM, AA, SW w/companion,HiltonDiamond, Hyatt PLat, IHF Plat, Miles and Points Seeker
Posts: 10,724
Very interesting insight -
Heres what Ive been told my hosts at Bellagio and MGM Grand as a Platinum -
- For Good/Great Comps they want you to play at least 4-6 hours a day
- Comps Based on Losses go like this they take your losses, cover the acquisition cost of getting you there (Hotel, F&B Credits, Free Play etc) then they will comp off up to 20% of your losses after covering those.
- Comps Based on play/theo is above.
- Once you have a host your mail/e-mail offers get automatically better
Heres what Ive been told my hosts at Bellagio and MGM Grand as a Platinum -
- For Good/Great Comps they want you to play at least 4-6 hours a day
- Comps Based on Losses go like this they take your losses, cover the acquisition cost of getting you there (Hotel, F&B Credits, Free Play etc) then they will comp off up to 20% of your losses after covering those.
- Comps Based on play/theo is above.
- Once you have a host your mail/e-mail offers get automatically better
#204
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Nashville -Past DL Plat, FO, WN-CP, various hotel programs
Programs: DL-MM, AA, SW w/companion,HiltonDiamond, Hyatt PLat, IHF Plat, Miles and Points Seeker
Posts: 10,724
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#205
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Los Angeles
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 3,696
As a degenerate gambler, having a host helps a little, but PLAY is what gets better offers. It is also controlled by a backroom Wizard with a big wheel. Well, not exactly. Average play is what generates offers. Period. There are people with Gold at MGM that get suite offers, $450 freeplay, $450 food credit and maybe limo. There are also Platinum that barely get a standard room and MAYBE some food. It is all based on PLAY. There are a few benefits for Plat and Noir you get even with minimal play, but not much.
#206
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: SFO/LAX/SAN/LAS/DFW/JFK/LGA/EWR/MIA
Posts: 1,054
So I had a 3-night stay at the MGM National Harbor last week, booked as a comp via MGM Rewards. A couple days before arrival, I called my new host, who has been very friendly and professional, and he offered to arrange the limo, cover my food, and so forth. He proactively added a F&B credit and said he'd evaluate the rest based on play. I ended up playing about 7 hours of blackjack at $250/hand average; he ended up comping about $1000 in food and beverage. When I was checking out, I called him and he met me for coffee; I gave him a thank you card with a small gift and asked if he had a chance to look at my play, and he said yes and that I was doing fine. (He confirmed that it was irrelevant that I had ended up winning a bit; he cared about my theo.) More importantly, he offered to make all the arrangements for me when I next go to Vegas (probably in a few weeks), which is great at Bellagio -- will ask to have lounge access, etc. I asked about how my play at other casinos was factored in and he confirmed that everything is separate in terms of theo, but if I have a substantial actual loss at a different property, then he can use that to justify greater comps for my next trip to National Harbor. All interesting info.
The Noir status remains very useful -- frankly the best perks at National Harbor are the close-in parking, the line-cutting at the cashier windows, and the trump-card access to primo dining tables. It definitely seems like there are way fewer Noirs now than previously.
The Noir status remains very useful -- frankly the best perks at National Harbor are the close-in parking, the line-cutting at the cashier windows, and the trump-card access to primo dining tables. It definitely seems like there are way fewer Noirs now than previously.
#207
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: SFO/LAX/SAN/LAS/DFW/JFK/LGA/EWR/MIA
Posts: 1,054
#208
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Live: PWM/KBXM/BGR; Work: DCA/DFW/Everywhere; Play: LAS/AUA/MIA/MLE
Programs: AA EXP, DL PM, Hyatt Glob, Marriott Ambassador/LTP, Nat'l Exec Elite, mlife Noir, LEYE Gold
Posts: 6,036
this is interesting. it looks like MGM is actively trimming. not surprised, but i wonder whats the criteria/goal. maybe some OG hyatt noirs from many years back will also be cut. many kept noir all these years without ever stepping foot in MGM. we should share some DPs of status for those who kept their status.
#209
Join Date: May 2005
Location: TUS
Programs: AA Ex Plat, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, IHG Platinum, Marriott Gold
Posts: 456
#210
formerly a193991
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Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Zulu Romeo Hotel
Programs: Hyatt LT Globalist; LX SEN (*A Gold), AA LTG
Posts: 4,051
I was comped noir and had 1 stay in November 2019. haven't stayed in LAS since (also could not due to COVID). so that may be a reason I was dropped from this elite group of people.