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Old Mar 25, 22, 6:16 pm
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Originally Posted by hp12c View Post
Same here. Bummer.

I re-linked my accounts and instantly was put back to Gold.
bummer, I dropped as well to Sapphire.
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Old Apr 25, 22, 5:55 pm
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Originally Posted by Visconti View Post
It has also been my experience that each property will their own comp system for you, and even within the same MGM family, I don't think they share the information with one another. For instance, I can get virtually anything at the Bellagio, but they'll look at me twice when I take too much bottled water from the MBay VIP lounge.
So I had a 3-night stay at the MGM National Harbor last week, booked as a comp via MGM Rewards. A couple days before arrival, I called my new host, who has been very friendly and professional, and he offered to arrange the limo, cover my food, and so forth. He proactively added a F&B credit and said he'd evaluate the rest based on play. I ended up playing about 7 hours of blackjack at $250/hand average; he ended up comping about $1000 in food and beverage. When I was checking out, I called him and he met me for coffee; I gave him a thank you card with a small gift and asked if he had a chance to look at my play, and he said yes and that I was doing fine. (He confirmed that it was irrelevant that I had ended up winning a bit; he cared about my theo.) More importantly, he offered to make all the arrangements for me when I next go to Vegas (probably in a few weeks), which is great at Bellagio -- will ask to have lounge access, etc. I asked about how my play at other casinos was factored in and he confirmed that everything is separate in terms of theo, but if I have a substantial actual loss at a different property, then he can use that to justify greater comps for my next trip to National Harbor. All interesting info.

The Noir status remains very useful -- frankly the best perks at National Harbor are the close-in parking, the line-cutting at the cashier windows, and the trump-card access to primo dining tables. It definitely seems like there are way fewer Noirs now than previously.
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Old Apr 25, 22, 6:10 pm
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Originally Posted by platbrownguy View Post
So I had a 3-night stay at the MGM National Harbor last week, booked as a comp via MGM Rewards. A couple days before arrival, I called my new host, who has been very friendly and professional, and he offered to arrange the limo, cover my food, and so forth. He proactively added a F&B credit and said he'd evaluate the rest based on play. I ended up playing about 7 hours of blackjack at $250/hand average; he ended up comping about $1000 in food and beverage. When I was checking out, I called him and he met me for coffee; I gave him a thank you card with a small gift and asked if he had a chance to look at my play, and he said yes and that I was doing fine. (He confirmed that it was irrelevant that I had ended up winning a bit; he cared about my theo.) More importantly, he offered to make all the arrangements for me when I next go to Vegas (probably in a few weeks), which is great at Bellagio -- will ask to have lounge access, etc. I asked about how my play at other casinos was factored in and he confirmed that everything is separate in terms of theo, but if I have a substantial actual loss at a different property, then he can use that to justify greater comps for my next trip to National Harbor. All interesting info.

The Noir status remains very useful -- frankly the best perks at National Harbor are the close-in parking, the line-cutting at the cashier windows, and the trump-card access to primo dining tables. It definitely seems like there are way fewer Noirs now than previously.
Very interesting insight -

Heres what Ive been told my hosts at Bellagio and MGM Grand as a Platinum -

- For Good/Great Comps they want you to play at least 4-6 hours a day

- Comps Based on Losses go like this they take your losses, cover the acquisition cost of getting you there (Hotel, F&B Credits, Free Play etc) then they will comp off up to 20% of your losses after covering those.

- Comps Based on play/theo is above.

- Once you have a host your mail/e-mail offers get automatically better
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Old Apr 25, 22, 9:51 pm
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Originally Posted by Matt4200 View Post
Heres what Ive been told my hosts at Bellagio and MGM Grand as a Platinum -

- For Good/Great Comps they want you to play at least 4-6 hours a day
As you're probably aware, status is irrelevant to the play-based comps. As for hours per day, the game played and your average bet are equally essential components in determining theo. 7 hours at $250, all else equal, equals 17.5 hours at $100.
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Old Apr 25, 22, 10:10 pm
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Originally Posted by platbrownguy View Post
As you're probably aware, status is irrelevant to the play-based comps. As for hours per day, the game played and your average bet are equally essential components in determining theo. 7 hours at $250, all else equal, equals 17.5 hours at $100.
Status actually isnt irrelevant to play based comps.

As a Platinum Ive gotten double or triple the amount of free play and F&B credits offered, yet playing the same amounts as I was at Gold.

Also, as your levels gets higher you get Bonus Multipliers IIRC to earn more points and comps.

If youre strictly referring to discretionary comps then sure.

As for play amounts and hours I was simply providing information I was provided from hosts at what they expect to see.
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Old May 12, 22, 10:27 am
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Originally Posted by hp12c View Post
Same here. Bummer.

I re-linked my accounts and instantly was put back to Gold.
Same with me.. Do have a Noir card with my name on it that has a 2023 expiration date-- hoping that I'll be able to use that a little bit, at least?
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Old Jun 7, 22, 8:19 pm
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Seems that Hyatt are offering Noir again to selected customers. Email received today indicating that it extends to 31 Jan 2023.
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Old Jun 8, 22, 5:44 pm
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Originally Posted by Matt4200 View Post
Very interesting insight -

Heres what Ive been told my hosts at Bellagio and MGM Grand as a Platinum -

- For Good/Great Comps they want you to play at least 4-6 hours a day

- Comps Based on Losses go like this they take your losses, cover the acquisition cost of getting you there (Hotel, F&B Credits, Free Play etc) then they will comp off up to 20% of your losses after covering those.

- Comps Based on play/theo is above.

- Once you have a host your mail/e-mail offers get automatically better
As a degenerate gambler, having a host helps a little, but PLAY is what gets better offers. It is also controlled by a backroom Wizard with a big wheel. Well, not exactly. Average play is what generates offers. Period. There are people with Gold at MGM that get suite offers, $450 freeplay, $450 food credit and maybe limo. There are also Platinum that barely get a standard room and MAYBE some food. It is all based on PLAY. There are a few benefits for Plat and Noir you get even with minimal play, but not much.
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Old Jun 8, 22, 5:44 pm
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Old Jun 8, 22, 5:48 pm
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Originally Posted by NoStressHere View Post
As a degenerate gambler, having a host helps a little, but PLAY is what gets better offers. It is also controlled by a backroom Wizard with a big wheel. Well, not exactly. Average play is what generates offers. Period. There are people with Gold at MGM that get suite offers, $450 freeplay, $450 food credit and maybe limo. There are also Platinum that barely get a standard room and MAYBE some food. It is all based on PLAY. There are a few benefits for Plat and Noir you get even with minimal play, but not much.
How would you get Plat with no play?
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Old Aug 1, 22, 2:22 pm
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Originally Posted by platbrownguy View Post
So I had a 3-night stay at the MGM National Harbor last week, booked as a comp via MGM Rewards. A couple days before arrival, I called my new host, who has been very friendly and professional, and he offered to arrange the limo, cover my food, and so forth. He proactively added a F&B credit and said he'd evaluate the rest based on play. I ended up playing about 7 hours of blackjack at $250/hand average; he ended up comping about $1000 in food and beverage. When I was checking out, I called him and he met me for coffee; I gave him a thank you card with a small gift and asked if he had a chance to look at my play, and he said yes and that I was doing fine. (He confirmed that it was irrelevant that I had ended up winning a bit; he cared about my theo.) More importantly, he offered to make all the arrangements for me when I next go to Vegas (probably in a few weeks), which is great at Bellagio -- will ask to have lounge access, etc. I asked about how my play at other casinos was factored in and he confirmed that everything is separate in terms of theo, but if I have a substantial actual loss at a different property, then he can use that to justify greater comps for my next trip to National Harbor. All interesting info.

The Noir status remains very useful -- frankly the best perks at National Harbor are the close-in parking, the line-cutting at the cashier windows, and the trump-card access to primo dining tables. It definitely seems like there are way fewer Noirs now than previously.
curious if you had discussions around hyatt noir vs casino noir w/ the host. are hyatt noirs identified / treated differently in their view? i know everything always comes down to theo, but i would like to know how hosts view this or if aware of this partnership.
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Old Aug 1, 22, 5:45 pm
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Originally Posted by EWRFlyerAL View Post
My Noir status from Hyatt has also maintained. I thought it would have been over in 2021. Happy to see it as I have two trips to Vegas in April.
Originally Posted by jlampert View Post
For what it’s worth, I still had Noir a few days ago but logged in today and I’ve dropped to Sapphire. Looks like I missed out on being able to take advantage and may even have to re link my WoH account to get back to Gold.
Originally Posted by hp12c View Post
Same here. Bummer.
I re-linked my accounts and instantly was put back to Gold.
Originally Posted by 59Impala View Post
bummer, I dropped as well to Sapphire.
this is interesting. it looks like MGM is actively trimming. not surprised, but i wonder whats the criteria/goal. maybe some OG hyatt noirs from many years back will also be cut. many kept noir all these years without ever stepping foot in MGM. we should share some DPs of status for those who kept their status.
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Old Aug 1, 22, 6:11 pm
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Originally Posted by GundamWing01 View Post
curious if you had discussions around hyatt noir vs casino noir w/ the host. are hyatt noirs identified / treated differently in their view? i know everything always comes down to theo, but i would like to know how hosts view this or if aware of this partnership.
I don't think any of my hosts have been aware of the Hyatt partnership.

Originally Posted by GundamWing01 View Post
this is interesting. it looks like MGM is actively trimming. not surprised, but i wonder whats the criteria/goal. maybe some OG hyatt noirs from many years back will also be cut. many kept noir all these years without ever stepping foot in MGM. we should share some DPs of status for those who kept their status.
They definitely trimmed, but it sounds like they rolled out the promo again and gave Noir to some more globs.
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Old Aug 1, 22, 9:42 pm
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Originally Posted by GundamWing01 View Post
we should share some DPs of status for those who kept their status.
Still Noir as of this evening, was matched back in the pre-COVID times. I have averaged 2-3 trips a year since with low level gambling.
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Old Aug 2, 22, 12:23 am
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Originally Posted by dpb132 View Post
Still Noir as of this evening, was matched back in the pre-COVID times. I have averaged 2-3 trips a year since with low level gambling.
I was comped noir and had 1 stay in November 2019. haven't stayed in LAS since (also could not due to COVID). so that may be a reason I was dropped from this elite group of people.
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