Milestone Rewards
Dec 18, 2018, 1:05 pm
#17
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Madison, WI
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Honestly, this actually feels like a way to drive business to Hyatt incrementally. I'm sitting at 9 brands, so now I'm going to actively look for a "Hyatt" (since I'm not going to get Ziva/Zilara/Miraval before next year).
Dec 18, 2018, 1:12 pm
#18
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Dec 18, 2018, 1:15 pm
#20
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I will be surprised if this isn’t primarily another part and parcel to devaluing the Hyatt loyalty program for Hyatt loyalty program customers in the aggregate.
I also wouldn’t be surprised if this is a way to stage the landscape before handing out a lot more elite status account upgrades without providing such upgraded account customers much in the way of award instruments for use.
I also wouldn’t be surprised if this is a way to stage the landscape before handing out a lot more elite status account upgrades without providing such upgraded account customers much in the way of award instruments for use.
Last edited by GUWonder; Dec 18, 2018 at 1:23 pm
Dec 18, 2018, 2:20 pm
#21
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Victoria, B.C.
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, AA Gold LT
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Myself, I am not happy about this change. 60 nights is a lot of nights in Hyatts.
Dec 18, 2018, 2:20 pm
#22
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: Sacramento, CA
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It looks that way now, but the Lifetime Glob page, https://world.hyatt.com/content/gp/e...globalist.html, hasn't been updated to reflect these new "milestone" based awards.
Dec 18, 2018, 2:23 pm
#23
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: PHL
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, AA Gold, FB Gold, ITA Volare Executive
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In answer to your second question, any existing Globalist as at Dec, 31 2018.
It would be better written as "as of 1/1/19, any newly qualifying Globalist" will need 60 night the subsequent year to re-qualify for globalist.
So, any who qualify for Globalist this year will need 55 nights to requalify in 2019, but 60 nights in 2020,
It would be better written as "as of 1/1/19, any newly qualifying Globalist" will need 60 night the subsequent year to re-qualify for globalist.
So, any who qualify for Globalist this year will need 55 nights to requalify in 2019, but 60 nights in 2020,
Dec 18, 2018, 2:25 pm
#24
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Houston
Programs: United 1K, Marriott Lifetime Platinum; Hyatt Diamond/GLOB
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For Globalists, I'm not seeing much downside (nor upside to this), other than needing 60 instead of 55 nights to re-qualify.
I guess there will be slightly more competition for suite upgrades since at least a few people in the 59 night range will have CPU to use.
We are all cynical about any change to a loyalty program because experience suggests that almost all changes devalue the program to some extent, but on the face of this, it seems to slightly help folks at the lower tiers a bit and doesn't have a significant negative effect on the upper tier.
I guess there will be slightly more competition for suite upgrades since at least a few people in the 59 night range will have CPU to use.
We are all cynical about any change to a loyalty program because experience suggests that almost all changes devalue the program to some extent, but on the face of this, it seems to slightly help folks at the lower tiers a bit and doesn't have a significant negative effect on the upper tier.
Dec 18, 2018, 3:04 pm
#25
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Dec 18, 2018, 3:11 pm
#26
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My thoughts are that Hyatt mostly missed the boat. Due to Marriott's recent screw-ups, the start of 2019 is a huge opportunity to grab some business away from Marriott. E.g. Hyatt could have announced "Look up your existing Marriot level on this SIMPLE chart, and instantly know what we will do for you in 2019 if you switch to Hyatt". But then again, Hyatt would be hard-pressed to convince folks that their I.T. Security is world class. i think Hyatt hasn't been hit by hackers (yet) because hackers prefer bigger targets.
Going back to this promotion, the small extra perk at 40 nights is nice. I'd choose $100 gift card instead of 5000 points.
Going back to this promotion, the small extra perk at 40 nights is nice. I'd choose $100 gift card instead of 5000 points.
Dec 18, 2018, 3:20 pm
#27
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My thoughts are that Hyatt mostly missed the boat. Due to Marriott's recent screw-ups, the start of 2019 is a huge opportunity to grab some business away from Marriott. E.g. Hyatt could have announced "Look up your existing Marriot level on this SIMPLE chart, and instantly know what we will do for you in 2019 if you switch to Hyatt". But then again, Hyatt would be hard-pressed to convince folks that their I.T. Security is world class. i think Hyatt hasn't been hit by hackers (yet) because hackers prefer bigger targets.
Going back to this promotion, the small extra perk at 40 nights is nice. I'd choose $100 gift card instead of 5000 points.
Going back to this promotion, the small extra perk at 40 nights is nice. I'd choose $100 gift card instead of 5000 points.
Dec 18, 2018, 3:40 pm
#28
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Website states "activity starting Jan 1, 2019, will count toward earning Milestone Rewards". Do stays starting at end of year and ending in Jan (eg. Dec 29 to Jan 1) count towards 2019 Milestone Rewards?
The new T&C isn't clear. That's the way it was previously, right?
ETA: Nevermind. The new T&C don't apply until March 1, 2019. So, nights spanning the new year should count towards 2019 Milestone Rewards.
The new T&C isn't clear. That's the way it was previously, right?
ETA: Nevermind. The new T&C don't apply until March 1, 2019. So, nights spanning the new year should count towards 2019 Milestone Rewards.
Last edited by Troopers; Dec 18, 2018 at 3:49 pm
Dec 18, 2018, 3:58 pm
#30
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Milestone rewards are a sort of watered-down version of what used to be Platinum Extra awards, except that there are a few different option than before.
Why does Hyatt even have a Discoverist level? Just to make Hyatt credit card holders to feel valued despite not being given much of anything material because of that status? I would welcome the elimination of Discoverist status and a renaming of Explorist into Platinum and Globalist into Diamond.
Last edited by GUWonder; Dec 18, 2018 at 4:03 pm