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World of Hyatt Visa Credit Card

Earn up to 50,000 Bonus Points

Here's how it works:
  • Earn 25,000 Bonus Points after you spend $3,000 on purchases within the first 3 months of account opening.
  • Earn an additional 25,000 Bonus Points after you spend $6,000 in total purchases [$3k+$3k] within the first 6 months of account opening.
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[Was 60,000 total; ended Jan 9, 2019]

40,000 Bonus Points - after you spend $3,000 on purchases within the first 3 months of account opening.
Plus, earn an additional 20,000 Bonus Points after you spend $6,000 total on purchases within the first 6 months of account opening.
  • Receive one free night at any Category 1-4 Hyatt hotel or resort every year on your cardmember anniversary.
  • No foreign transaction fees
  • $95 annual fee

Spending Tracker
The spending tracker is useful for seeing how close you are to the $15k free night threshold, or the next $5k threshold for 2 qual nights.
  • Chase mobile app: "View all transactions", then switch to the "Spending Summary" tab
  • Chase web page: From the account page, in the "Things you can do" menu, choose "Spending Summary"
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Old Mar 13, 19, 10:52 am
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Some people now arenít getting the anniversary night for a month or two after the AF posts, likely for the reason discussed above.
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Old Mar 13, 19, 3:06 pm
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Originally Posted by joe_miami View Post
Some people now arenít getting the anniversary night for a month or two after the AF posts, likely for the reason discussed above.
Our FN has not been posted two months after anniversary date. I recall Ritz Carlton and Marriott Business cards post FNs quickly. But AmEx SPG cards have a long delay. I they the CCs play the game, so you can't keep the FN, call back to close the accounts and get AFs refunded.
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Old Mar 13, 19, 3:22 pm
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Only surprise is that it took banks this long to catch on. The anniversary night was never supposed to be a reward for making it to the 12-month mark.
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Old Mar 13, 19, 3:50 pm
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Originally Posted by joe_miami View Post
Only surprise is that it took banks this long to catch on. The anniversary night was never supposed to be a reward for making it to the 12-month mark.
Well, so many people churn the hotel cards. So CCs have to find some way to stop it. Sort of. Little impact if you plan to keep the cards. I prefer points though. Like the Radisson CC.
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Old Mar 13, 19, 4:36 pm
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Well, so many people churn the hotel cards. So CCs have to find some way to stop it. Sort of. Little impact if you plan to keep the cards. I prefer points though. Like the Radisson CC.
I agree with this. Free night certs suck, especially when restricted to low-end hotels. It seems like they are just punishing their best customers. They should just give a choice between a free night cert or 12k pts. 12k is the cat 3 price -- dropping one level below the max category seems like a fair tradeoff for the flexibility of no expiration and combinability with more pts for a higher end hotel.

Even if they offered 10k I'd probably take the pts.
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Old Mar 13, 19, 5:11 pm
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Originally Posted by VegasGambler View Post
I agree with this. Free night certs suck, especially when restricted to low-end hotels. It seems like they are just punishing their best customers. They should just give a choice between a free night cert or 12k pts. 12k is the cat 3 price -- dropping one level below the max category seems like a fair tradeoff for the flexibility of no expiration and combinability with more pts for a higher end hotel.

Even if they offered 10k I'd probably take the pts.
Cat 4 Hyatts aren't "low end."
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Old Mar 13, 19, 6:16 pm
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Originally Posted by joe_miami View Post
Cat 4 Hyatts aren't "low end."
Mid end? It really depends where you are. In less expensive places there are great cat 4s, but in many urban areas there are either none, or they are low end (because the mid ends are all cat 5+... eg the GH NY. The poster child for mid end hotels, but location makes it cat 6) To find a cat 1-4 hotel you need to go to the the HP in long island city, which is just not where I want to spend a vacation. If there was a cat 4 in midtown manhattan I shudder to think what it would be like.

Actually I like the Andaz San Deigo and Manchester GH San Diego a lot, so once these move to Cat 4 I'll have some much better options to use these things. But depending on your travel patterns, they can be very hard to use.

Imagine that someone has a lot of money and spends a weekend in NY once a month or so. They stay at the PH NY. They qualify for globalist off points some time early in the year. Maybe they take a few international trips, and stay at the PH Syndey or the GH or PH Tokyo. Maybe the PH Maldives once in a while. This qualifies as a "good customer". Certainly a high margin customer.

You are going to toss them Cat 1-4 certs? That's just insulting. At least give them 10k pts instead so they can use it towards a free night somewhere that they actually want to stay.
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Old Mar 13, 19, 6:25 pm
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Well, hotels are also driven by demand, not the quality of the hotel itself. Properties in big metro areas and resort places command premium over hotels in remote and low demand areas. So all the low, mid etc are relative.
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Old Mar 13, 19, 6:35 pm
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Originally Posted by VegasGambler View Post
Mid end? It really depends where you are. In less expensive places there are great cat 4s, but in many urban areas there are either none, or they are low end (because the mid ends are all cat 5+... eg the GH NY. The poster child for mid end hotels, but location makes it cat 6) To find a cat 1-4 hotel you need to go to the the HP in long island city, which is just not where I want to spend a vacation. If there was a cat 4 in midtown manhattan I shudder to think what it would be like.

Actually I like the Andaz San Deigo and Manchester GH San Diego a lot, so once these move to Cat 4 I'll have some much better options to use these things. But depending on your travel patterns, they can be very hard to use.

Imagine that someone has a lot of money and spends a weekend in NY once a month or so. They stay at the PH NY. They qualify for globalist off points some time early in the year. Maybe they take a few international trips, and stay at the PH Syndey or the GH or PH Tokyo. Maybe the PH Maldives once in a while. This qualifies as a "good customer". Certainly a high margin customer.

You are going to toss them Cat 1-4 certs? That's just insulting. At least give them 10k pts instead so they can use it towards a free night somewhere that they actually want to stay.
People who "qualify for Globalist off points some time early in the year" aren't worried about this in the slightest. Let's be serious here. No rewards scheme is going to make everyone happy, but Hyatt has a lot more customers for whom a Cat 1-4 award is a nice incentive/reward than customers who simply won't lower themselves to staying at a Cat 1-4 within any given 6-month period.
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Old Mar 13, 19, 7:40 pm
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Originally Posted by joe_miami View Post
People who "qualify for Globalist off points some time early in the year" aren't worried about this in the slightest. Let's be serious here. No rewards scheme is going to make everyone happy, but Hyatt has a lot more customers for whom a Cat 1-4 award is a nice incentive/reward than customers who simply won't lower themselves to staying at a Cat 1-4 within any given 6-month period.
It's not like offering a choice of pts or cert would cost Hyatt much. And, again, depending on your travel patterns, there might just not be reasonable cat 1-4 options. This is especially true in major, expensive cities (where a lot of people do most of their traveling to). Location is important here. Even very average hotels in good locations tend to be higher category.
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Old Mar 13, 19, 7:52 pm
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Originally Posted by VegasGambler View Post
It's not like offering a choice of pts or cert would cost Hyatt much. ...
It would likely cost Hyatt a lot, because people who choose the points a couple times so they can stay at a Cat 5+ are going to cost Hyatt a much bigger reimbursement than the average cost of the Cat 1-4 redemptions.
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Old Mar 13, 19, 8:02 pm
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This is what I received from Chase serve rep:

Thank you for contacting Chase. The anniversary night for the World of Hyatt credit card will be issued 10 weeks from 01/17, the anniversary date of the credit card. This would put you at receiving your anniversary night 03/28.

Nights are eligible for redemption for one year from the date it is deposited into your World of Hyatt member account. Please be aware that nights cannot be extended or reissued after their expiration.

It is absurd to take 10 weeks to post....
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Old Mar 14, 19, 9:23 am
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Originally Posted by joe_miami View Post
It would likely cost Hyatt a lot, because people who choose the points a couple times so they can stay at a Cat 5+ are going to cost Hyatt a much bigger reimbursement than the average cost of the Cat 1-4 redemptions.
You think that a cat 5 redemption costs them more than two cat 4 redemptions? If so, their pricing scheme doesn't make much sense (15k vs 20k)
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Old Mar 14, 19, 1:02 pm
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Originally Posted by VegasGambler View Post
You think that a cat 5 redemption costs them more than two cat 4 redemptions? If so, their pricing scheme doesn't make much sense (15k vs 20k)
Thatís not at all what I said, and if youíre really a gambler, one hopes you know that.
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Old Mar 14, 19, 8:17 pm
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Then I have no idea what your point is. If a cat 5 redemption is worth less than 2 cat 4's then 10k pts should not cost them more than a cat 5 cert, unless they get a lot of value from people just letting the certs expire.
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