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Current Participating Hyatt Privé Properties as of February 9th, 2021:

Alila

Alila Bangsar Kuala Lumpur
Alila Diwa Goa - $100 USD Credit
Diwa Club by Alila - $100 USD Credit
Alila Fort Bishangarh - $100 USD Credit
Alila Hinu Bay - $100 USD Credit
Alila Jabal Akhdar - $100 USD Credit
Alila Manggis - $75 USD Credit
Alila Marea Beach Resort Encinitas - $100 USD Credit
Alila Napa Valley - $100 USD Credit
Alila SCBD Jakarta
Alila Seminyak - $100 USD Credit
Alila Solo
Alila Ubud - $100 USD Credit
Alila Villas Uluwatu - $100 USD Credit
Alila Wuzhen - $100 USD Credit
Ventana Big Sur - $100 USD Credit

Andaz

Andaz 5th Avenue - $100 USD Credit
Andaz Amsterdam - $100 USD Credit
Andaz Bali - $100 USD Credit
Andaz Capital Gate, Abu Dhabi - $50 USD Credit
Andaz Costa Rica Resort at Peninsula Papagayo - $100 USD Credit
Andaz Delhi - $100 USD Credit
Andaz Dubai The Palm - $50 USD Credit
Andaz Gangnam Seoul - $100 USD Credit
Andaz London - $100 USD Credit
Andaz Maui at Wailea - $100 USD Credit
Andaz Mayakoba Resort Riviera Maya - $100 USD Credit
Andaz Munich Schwabinger Tor - $100 USD Credit
Andaz Napa - $50 USD Credit
Andaz Prague - $100 USD Credit
Andaz Ottawa - $75 USD Credit
Andaz San Diego - $75 USD Credit
Andaz Savannah - $100 USD Credit
Andaz Scottsdale - $100 USD Credit
Andaz Shenzhen Bay - $50 USD Credit
Andaz Singapore - $100 USD Credit
Andaz Tokyo Toranomon Hills - $100 USD Credit
Andaz Vienna Am Belvedere - $75 USD Credit
Andaz West Hollywood - $100 USD Credit
Andaz Xiamen - $75 USD Credit
Andaz Xintiandi, Shanghai - $50 USD Credit

Destination Hotels

Carolina Inn - $100 USD Credit
Hana-Maui Resort - $50 USD Credit
Motif Seattle - $100 USD Credit
Resort at Squaw Creek - $100 USD Credit
The Lodge at Spruce Peak - $100 USD Credit
The Seabird - $100 USD Credit
The Shay - $50 USD Credit
Wild Dunes Resort - $100 USD Credit
7Pines Resort Ibiza - $100 USD Credit

Destination Residences

The Lodge at Kukui’ula - $100 USD Credit
Vail Residences at Cascade Village - $100 USD Credit
Wailea Beach Villas - $100 USD Gift Card

Grand Hyatt

Grand Hyatt Al Khobar Hotel & Residences - $100 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Abu Dhabi Hotel & Residences Emirates Pearl - $100 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Al Khobar Hotel & Residences - $
Grand Hyatt Amman - $50 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Athens - $100 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Atlanta in Buckhead - $100 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Baha Mar -$100 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Bali - $100 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Beijing - $100 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Berlin - $100 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Bogota - $50 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Changsha - $100 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Chengdu - $50 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Denver - $100 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Doha Hotel & Villas - $100 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Dubai - $100 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Erawan Bangkok - $100 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Goa - $100 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Hong Kong - $100 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Jakarta - $100 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Kauai Resort and Spa - $100 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Kochi Bolgatty - $50 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Kuala Lumpur - $50 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Macau - $50 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Manila - USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Melbourne - $100 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Mumbai - $50 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Muscat - $100 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Nashville - $100 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Playa del Carmen - $100 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Rio de Janeiro - $100 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt San Antonio - $50 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt San Francisco - $50 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Sao Paulo - $100 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Seattle -$100 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Seoul - $100 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Shanghai - $100 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Singapore - $100 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Taipei - $100 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Tampa Bay - $100 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Tokyo - $100 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Vail - $100 USD Credit
Grand Hyatt Washington - $100 USD Credit
Manchester Grand Hyatt San Diego - $100 USD Credit

Hyatt Centric

Hyatt Centric 39th & 5th New York - $25 USD Credit
Hyatt Centric Atlanta Buckhead
Hyatt Centric Brickell Miami - $50 USD Credit for Rooms & $100 USD Credit for Suites
Hyatt Centric Cambridge - $25 USD Credit
Hyatt Centric Candolim Goa
Hyatt Centric Center City Philadelphia
Hyatt Centric Charlotte/Southpark
Hyatt Centric French Quarter New Orleans
Hyatt Centric Ginza Tokyo
Hyatt Centric Gran Via Madrid - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Centric Guatemala City
Hyatt Centric Key West Resort & Spa - $25 USD Credit
Hyatt Centric Las Condes Santiago - $50 USD Credit
Hyatt Centric Las Olas Fort Lauderdale - $25 USD Credit
Hyatt Centric La Rosiere - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Centric Levent Istanbul - $25 USD Credit
Hyatt Centric Melbourne - $50 USD Credit
Hyatt Centric Memphis - $25 USD Credit
Hyatt Centric Montevideo - $50 USD Credit
Hyatt Centric Murano Venice - $25 USD Credit
Hyatt Centric Nashville - $50 USD Credit
Hyatt Centric San Isidro Lima - $50 USD Credit
Hyatt Centric South Beach - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Centric Times Square New York - $50 USD Credit
Hyatt Centric Victoria Harbour Hong Kong - $25 USD Credit
Hyatt Centric Waikiki Beach - $25 USD Credit
Hyatt Centric Wall Street - $100 USD Credit

Hyatt Regency

Hyatt Regency Addis Ababa - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Ahmedabad - $50 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Aqaba Ayla - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Aruba Resort, Spa & Casino - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Austin - $50 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Bangkok Sukhumvit - $75 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Barcelona Tower - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Boston - $75 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Brisbane - $50 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Calgary - $50 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Cartagena - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Casablanca - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Chantilly - $75 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Chennai - $50 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Chesapeake Bay - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Clearwater Beach -$100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Coconut Point - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Cologne - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Coral Gables - $50 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Danang - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Dar es Salaam, the Kilimanjaro - $100 USD
Hyatt Regency Dubai Creek Heights - $50 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Dusseldorf - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Grand Reserve Puerto Rico - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Guam - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Hakone Resort and Spa - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Hill Country - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Hong Kong Sha Tin - $50 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Hong Kong - TST - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Hesperia Madrid - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Hua hin - $50 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Huntington Beach - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Indian Wells Resort & Spa - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Istanbul Ataköy - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Johannesburg - $50 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Kathmandu - $50 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Kiev - $50 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Koh Samui - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Kyoto - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Lake Tahoe Resort, Spa & Casino - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Lake Washington at Seattle’s Southport - $50 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency London - The Churchill - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Lost Pines - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Mainz - $100 USD Credit
Jabal Omar Hyatt Regency Makkah - $50 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Malta - $50 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Maui - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Mexico City - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Mission Bay - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Monterey Hotel and Spa - $50 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Moscow Petrovsky Park - $50 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Newport Beach - $50 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Nice Palais De la Mediterranee - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Phnom Penh - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Phuket Resort - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Riyadh Olaya - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Saipan - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency San Antonio Riverwalk - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency San Francisco - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Sarasota - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Savannah - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Scottsdale Resort and Spa at Gainey Ranch - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Seragaki Island, Okinawa - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Sochi - $50 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Sofia - $50 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Sonoma Wine Country - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Taghazout - $75 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Tamaya Resort and Spa - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Thessaloniki - $50 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Tokyo - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Tysons Corner Center - $75 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Waikiki - $100 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Washington on Capitol Hill - $50 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Westlake - $50 USD Credit
Hyatt Regency Zurich Airport The Circle - $50 USD Credit

Hyatt Zilara

Hyatt Zilara Cap Cana - $50 USD Credit

Hyatt Ziva

Hyatt Ziva Cancun - $50 USD Credit
Hyatt Ziva Riviera Cancun - $50 USD Credit
Hyatt Ziva Cap Cana - $50 USD Credit

JdV by Hyatt

50 Bowery - $75 USD Credit
Bei Zhalong Hotel - $50 USD Credit
El Capitan Hotel - $50 USD Credit
Hotel Revival - $75 USD Credit
The Tribune - $50 USD Credit

Mirival

Miraval Austin - $100 USD Credit
Miraval Berkshires - $100 USD Credit
Miraval Arizona - $100 USD Credit

Park Hyatt

Arat Park Hyatt Moscow - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt (Canberra) - Hyatt Hotel Canberra - $30 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Abu Dhabi Hotel and Villas - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Auckland - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Aviara, Golf Club & Spa - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Bangkok - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Beaver Creek Resort - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Beijing - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Buenos Aires - Palacio Duhau - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Busan - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Changbaishan - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Chennai - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Chicago - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Doha - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Dubai - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Guangzhou - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Hamburg - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Hangzhou - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Hyderabad - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Istanbul - Macka Palas - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Jeddah - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Kyoto - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Maldives Hadahaa - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Mallorca - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Melbourne - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Mendoza - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Milano - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt New York - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Ningbo - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Niseko, Hanazono - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Paris - Vendome - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Saigon - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Sanya Sunny Bay - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Seoul - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Shanghai - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Shenzhen - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Siem Reap - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt St. Kitts - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Suzhou - $50 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Sydney - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Tokyo - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Toronto - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Vienna - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Washington DC - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Zanzibar - $100 USD Credit
Park Hyatt Zurich - $100 USD Credit

Unbound Collection

Carmel Valley Ranch - $100 USD Credit
Chicago Athletic Association - $100 USD Credit
Commune by The Great Wall - $100 USD Credit
Great Scotland Yard - $100 USD Credit
Holston House Nashville - $100 USD Credit
Hôtel du Louvre - $100 USD Credit
Hôtel du Palais Biarritz - $100 USD Credit
Hotel Figueroa - Experience Credit
Hotel Kansas City - $50 USD Credit
Hotel Martinez - $100 USD Credit
Hôtel Reisen - $50 USD Credit
Hotel Sofia Barcelona - $100 USD Credit
IL Tornabuoni Hotel - $100 USD Credit
Jinmao Hotel Lijiang - $100 USD Credit
Langbo Chengdu - $100 USD Credit
Mar Monte Hotel - $100 USD Credit
Royal Palms Resort and Spa - $100 USD Credit
The Bellevue Hotel - $100 USD Credit
The Confidante Miami Beach - $100 USD Credit
The Driskill - $100 USD Credit
The Eliza Jane - $50 USD Credit
The Last Hotel - $100 USD Credit
The Wellem - $50 USD Credit
UB Budapest Parisi Udvar - $100 USD Credit

Thompson Hotels
Gild Hall, a Thompson Hotel - $50 USD Credit
The Beekman, a Thompson Hotel - $100 USD Credit
The Cape, a Thompson Hotel - $100 USD Credit
Thompson Atlanta Buckhead - $100 USD Credit
Thompson Austin - $100 USD Credit
Thompson Central Park - $100 USD Credit
Thompson Chicago - $75 USD Credit
Thompson Dallas - $100 USD Credit
Thompson Denver - $75 USD Credit
Thompson Hollywood - $100 USD Credit
Thompson Nashville - $100 USD Credit
Thompson Playa Del Carmen Beach House -$100 USD Credit
Thompson Playa Del Carmen Main House - $100 USD Credit
Thompson San Antonio - $100 USD Credit
Thompson Savannah - $50 USD Credit
Thompson Seattle - $100 USD Credit
Thompson Toronto - $100 USD Credit
Thompson Washington D.C - The Yards - $100 USD Credit
Thompson Zihuatanejo, a Beach Resort - $100 USD Credit

Hyatt Prive RE-launch - All Prive POSTS HERE PLEASE

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Feb 26, 18, 3:54 am

MichelinMan

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Hyatt Prive RE-launch - All Prive POSTS HERE PLEASE

Hi all - not sure if this has been discussed here (did a search, couldn´t find anything, so if mods want to move this ´that´s obviously OK).

Hyatt Prive has been relaunched after it was essentially dead-on-arrival in 2013.

There are now 146 participating hotels, all of which would be considered ´luxury´ properties by most standards.

Prive amenities are included on any BAR rate booked by a PRIVE agent. For most agents out there, simple hotel bookings are a complimentary service, so it may make sense for any consumer to go this route, regardless of status.

Included amenities:

· Guest welcome letter and Welcome amenity

· Early check-in/out, connecting room (if required) and room upgrade - confirmed within 24-hours after requesting it (these requests given priority above all other rate codes)

· Full breakfast for Two

· Property Credits from $50 to $100 per stay, varies by hotel

You´ll also get a response to any special benefits requests within 24 hours, by rule.

Participating brands include: Park Hyatt, Grand Hyatt, Hyatt Regency, Andaz, Unbound Collection

Amenities can be stacked with Hyatt status, you´ll still receive your points and any promo/bonus you may be enrolled in, and your status is still recognized. In other words - again - Prive and status = entirely stackable.

Many of you diamonds will likely say ´I get most of this stuff already via status´ - which is categorically true. That said, if the rate makes sense, the property credit alone makes a Prive rate worthwile. Furthermore, the upgrade is a killer perk, as it should save you having to use a suite upgrade cert. in many cases.

Just an FYI for all you Hyatt junkies out there

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Feb 26, 18, 4:35 am

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Park Hyatt Prive

Feb 26, 18, 4:36 am

MichelinMan

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Park Hyatt Prive

I´m aware of that thread, but since many (most?) Hyatt-centric FTers never make it over to the Luxury Hotels forum, figured it was best to have a thread here. After all, many here may have Hyatt/status-specific info that would never make it to the LH forum

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Feb 26, 18, 10:08 am

shakim

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So this has to be done through a travel agent that's been set up with hyatt already?

Feb 26, 18, 10:12 am

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So this has to be done through a travel agent that's been set up with hyatt already?

Correct - Prive rates must be booked via an agent who is a member of Hyatt Prive.

There are a number of such agents on FT, so shouldn´t be too hard to do this. Most of us (but not all) handle simple hotel bookings without a fee. Quite a simple process really, and any competent agent can have this done for you - from request to confirmation - in under 20min.

Please note that just because someone is a luxury travel advisor/travel agent doesn´t mean they can book Prive rates. As stated above, they must be a member of this particular Preferred Partner program.

Feb 26, 18, 10:43 am

azepine00

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This should offer a great alternative to chasing 60 nt. How to find out what properties participate?
Are the rates expected to be equivalent to daily rates? Can citi prestige concierge book it?

Feb 26, 18, 12:03 pm

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This should offer a great alternative to chasing 60 nt. How to find out what properties participate?
Are the rates expected to be equivalent to daily rates? Can citi prestige concierge book it?

I´ll answer your questions in reverse

1. Citi Prestige can´t book it. This isn´t compatible with Citi Prestige / free night promos. This must be booked via a Prive agent on a flex rate/BAR.

2. Prive rates are equal to BAR - Best Available Rate - which I believe in Hyatt speak is the ´Hyatt Daily Rate´ (not a Hyatt junkie so someone tell me if I´m wrong here as to the terminology). BAR = the lowest FLEX rate (we´re not talking about advanced purchase rates here).

3. I´m not sure if this list is open to the general public, as I´m logged in as a Prive travel agent, but you can try this link: https://www.hyatt.com/prive/exploreHotels

There are 146 participating hotels. I believ ALL Park Hyatts participate, most Andaz participate, and a good amount of Hyatt Regency, Grand Hyatt, and Unbound participate.

For those who are familiar, this is Hyatt´s version of Four Seasons Preferred Partner, Mandarin Oriental Fan Club, etc.

And yes, this is a great way to NOT chase 60nts, not obsess over your upgrade clearing, etc etc.

Feb 26, 18, 12:16 pm

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Originally Posted by MichelinMan

I´m not sure if this list is open to the general public

It's not. I tried and got

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Feb 26, 18, 12:25 pm

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It's not. I tried and got

Sorry about that.

Feb 26, 18, 3:30 pm

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shakim

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Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Marriott Titainum, Hilton Diamond, IHG Platinum, Delta Diamond

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Originally Posted by MichelinMan

I´ll answer your questions in reverse

How does it work for someone who is Globalist? For example if I book this, use a suite upgrade in addition to the upgrade this booking allows, would that give me a better chance of getting a premium suite vs. standard? And does something like breakfast combine? So instead of 2 adults and 2 children, I can cover another 2 adults?

Feb 26, 18, 8:29 pm

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Originally Posted by shakim

Even using Prive won't be able to guarantee you a Premium Suite. It's at the discretion of the Director of Rooms or GM.

Feb 26, 18, 8:56 pm

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Thanks MichelinMan!
Would it be possible to post the list of properties?
(i assume it is not a secret... )
it seems far more extensive than fhr/virtuoso hyatt offering and should offer a good value especially on 1-2 nt stays like weekend getaways...