WoH (Globalist) Member Engagement Team
#167
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: USA & UK -- AA EXP 3.5MM, Hyatt Diamond, SPG Plat, Avis President's Club
Posts: 6,411
The basic math is that the old program gave a few points with each stay, while the new program gives free nights after a lot of stays. The two programs are basically equivalent EXCEPT for the elephant in the room: Points never expire (if you keep your account active) while the free nights expire MUCH too quickly. That's the biggest problem with WOH.
#169
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Stockholm, Sweden + Austin, Tx
Programs: "But, I'm a GLOBALIST guest...."
Posts: 2,848
The basic math is that the old program gave a few points with each stay, while the new program gives free nights after a lot of stays. The two programs are basically equivalent EXCEPT for the elephant in the room: Points never expire (if you keep your account active) while the free nights expire MUCH too quickly. That's the biggest problem with WOH.
#170
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 1,324
Exactly. One of the main issues with the new program giving certs instead of points is it reduces the ability for use with points and cash rates which can be of great value and on all point stays in lower categories for more nights. They reduced the value of Gold Passport to its members by 50 or 60% over night but changed its name to WoH with dazzling elite Tier level names so we wont mind the loss.
#171
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Pacific Northwest
Programs: UA Gold 1MM, AS 75k, AA Plat, Bonvoyed Gold, Honors Dia, Hyatt Explorer, IHG Plat, ...
Posts: 16,632
That is why, when I earlier this year got the Hyatt credit card, I chose the targeted points offer instead of the two free nights offer. More flexible for my needs, useable with the Club awards.
#172
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Houston
Programs: United 1K, Marriott Lifetime Platinum; Hyatt Diamond/GLOB
Posts: 738
The basic math is that the old program gave a few points with each stay, while the new program gives free nights after a lot of stays. The two programs are basically equivalent EXCEPT for the elephant in the room: Points never expire (if you keep your account active) while the free nights expire MUCH too quickly. That's the biggest problem with WOH.
#173
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: BOS<>NYC<>BKK
Programs: UA 4.3MM LT-GS; AA1MM; Amtrak SE; MAR LT TITAN; PC Plat; HIL DIA; HYA GLOB
Posts: 4,375
The basic math is that the old program gave a few points with each stay, while the new program gives free nights after a lot of stays. The two programs are basically equivalent EXCEPT for the elephant in the room: Points never expire (if you keep your account active) while the free nights expire MUCH too quickly. That's the biggest problem with WOH.
#174
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: USA & UK -- AA EXP 3.5MM, Hyatt Diamond, SPG Plat, Avis President's Club
Posts: 6,411
You get a free cat 1-4 night after 30 nights, and a free cat 1-7 night after 60 nights. Those free nights are basically equivalent to the aggregate "Welcome Amenity Points" we formerly received per stay in Gold Passport. The new WoH program also has additional bonuses: you get 10,000 points at 70, 80, 90 and 100 nights for a total of 40K points. Overall, in terms of bonus points, the WoH program is approximately the same as HGP, with one big huge overwhelming exception: points last forever while the free nights expire after just 4 months. That's the huge glaring hole in the new program.
#175
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: body: A stone's throw from SFO, mind: SE Asia
Programs: Some of this 'n some of that
Posts: 17,263
The new WoH program also has additional bonuses: you get 10,000 points at 70, 80, 90 and 100 nights for a total of 40K points. Overall, in terms of bonus points, the WoH program is approximately the same as HGP, with one big huge overwhelming exception: points last forever while the free nights expire after just 4 months. That's the huge glaring hole in the new program.
I'd argue the two other huge glaring holes, aside from the one you mention, are not counting full point nights for status and the total lack of any benefits for Globs when staying at HH/HPs which encompass a large percentage, and growing, of total Hyatt properties.
I'd also argue that the calamity whereby we lost the Diamond amenity to two award certs would be mitigated (somewhat) if award nights were counted toward status.
#176
Join Date: Feb 2017
Programs: LT Marriott Titanium, Hyatt Globalist, Hilton Diamond, IHG Plat, Hertz Prez Circle, United Platinum
Posts: 767
You get a free cat 1-4 night after 30 nights, and a free cat 1-7 night after 60 nights. Those free nights are basically equivalent to the aggregate "Welcome Amenity Points" we formerly received per stay in Gold Passport. The new WoH program also has additional bonuses: you get 10,000 points at 70, 80, 90 and 100 nights for a total of 40K points. Overall, in terms of bonus points, the WoH program is approximately the same as HGP, with one big huge overwhelming exception: points last forever while the free nights expire after just 4 months. That's the huge glaring hole in the new program.
#178
Join Date: Apr 2014
Programs: Hyatt Diamond, SPG Plat
Posts: 182
[QUOTE=danger/ I'm at the point where I'm deciding on taking a Marriott Platinum challenge, at which point it's goodbye Hyatt.[/QUOTE]
I checked into a Marriott AC Hotel in Rio this week as a Platinum and for my welcome amenity I was gifted a half bottle of wine, cheese plate, free beverage in the lounge, free breakfast, a coffee table book about the city, 1000 extra Marriott points on top of the points garnered from the room price, and a bowl of fresh plantain chips waiting for me in the room.
After so many checkins at Hyatt as a Globalist where the only thing offered has been breakfast, this felt like Christmas.
I checked into a Marriott AC Hotel in Rio this week as a Platinum and for my welcome amenity I was gifted a half bottle of wine, cheese plate, free beverage in the lounge, free breakfast, a coffee table book about the city, 1000 extra Marriott points on top of the points garnered from the room price, and a bowl of fresh plantain chips waiting for me in the room.
After so many checkins at Hyatt as a Globalist where the only thing offered has been breakfast, this felt like Christmas.
#180
Join Date: Apr 2014
Programs: Hyatt Diamond, SPG Plat
Posts: 182
Lol actually there were two bottles of water (the good local stuff, not Dasani) in the minifridge AND a free bottle of local beer.
Somebody at Hyatt needs to do a stay with the competition, before the rest of us move on.
Somebody at Hyatt needs to do a stay with the competition, before the rest of us move on.