PortlySpartacus

I stuck with Hyatt when they changed their program to World of Hyatt and introduced the Globalist top tier at 60 nights. Back then, the 'old' Hyatt loyalists were all pissed because they had been reaching top tier Diamond status by 25 "stays" per year, not nights. These loyal Diamond members were very upset by the program changes because they saw no way to get to 60 nights from their usual 25 stays. I stuck with Hyatt and even doubled down on Hyatt because the quality of their hotels and the way I was treated was noticeably better than Hilton or Marriott. Hyatt got my business and I'm a loyal fan.

I too was initially concerned that this aggressive promotion to obtain Glob-lite status at only 30 nights would dilute the top tier treatment but these are extraordinary times so I'm willing to give Hyatt the benefit of the doubt and see what lies ahead in the next several years as I maintain Globalist.

Kacee

Great point. This is one of the two main goals of the lowered targets (along with driving marginal revenue right now), i.e., to attract consistently high spending customers for the long term. It's something that those who, for example, make status mostly on directed credit card spend can't understand because it is foreign to their mindset, which is always focused on minimizing on-property spend while maximizing their own personal benefit.
Guilty :-)

Back then, SPG was an attractive alternative. It no longer is. Hyatt has also dramatically increased its footprint and made marginal improvements to its program, in terms of both qualification and benefits.

CIT85

Transfer rates to airline miles are terrible, although some people view the value in international premium class for the transfers. Transfers were only great under the old travel packages.

stargold

In my mind, Marriott airline transfers are less horrendous than other programs in terms of conversion rate, and for those which I can't transfer directly from AX, it's a good way to get miles at a reasonable cost.

For Hyatt, absolutely agree that the best use is on stays.

Less OT:
I just did a tally in my head, and as soon as the bonus nights from 2020 / YTD 2021 post, I should have 75 nights. Might actually end up topping out the Milestone Rewards this year.

yurtripper

My 15 nights are booked for a Hyatt Place in DXB in February. In the course of the last few days the all-in price has gone from 3600AED to 3300 AED to 2600AED (rebooked each time!).

700USD for 2 years as Globalist seems like a good deal, especially as I was planning to go out to Dubai for that period anyway (so it's not a mere mattress run).

rbAA

OK, so I am intending to beat a dead horse here, but exactly how many nights did an existing GLOB have to do in 2020 to get an additional year of GLOB? If you guessed -0- you would be right. Zero nights, zero spend. So, I at least did more than nothing to get my 2021 status, plus the 2022 status year kicker. And, I'm already planning more. Marketting 101 strikes again.

Matt4200

Did I say anything about you? The only thing I mentioned applying to you would be that while being a frequent guest is good, you likely won’t get the same treatment or perks as Globalists.

As far as marketing for most of the world either reducing requirements to 30 Nights OR The Double Nights Promo would’ve been sufficient and given Hyatt plenty to work with along with getting them plenty of new clients.

rbAA

If you can do the transfer when there is a bonus promo, maybe. But, often, MR points are excluded from those bonuses. Years ago, there used to be a thriving business for selling Starwood points at like 2.5 cents each. No longer there, nor is there any SPG..

Do the bonus nights count towards Hyatt Milestones?

rbAA

I know, my last comment was just a follow-up on your position that Hyatt was being extremely, overly generous. If you're not active in any other of the programs, you may not realize how generous THEY are now and that pretty much makes Hyatt have to meet or beat their deals. IHG Spire is not exactly Hyatt Globalist, though I've gotten a myriad of benefits from that status in terms of UPG's even suites, mainly, F&B discounts, etc. Ambassador does get a $20 F&B credit when staying at an IC. There is no free breakfast, but remember, breakfasts are usually not worth what you might have to pay for them, especially a hotel breakfast. So, with the IHG status extension, I would get another year of Spire even if I spent -0- dollars, which I didn't, as I had a number of IHG nights last January before the COVID deal hit:
A night at the HI LAX (AA reimbursed me for this but I could have done one of the Hyatts at LAX) as my flight from PEN to DFW was delayed (I had to close a FL real estate transaction about some land I subdivided and was selling off the lots, and the buyer used a Pensacola law firm and it had to be signed and notarized, but I couldn't get a notary appointment at the Bangkok US Consulate any time prior to the COE, so I did the redeye from BKK-NRT transfered to HND for a HND-DFW-PEN and after signing everything, turned around to head back to BKK, crazy, I know,) and I didn't make my connection at DFW to SFO and had to go into LAX instead;
A night at the IC Yokohama (I could done the HR Yokohama or any of the Tokyo properties) as I had a 24 hour layover between my SFO-HND and HND-BKK flights;
Then on a second trip in January, a night at SIN Katong HIX which was actually quite nice and great location for my morning flight SIN-NRT-SEA-SAN, keep in mind that we don't have any way to go from BKK to the US without a connection in either SIN, PVG, PEK, CAN, HKG, Japan, the ME or Europe, and I prefer SIN as I can do the midday CX flight BKK-SIN the day before and get a one-night stand there out of the deal, though next time the Andaz which is pretty cool and I like better than the GH SIN;
3 nights at the San Clemente HIX which is my usual place to stay when I visit my Mom (the closest Hyatt is the Aviara-maybe too over the top- try out the HP Carlsbad instead
2 nights at the IC SF (sorry, it's better than the Hyatt options) using an expiring BOGO to visit younger son in the city;
2 nights at the CP Concord (though the HH Pleasant Hill is better) to visit older son in Concord,
And another HIX night in Castro Valley (HP Pleasanton would have worked too,) to be closer to SFO for an early flight back to BKK via SEA and NRT.
So, though I did have IHG spend in 2020, I didn't need to as always get my SPIRE status extended simply by spending $200 in December to renew my AMBASSADOR status on IC. But IHG would have just extended my status without any spend required, not even the $200 to renew AMB.
No MR nights in 2020, personally, and I didn't need any. My younger son works in the PAC-12 so every Feb they meet at the Marriott in Newport Beach, so he puts me on the record and uses my PLT number. MR extended everyone for 2021 plus deposited 25 elite status nights into my account which also counted towards LT status.
I did have some spend also for 3 nights at the Anartara Phuket for a timeshare thing, but we wanted to also stay a few nights at the HP Phuket but they reflagged, and 2 nights at the Avani Pattaya (again, no Hyatts there, only IHG and MR's) from which I got GHA-Discovery PLT instead of having to do the usual 10 nights. Oh, and about 10 nights in Surin and Ubon in the Thai countryside (no chain has anything out that way) visiting my Thai GF's family, using hotels.com. The nice hotels there are like US$30/nt. Hotels.com extended my Silver status based upon that and that and US$4 gets you a cup of coffee at Starbucks, but I do get a 10% rebate towards a free night. Actually, the Surin hotel we stay at, the Slive, has a great breakfast, a variety of Thai dishes, plus made to order Thai or western omelet and some excellent Thai desserts. And eggs, cereals, etc if you want that kind of stuff.
So, it can be done right
Even when you're only paying like US$30 per night.
Hey, that rhymes! Should have made it into a haiku.

I know, way too much information, but the point is once the COVID thing is behind us, there is plenty of opportunity for Hyatt to get a bigger piece of the action, from not only me, but many others. In addition to that US$1172 I paid for the 15 night GH Bangkok staycation. That was probably as much as I paid in 2020 as detailed above. Anecdotal? Maybe, but it's just one story of many in the marketing schemes these guys put together.

UA-NYC

https://www.hotelmanagement.net/oper...mprovements-q3

Marginal revenue, marginal revenue, marginal revenue

stargold

I'm at a loss as to why some people seem to think they are more qualified than Hyatt themselves to opine on how generous WOH should be. Not to mention it's been a completely OT line of discussion.

Unless you have access to the supporting data and the internal strategy, on what basis is anyone other than Hyatt themselves able to claim to know better?

CMK10

Is this your first day on the internet? If we accepted everything the travel companies did at face value and didn't think our opinions counted for something everyone's post count would be 6

strickerj

I just got a notification that I'd qualified for Discoverist (never had Hyatt status before). I'm pleased but a bit confused - I see they reduced the requirements to 5 nights for 2020, but all of mine were free nights - I had zero eligible spend last year!

gooseman13

Free nights count towards status...

Mary2e

Can someone help me figure this out?

As of today, I have 21 nights as follows:

5 from the credit card
1 , I think, from spend on the card, though I think I'm still under the 5k needed for a night
10 from an actual stay.
I did a 30 night stay ending in early December.

So that accounts for 16 nights IF I hit the spend threshold, yet I somehow have another 5.

I checked my account a few days ago and I had 15 nights, 10 from the stay and 5 from the card. There's no further info in my account except that I got a bonus yesterday. My card statement closes on the 24th, so if I hit the 5k milestone I would have expected to see the 1 night credit in Dec, not early Jan.