It’s here: say hello to World of Hyatt!
Feb 24, 2017, 12:15 am
#31
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It seems that "progressivism" has now become a marketing tool. All the buzz words and themes are there-"a little understanding goes a long way," "For a World of Understanding," "collaborating with non-profits," etc.). As a business traveler all I want is a clean room in a convenient location with the loyalty benefits I've been promised freely given. I'm really not interested in being part of a hotel chain's imagined "community."
Feb 24, 2017, 12:51 am
#32
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Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Zulu Romeo Hotel
Programs: Hyatt LT Globalist; LX SEN (*A Gold), AA LTG, SBB-CFF-FFS First Class GA
Posts: 4,573
oh gosh... is this thread just going to be a 2nd WoH-bashing thread? I think by now, everyone should have passed the "denial phase" and have made their decision as to either stay with Hyatt or leave. No sense to keep on moaning...
Feb 24, 2017, 5:22 am
#34
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I don't see the point of there being a new thread about this program and its devaluation unless and until there is a program launch that involves a major overhaul over what has already been announced about it.
World of Hyatt already gave and got its hello.
The Pritzker family is not just one individual; nor do they all play in the same way within or beyond Hyatt as every other member of the family. And I seriously doubt that Penny Pritzker had much -- if any -- direct involvement in the design and implementation of WOH to devalue the existing Hyatt loyalty program.
World of Hyatt already gave and got its hello.
This drivel has Pritzker family fingerprints all over it. Want to know a little about them?:
http://inthesetimes.com/article/1494...enny_pritzker/
Penny was a huge fundraiser for, and supporter of, BHO, and became his Secretary of Commerce.
Needless to say, we taxpayers have contributed mightily to the success of the Pritzker family due to their favored status, allowing them to profit mightily from government largesse and tax credits, garnered through their astute cultivation of political allies with power.
I just saw this article:
https://skift.com/2017/02/23/hyatt-g...yalty-program/
A layer cake of drivel, offering nothing of substance to business travelers, who really only care about comfort and being able to work effectively when traveling.
http://inthesetimes.com/article/1494...enny_pritzker/
Penny was a huge fundraiser for, and supporter of, BHO, and became his Secretary of Commerce.
Needless to say, we taxpayers have contributed mightily to the success of the Pritzker family due to their favored status, allowing them to profit mightily from government largesse and tax credits, garnered through their astute cultivation of political allies with power.
I just saw this article:
https://skift.com/2017/02/23/hyatt-g...yalty-program/
A layer cake of drivel, offering nothing of substance to business travelers, who really only care about comfort and being able to work effectively when traveling.
Last edited by GUWonder; Feb 24, 2017 at 5:28 am
Feb 24, 2017, 5:56 am
#35
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
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I agree it's really a stupid name for a frequent guest. Last week when I was checking out of a Hyatt I told the front desk clerk, "Well next time I see you I will be a Globalist". We laughed... and two of the front desk clerks agreed the tier names are... well stupid. They had also told me they have received so many complaints about the change.
On another note I'm looking forward to seeing less Diamonds (Globalist) in the club lounges comes 2018, the new 60 nights a year to qualify for top tier is really going to thin the crowd.
On another note I'm looking forward to seeing less Diamonds (Globalist) in the club lounges comes 2018, the new 60 nights a year to qualify for top tier is really going to thin the crowd.
Feb 24, 2017, 6:42 am
#36
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Southern Bavaria, Germany
Programs: LH Blue, BA Blue, Hyatt Gold
Posts: 1,517
I am sure that the really BELIEVES in this.
A management listening to the customers and common sense would have immediately stopped this name change. If not being true believers of the change.
There is really no substantiation to abolish the denominations which are common to the travel world (gold, platinum, diamond) or for airlines (blue, silver, gold and one semi-secret level to lure after) and additionally fine-tune (aka cost-cut) some benefits for the most loyal guests.
IMHO using the terms Discoverist, Explorist, Globalist and some other language has to be so often repeated/chewed over that the staff believes in.
Despite the fact that the traditional denominations work better.
If you have a look on the welcome page you can see:
"thoughtful perks, personal connections,
and amazing experiences. And it revolves around you."
Whoever was paid for the creation of the whole lingo should be given the chance to do something different in the company. Four reasons:
1.) The slogan "it revolves around you" is exactly the same which was used during the start of the oneworld alliance at the beginning of the century.
2.) "Personal connections" sounds like a dedicated relationship manager. High claim and not easy to deliver. Is this a financial institution with a relationship manager for the ultra-high-net-worth individuals? Definitely not. It's a high-class and on some destinations great hotel group.
3.) "Amazing experiences": For European ears this sounds a bit exaggerated.
4.) And the best: "Thoughtful perks". AFAIK the system of collecting points and redeeeming for awards is kept unchanged. So what are the new "thoughtful perks" which are a quantum leap for th ecustomers.
If there is not something big revealed on March 1st there is high risk that customers will be disappointed.
We will see, we will see....
A management listening to the customers and common sense would have immediately stopped this name change. If not being true believers of the change.
There is really no substantiation to abolish the denominations which are common to the travel world (gold, platinum, diamond) or for airlines (blue, silver, gold and one semi-secret level to lure after) and additionally fine-tune (aka cost-cut) some benefits for the most loyal guests.
IMHO using the terms Discoverist, Explorist, Globalist and some other language has to be so often repeated/chewed over that the staff believes in.
Despite the fact that the traditional denominations work better.
If you have a look on the welcome page you can see:
"thoughtful perks, personal connections,
and amazing experiences. And it revolves around you."
Whoever was paid for the creation of the whole lingo should be given the chance to do something different in the company. Four reasons:
1.) The slogan "it revolves around you" is exactly the same which was used during the start of the oneworld alliance at the beginning of the century.
2.) "Personal connections" sounds like a dedicated relationship manager. High claim and not easy to deliver. Is this a financial institution with a relationship manager for the ultra-high-net-worth individuals? Definitely not. It's a high-class and on some destinations great hotel group.
3.) "Amazing experiences": For European ears this sounds a bit exaggerated.
4.) And the best: "Thoughtful perks". AFAIK the system of collecting points and redeeeming for awards is kept unchanged. So what are the new "thoughtful perks" which are a quantum leap for th ecustomers.
If there is not something big revealed on March 1st there is high risk that customers will be disappointed.
We will see, we will see....
Feb 24, 2017, 7:22 am
#37
Join Date: Feb 2013
Programs: Hilton Diamond
Posts: 4,252
I have long since stopped trying to figure out in what world a "Globalist" is better than "Diamond" and why someone in the business that is supposed to be making money take a perfectly good loyalty program and shoot it full of holes and not bother to give it a decent name to try to hide what a load of crap it is.
And as has been stated above, even if the changes benefit you, you have to admit this is all a bunch of complete drivel we are being fed.
And as has been stated above, even if the changes benefit you, you have to admit this is all a bunch of complete drivel we are being fed.
Feb 24, 2017, 7:30 am
#38
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: BOS
Programs: Hyatt Diamond, Mosaic
Posts: 1,050
For those who can do the 60 nights, there are some nice additions to the program. I like that parking is free on award stays, the free nught certs, unlimited suite upgrades, and being able to use DSUs on award stays. But why on earth would you take away the amenity for globalists. It is one of those things I really look forward to when I check in at a nicer Hyatt. It makes me feel appreciated and like my loyalty is being rewarded. There is just something about having some wine and cheese delivered to the room that makes you feel like an elite. If anything the amenity at HP and HH should be enhanced. Usually its just water or maybe a small bag of pretzels. A F and B credit would be great.
The name bashing and irrelevant discussion needs to stop. Now I wonder if they threw them in as a red herring.
Feb 24, 2017, 7:37 am
#39
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Between AMS and BRU
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Then stop reading.... your opinion is just that. You don't get to decide how people should feel about the changes.
And with the "good properties" you mean those that don't play games with inventory or upgrade rules which GP let's them get away with. A bit if a shock I know but those are becoming the exception instead of the rule...
And there's no red herring here... just stupidity.
And with the "good properties" you mean those that don't play games with inventory or upgrade rules which GP let's them get away with. A bit if a shock I know but those are becoming the exception instead of the rule...
And there's no red herring here... just stupidity.
Feb 24, 2017, 7:45 am
#40
Join Date: Feb 2013
Programs: Hilton Diamond
Posts: 4,252
After my post above I took the opportunity to remove the Hyatt Diamond from my Profile and not I did not replace it with World of Hyatt Explorist which technically I am as of Wednesday. I haven't stayed at a Hyatt since they announced this trainwreck of a new program and I doubt I will need more than one hand to count all the nights in 2017 I stay at a Hyatt as a result.