Diamond Re-qualification? Am I scr*wed?
#61
And I don't understand how you can even consider that a night stayed in December (not just on Dec 31) wil not be counted in that year.
Off course stay credit is awarded after checkout, but the date stayed is the only thing that matters. Not some software implementation that processes using the date where a transaction is received, whenever that is.
Off course stay credit is awarded after checkout, but the date stayed is the only thing that matters. Not some software implementation that processes using the date where a transaction is received, whenever that is.
Last edited by RTW1; Jan 6, 2017 at 12:31 pm
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And I don't understand how you can even consider that a night stayed in December (not just on Dec 31) wil not be counted in that year.
Off course stay credit is awarded after checkout, but the date stayed is the only thing that matters. Not some software implementation that processes using the date where a transaction is received, whenever that is.
Off course stay credit is awarded after checkout, but the date stayed is the only thing that matters. Not some software implementation that processes using the date where a transaction is received, whenever that is.
One can't possibly have earned on a night stayed in 2017 for a night actuall stayed and bed slept in, in calendar year 2016. It doesn't make any sense and clearly goes against the terms of qualifying stays are earned during the calendar year through Dec 31st.
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I dont understand why this is all so complicated - its pretty clear that hyatt (and all other hotels) settle up everything on the day you checkout - points, charging your card, final bills, etc.
"A Hyatt Gold Passport member will only receive eligible tier credit for qualifying stays or nights after the member completes their stay and is checked out of the hotel."
From the TOS.
"A Hyatt Gold Passport member will only receive eligible tier credit for qualifying stays or nights after the member completes their stay and is checked out of the hotel."
From the TOS.
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Beyond what I said - it has (for years) been discussed in threads on here about how this particular night is handled and q/a/speculation on if it will count or not. In those years it has always been assigned to the next year. It was an exception for those who got stays split to allow stay or night credits into 2016. Those exceptions were handled on a case by case basis. While it sucks for the OP, this is how the cards fall when dealing with these types of coinflip decisions.
Again, exceptions should not be counted on when hotel hopping for status.
Edit: one last thing - this similar situation also replays itself each and every time a promo is announced. Will the last night count or not.... theres enough history to suggest to someone with 24 stays that its probably risky as hell to have counted on the exception. Either way, wont matter a whole lot - since many folks limping in with 25 stays will likely not make globalist and are unlikely to be future hyatt frequent guests with the prior change. My guess is they took that into account as well with the denials.
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Keep the pressure up on Hyatt CS if you had a similar such stay as mine and keep quoting the existing 2016 and future WOH TC that both clearly say elite qualifying nights are earned in the calendar year Jan-Dec through Dec 31
All those negative folks claiming it should really count in 2017 can say whatever but HYATT GP tc Ddo say nights in the calendar year Jan-Dec and DON'T state that a night stayed is really counted as the next night on the calendar *which makes no sense in the first place
I'm happy for now (2017) still upset at the effort and stress it took to resolve.
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Glad to hear it worked out for you too. ^.
You are right, it probably shouldn't have needed this much effort. However I guess the outcome overshadows the stress. So am good.
You are right, it probably shouldn't have needed this much effort. However I guess the outcome overshadows the stress. So am good.
Good news for me, account just adjusted by CS for Dec 31st stay to count in the real calendar year it was accrued in 2016.
Keep the pressure up on Hyatt CS if you had a similar such stay as mine and keep quoting the existing 2016 and future WOH TC that both clearly say elite qualifying nights are earned in the calendar year Jan-Dec through Dec 31
All those negative folks claiming it should really count in 2017 can say whatever but HYATT GP tc Ddo say nights in the calendar year Jan-Dec and DON'T state that a night stayed is really counted as the next night on the calendar *which makes no sense in the first place
I'm happy for now (2017) still upset at the effort and stress it took to resolve.
Keep the pressure up on Hyatt CS if you had a similar such stay as mine and keep quoting the existing 2016 and future WOH TC that both clearly say elite qualifying nights are earned in the calendar year Jan-Dec through Dec 31
All those negative folks claiming it should really count in 2017 can say whatever but HYATT GP tc Ddo say nights in the calendar year Jan-Dec and DON'T state that a night stayed is really counted as the next night on the calendar *which makes no sense in the first place
I'm happy for now (2017) still upset at the effort and stress it took to resolve.
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Beyond what I said - it has (for years) been discussed in threads on here about how this particular night is handled and q/a/speculation on if it will count or not. In those years it has always been assigned to the next year. It was an exception for those who got stays split to allow stay or night credits into 2016. Those exceptions were handled on a case by case basis. While it sucks for the OP, this is how the cards fall when dealing with these types of coinflip decisions.
Again, exceptions should not be counted on when hotel hopping for status.
Again, exceptions should not be counted on when hotel hopping for status.
As for the mention of 'hotel hopping for status': Who exactly is hotel hopping in this thread or did you just pull that out of nowhere for rhetorical purposes?
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Just more of the culture of insult which now permeates this forum.
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Exceptions are rare events, crediting a night to the new or prior year was never an exception, it was done so often it was an allowance. Hyatt has now decided not to offer that allowance, which is fine, however they did so without any notification, which is not so fine.
As for the mention of 'hotel hopping for status': Who exactly is hotel hopping in this thread or did you just pull that out of nowhere for rhetorical purposes?
As for the mention of 'hotel hopping for status': Who exactly is hotel hopping in this thread or did you just pull that out of nowhere for rhetorical purposes?
it was standard practice to credit those stays to either side of year or promo qualification - hence the shock to come across completely different interpretation this time. Glad to see things being sorted out and common sense (or goodwill) prevailing. I am pretty certain front line agents were only informed of this change recently as they mentioned flexibility on this not too long ago. Future policy is fine either way as long as properly communicated to everyone.
Of more concern to me personally is that once party line was established they did not want to offer flexibility without consulting someone internally - a disturbing sign of things possibly changing within GP - CSRs may no longer be empowered to help out and bend the rules when deemed reasonable... No waivers no favors - i hope to be wrong... For years i trusted hyatt more than any other major brand in travel industry and they could usually offer help when i needed it...
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Of more concern to me personally is that once party line was established they did not want to offer flexibility without consulting someone internally - a disturbing sign of things possibly changing within GP - CSRs may no longer be empowered to help out and bend the rules when deemed reasonable... No waivers no favors - i hope to be wrong... For years i trusted hyatt more than any other major brand in travel industry and they could usually offer help when i needed it...
#72
Not really worth bothering them anymore I feel.
But if this is the way the software is setup it really is substandard (I guess it fits right in with the rest of Hyatt IT). Next year is going to be fun when that 5 night stay after Xmas posts in 2018 and you would have done 60 nights but you won't get status because the system only counts 55. It's though understanding what a calendar year means....
Last edited by RTW1; Jan 7, 2017 at 12:35 am
#73
You could debate in which year the stay credit is earned, but since this will be a useless variable after March 1st they better fix their software to count correctly.
But hey, if I had planned better in December and made it all one stay I could already be halfway to Globalist status on Jan 1st...
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