Park Hyatt Kyoto REVIEW - MASTER THREAD
#331
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Osaka
Programs: Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Gold, UA
Posts: 3,158
FWIW, due to overcrowding on the buses, the city of Kyoto officially advises everyone to take the subway or trains rather than buses whenever possible. Due to long lines, waiting times on routes such as between Kyoto Station and Gion or Kiyomizu can be as long as 30 minutes. Buses typically run at more than 400% capacity and often will not allow passengers to board. The buses always used to board at the rear, but they have recently tried experimenting with boarding at the front so that the driver can control the number of passengers that squeeze on. Especially on crowded routes going to Kyoto Station, it is not uncommon to be refused boarding.
Last edited by OsakaWino; Nov 18, 2019 at 6:33 pm
#332
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: NYC
Posts: 6,429
FWIW, due to overcrowding on the buses, the city of Kyoto officially advises everyone to take the subway or trains rather than buses whenever possible. Due to long lines, waiting times on routes such as between Kyoto Station and Gion or Kiyomizu can be as long as 30 minutes. Buses typically run at more than 400% capacity and often will not allow passengers to board. The buses always used to board at the rear, but they have recently tried experimenting with boarding at the front so that the driver can control the number of passengers that squeeze on. Especially on crowded routes going to Kyoto Station, it is not uncommon to be refused boarding.
Are subways and trains also crowded? Out of curiosity, why would people wait long times for overcrowded buses if there are reasonable alternatives?
Is Kyoto generally crowded? I would have thought as we move into winter it would become less crowded.
#333
Are taxis plentiful?
Are subways and trains also crowded? Out of curiosity, why would people wait long times for overcrowded buses if there are reasonable alternatives?
Is Kyoto generally crowded? I would have thought as we move into winter it would become less crowded.
Are subways and trains also crowded? Out of curiosity, why would people wait long times for overcrowded buses if there are reasonable alternatives?
Is Kyoto generally crowded? I would have thought as we move into winter it would become less crowded.
#334
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: LAS ORD
Programs: AA Pro (mostly B6) OZ♦ (flying BR/UA), BA Silver Hyatt LT, Wynn Black, Cosmo Plat, Mlife Noir
Posts: 5,992
Taxis are plentiful downtown and reasonably available at/near major tourist areas and at most train stations IME. At PH, I wouldn't expect to have taxis waiting all or even most of the time, but I wouldn't expect to wait long after staff calls for one.
#335
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Osaka
Programs: Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Gold, UA
Posts: 3,158
Are taxis plentiful?
Are subways and trains also crowded? Out of curiosity, why would people wait long times for overcrowded buses if there are reasonable alternatives?
Is Kyoto generally crowded? I would have thought as we move into winter it would become less crowded.
Are subways and trains also crowded? Out of curiosity, why would people wait long times for overcrowded buses if there are reasonable alternatives?
Is Kyoto generally crowded? I would have thought as we move into winter it would become less crowded.
Generally there is an overabundance of taxis in Kyoto except at the peak seasons mentioned above, and even then they are not that scarce. As gengar said, there may not always be taxis waiting at the PH since it is smaller hotel and since that area is so crowded it is likely that there is not much space for them to line up. There are almost always taxis waiting at the HR, but it is larger and has a loop drive where they can line up.
Subways and trains are not that crowded, certainly much less crowded than those in Tokyo and Osaka. There are basically 2 reasons why people find it necessary to line up for the buses:
1. The trains/subway do not cover the city well, and locals need the buses to commute. I've seen numerous locals using taxis to travel between home and the city center, but obviously that is not an option for most.
2. The increase in tourists, especially budget tourists who buy a bus pass and then try to use only that to travel. And it is certainly true that judicious use of buses to certain destinations can be the most convenient option, Kinkakuji might be one example.
#336
Join Date: Oct 2018
Programs: WOH Globalist
Posts: 258
Points + TSU. 6 nights
I'm here now, seems there is always 1 taxi in the queue at the entrance. The time I didn't see a taxi in the queue, someone ran out to the Kodajii entrance to flag one down. Given the boutique feel of the resort, I'm sure you can have guest services book/reserve a taxi if needed.
I'm here now, seems there is always 1 taxi in the queue at the entrance. The time I didn't see a taxi in the queue, someone ran out to the Kodajii entrance to flag one down. Given the boutique feel of the resort, I'm sure you can have guest services book/reserve a taxi if needed.
Last edited by faboi0us; Nov 19, 2019 at 5:01 am
#337
Has anyone eaten at Yasaka?
The menu looks very meat heavy, wondering what else is served.
We went to a teppen place in Kanazawa last time and my my wife would only not eat one course, the beef (so I had 195g of Waygu) -- here she objects to far more - so much I don't think it's even worth for her to visit if this is a fixed menu. But I'd like to hear from someone who has ate there.
The menu looks very meat heavy, wondering what else is served.
We went to a teppen place in Kanazawa last time and my my wife would only not eat one course, the beef (so I had 195g of Waygu) -- here she objects to far more - so much I don't think it's even worth for her to visit if this is a fixed menu. But I'd like to hear from someone who has ate there.
#338
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: TYO
Programs: Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 1,744
This property is really getting on my nerves and I haven't even checked in yet.
Been trying to use a TSU for months, they said they'll monitor it for me and let me know if it opens (have this in writing from them).
Today I see it's open, ask Hyatt concierge to apply it they say hotel is unreachable so they can't confirm it??
Now suite is gone.
I'm really not the type to escalate things, but feel like the hotel should have kept their word here.
Been trying to use a TSU for months, they said they'll monitor it for me and let me know if it opens (have this in writing from them).
Today I see it's open, ask Hyatt concierge to apply it they say hotel is unreachable so they can't confirm it??
Now suite is gone.
I'm really not the type to escalate things, but feel like the hotel should have kept their word here.
#339
This property is really getting on my nerves and I haven't even checked in yet.
Been trying to use a TSU for months, they said they'll monitor it for me and let me know if it opens (have this in writing from them).
Today I see it's open, ask Hyatt concierge to apply it they say hotel is unreachable so they can't confirm it??
Now suite is gone.
I'm really not the type to escalate things, but feel like the hotel should have kept their word here.
Been trying to use a TSU for months, they said they'll monitor it for me and let me know if it opens (have this in writing from them).
Today I see it's open, ask Hyatt concierge to apply it they say hotel is unreachable so they can't confirm it??
Now suite is gone.
I'm really not the type to escalate things, but feel like the hotel should have kept their word here.
#340
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: TYO
Programs: Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 1,744
Why don't they just go through the proper channels to block TSU use altogether instead of playing these stupid games?
#341
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: LAS ORD
Programs: AA Pro (mostly B6) OZ♦ (flying BR/UA), BA Silver Hyatt LT, Wynn Black, Cosmo Plat, Mlife Noir
Posts: 5,992
This property is really getting on my nerves and I haven't even checked in yet.
Been trying to use a TSU for months, they said they'll monitor it for me and let me know if it opens (have this in writing from them).
Today I see it's open, ask Hyatt concierge to apply it they say hotel is unreachable so they can't confirm it??
Now suite is gone.
I'm really not the type to escalate things, but feel like the hotel should have kept their word here.
Been trying to use a TSU for months, they said they'll monitor it for me and let me know if it opens (have this in writing from them).
Today I see it's open, ask Hyatt concierge to apply it they say hotel is unreachable so they can't confirm it??
Now suite is gone.
I'm really not the type to escalate things, but feel like the hotel should have kept their word here.
#342
They have 9 suites I believe, indeed availability is tight and I understand that. What bothers me is that the property can flat out lie about monitoring availability and then be 'unreachable' when I noticed it was available myself.
Why don't they just go through the proper channels to block TSU use altogether instead of playing these stupid games?
Why don't they just go through the proper channels to block TSU use altogether instead of playing these stupid games?
#343
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: TYO
Programs: Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 1,744
Oddly enough, I don't care about the suite there much, rather just the property being so flakey is annoying.
Do you guys feel this is worth a mention at check in or is it best to move on?
#344
Best might be to wait until after the stay - see how it all goes and fill out the survey. If there are suites available at check in you should get one since Globalist - so maybe it will work out.
#345
I would mention it to the Director of Rooms or the GM if it bothers you enough. Front desk will probably just give you mild apologies.