forumpersona999

I do not think it is opt-in yet.

Anyone who was told of the AMA (which is probably all GP elites who did not opt out of marketing comms / program announcements) were told:


How do I participate?

1. You will receive an email on November 16 with the link to the AMA.

I think everyone is in the game and no need to take any action until the next steps are advised on 16 NOV.

bison1847

Dear Jeff Zidell,

I know it has been said a few times here already, but without easy access to HP or HH hotels it is a real kick in the nuts to pull the 60 stays approach to making status especially for us based in Europe.

I would propose a better option (or at least one which makes sense for people not living working in high Hyatt dense countries). Don't forget EVEN some of the airlines excluded EQD's or dollars per spend for European based customers.

From a commercial perspective, what is more valuable? Make it to 60 stays at any Hyatt (6K if at a HP @ 100 per night) or 25/30 stays at Park Hyatt, Andaz etc. (9K at 300 per night)

I guarantee I have paid for some Park Hyatt suites some one night fees which are much higher than a week at a typical HH, or HP. Also in some regions, the prices for even the normal HR are 2X to 3X the average price in the USA.

I don't know about the rest of the hyatt crowd, but I shifted all of my work travel to Hyatt (when possible here in Europe as it is difficult to always stay loyal due to lack of options). This was for one main reason, I could then use the DSU for my family when we traveled for personal reasons or on vacation. As my travel is all over EMEA it actually means I need to sometimes adjust my plans to maximize my Hyatt stays.

So I propose to either make it something like (2X or 3X nights for high end Hyatt’s) or exclusions for places in the world where there are only a handful of Hyatt's. I would guess all of Europe (793 Million people) for example has less Hyatt's then New York State (20 Million).

Either way, I hope Hyatt WOH/GP take this seriously as I and many of my fellow Diamonds who are based in a non prime region or choose to spend only on high end luxury are the ones you will loose.

@ Jeff please listen to us, as we do love Hyatt, and although in 2nd or 3rd place the rest of the hotels maybe not as nice are also going to get our business soon enough. The other option is to buy up another large chain so we have better options available to us or keep in mind that not every GP/WHO member is based in North America.

Also, this feels like it is a result of the previous Status Match Offered, while I agree it makes sense to limit the BS non-contributing members, it also makes more sense not to give it away for free.

Just to note what is also missing in addition to my own stays? I also plan and pay on my personal card my company event every year. 100+ rooms (over 2 days at least), next year my strategy will change for sure. As this is only 1 event I guess its not enough for Globalist, but I also guess that the other chains will appreciate the type of travel I do.

It is sad but I guess after using up my last (Yes I qualified by stays again for Diamond this year) 4 DSU's next year and the remaining points I will be forced to move to another chain. Please help!

sfozrhfco

The only one that can help you is You. Individual members don't negotiate their own rules. Rewards programs change all the time. If the new rules work out for you then great. If they don't, then move on. Only you can decide if it is worth it to continue to go out of your way to maintain status.

59Impala

cool message, and fully agree. there should be separate rules for non-US residents, as the airlines do (and you have mentioned). Plus, we have not way of using a Hyatt Credit Card either. Many options not available to us. I hope Jeff does listen!

heakja

Agreed. 25 stays were doable from my OSL location - with an extra effort. 60 nights are not.

ws8n

Suggest that hyatt resurrect FFN. You will definitely cut back on the backlash in this forum

jpdx

It's pretty clear that this program is designed for a strong economy, which is also the cause of other lamentable recent Hyatt policy changes, such as allowing properties to game award inventory and turning the BRG program into a scam.

In an economic downturn, Hyatt will find itself in a World of Hurt -- former Diamond members will have explored other programs and realized that they must have been idiots for making do with Hyatt's limited footprint for all these years. This will spell rough times even for Hyatt's top-notch properties, but the real pain will be felt by HPs and HHs, which make up more than half of Hyatt's hotels and no longer offer any benefits to Globalists (due to the elimination of the welcome amenity).

They'll have to put on some amazing promos to win people back!

PortlySpartacus

Thinning of the herd...we'll see how it plays out but I'm sticking with them for another year to see how things shake out.

igoncrazy

Agreed - I'm sticking with Hyatt for now. They still have the best promotions and great award redemption. For me, free rooms are important. I can get an egg, toast, and juice anywhere.

edgewood49

Best guess is 2019 beginning to turn 4th quarter 2018. Of course the election will or could change that The theory of 18/19 was with Clinton winning, and of course we all know that didn't happen

Football Fan

The Europe thing is a fair question. I'm also based in Europe, and for us, it is much harder to qualify. Markie, could you add that to your list of questions, please? Thanks.

ElmhurstNick

I re-qualified last week for 2017.
- 24 total stays
- 32 full revenue nights and 20 C&P nights thanks to a three-week class I took a few miles from a Cat 1 - that's not going to happen again any time soon.
- 30,500 base points

Between now and the end of January, I have 19 nights planned. 12 are work, 7 are leisure. No award nights. 15 are in cities where there is a Hyatt.

I haven't finished making reservations but it looks like I'm going to have:
- 9-15 Marriott nights
- 4-6 Kimpton nights
- 0-4 IHG nights
- ZERO Hyatt nights

Jaimito Cartero

There's a Hyatt in Geneva. Wisconsin.

Kacee

Ask the DL Diamonds and UA 1Ks how that's worked out for them.

(And yes, we saw similar posts in the UA forum when PQDs were instituted. Don't hear much from those folks any more.)

bison1847

Never my intention to make a special deal for myself, but only with the hope that WOH understands the differences between people based in high density and low density Hyatt locations. Even many of the airlines recognize that.

I also agree it is our own personal choice as to whether we stay or go, but if possible I hope the new WOH program would take into consideration the input from those members based on the other side of the pond also.