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Old Nov 12, 16, 6:32 pm
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Anyone else get a follow-up email for the Reddit AMA today? I'm not sure I can attend now . Wondering if I can share my invite with another without divulging any confidential info.
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Old Nov 12, 16, 7:14 pm
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Originally Posted by Mary2e View Post
Mommypoints is wrong, which is why I never read blogs.

The new program starts on Jan 1 for qualification only. In other words, we keep our benefits until 2/28 (or is it mid march) but for requalification, it starts on Jan 1.
Incorrect. Mommypoints is right. If you have 25 stays from Jan 1 - Feb 28, you get Globalist status through Feb 2019. What you won't get are the 4 DSU's in 2018 (you will get 4 DSU's for 2017).

Originally Posted by EsquireFlyer View Post
Are we sure Mommypoints is wrong about that? The Hyatt FAQ is unclear about whether, if you have requalified for Diamond status through Feb 2019 (if that's even possible) you get Globalist through Feb '19 or only Feb '18. It just says you get "Globabalist" but not for how long.
Mommypoints is not wrong. You get Globalist through Feb 2019.

Originally Posted by Mary2e View Post
Requalification starts on Jan 1 and will be under the new system - not the old.

There are going to be a lot of upset people who run around getting 25 stays in Jan & Feb only to find out they need nights instead.

She probably misheard or misunderstood.
Again, incorrect.

Originally Posted by Mary2e View Post
But I agree with edcho. There is no mention of if it will qualify you for 2018 globalist. And that is what I was talking about.
Again incorrect. If you qualify based on stays between Jan-Feb 2017, you get Globalist status through Feb 2019.
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Old Nov 12, 16, 9:36 pm
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Originally Posted by ZBigFam View Post
Anyone else get a follow-up email for the Reddit AMA today? I'm not sure I can attend now . Wondering if I can share my invite with another without divulging any confidential info.
I do not think it is opt-in yet.

Anyone who was told of the AMA (which is probably all GP elites who did not opt out of marketing comms / program announcements) were told:


How do I participate?

1. You will receive an email on November 16 with the link to the AMA.


I think everyone is in the game and no need to take any action until the next steps are advised on 16 NOV.
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Old Nov 13, 16, 8:25 am
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Thumbs down Jeff Zidell European Based GP Members Need Another Option

Dear Jeff Zidell,

I know it has been said a few times here already, but without easy access to HP or HH hotels it is a real kick in the nuts to pull the 60 stays approach to making status especially for us based in Europe.

I would propose a better option (or at least one which makes sense for people not living working in high Hyatt dense countries). Don't forget EVEN some of the airlines excluded EQD's or dollars per spend for European based customers.

From a commercial perspective, what is more valuable? Make it to 60 stays at any Hyatt (6K if at a HP @ 100 per night) or 25/30 stays at Park Hyatt, Andaz etc. (9K at 300 per night)

I guarantee I have paid for some Park Hyatt suites some one night fees which are much higher than a week at a typical HH, or HP. Also in some regions, the prices for even the normal HR are 2X to 3X the average price in the USA.

I don't know about the rest of the hyatt crowd, but I shifted all of my work travel to Hyatt (when possible here in Europe as it is difficult to always stay loyal due to lack of options). This was for one main reason, I could then use the DSU for my family when we traveled for personal reasons or on vacation. As my travel is all over EMEA it actually means I need to sometimes adjust my plans to maximize my Hyatt stays.

So I propose to either make it something like (2X or 3X nights for high end Hyatt’s) or exclusions for places in the world where there are only a handful of Hyatt's. I would guess all of Europe (793 Million people) for example has less Hyatt's then New York State (20 Million).

Either way, I hope Hyatt WOH/GP take this seriously as I and many of my fellow Diamonds who are based in a non prime region or choose to spend only on high end luxury are the ones you will loose.

@ Jeff please listen to us, as we do love Hyatt, and although in 2nd or 3rd place the rest of the hotels maybe not as nice are also going to get our business soon enough. The other option is to buy up another large chain so we have better options available to us or keep in mind that not every GP/WHO member is based in North America.

Also, this feels like it is a result of the previous Status Match Offered, while I agree it makes sense to limit the BS non-contributing members, it also makes more sense not to give it away for free.

Just to note what is also missing in addition to my own stays? I also plan and pay on my personal card my company event every year. 100+ rooms (over 2 days at least), next year my strategy will change for sure. As this is only 1 event I guess its not enough for Globalist, but I also guess that the other chains will appreciate the type of travel I do.

It is sad but I guess after using up my last (Yes I qualified by stays again for Diamond this year) 4 DSU's next year and the remaining points I will be forced to move to another chain. Please help!
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Old Nov 13, 16, 9:04 am
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Originally Posted by bison1847 View Post

@ Jeff please listen to us, as we do love Hyatt. Please help!
The only one that can help you is You. Individual members don't negotiate their own rules. Rewards programs change all the time. If the new rules work out for you then great. If they don't, then move on. Only you can decide if it is worth it to continue to go out of your way to maintain status.
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Old Nov 13, 16, 9:20 am
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Originally Posted by bison1847 View Post
@ Jeff please listen to us, as we do love Hyatt, Please help!
cool message, and fully agree. there should be separate rules for non-US residents, as the airlines do (and you have mentioned). Plus, we have not way of using a Hyatt Credit Card either. Many options not available to us. I hope Jeff does listen!
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Old Nov 13, 16, 11:16 am
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Originally Posted by bison1847 View Post
Dear Jeff Zidell,

I know it has been said a few times here already, but without easy access to HP or HH hotels it is a real kick in the nuts to pull the 60 stays approach to making status especially for us based in Europe.
Agreed. 25 stays were doable from my OSL location - with an extra effort. 60 nights are not.
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Old Nov 13, 16, 12:49 pm
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Suggest that hyatt resurrect FFN. You will definitely cut back on the backlash in this forum
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Old Nov 13, 16, 3:30 pm
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Originally Posted by ws8n View Post
Suggest that hyatt resurrect FFN. You will definitely cut back on the backlash in this forum
It's pretty clear that this program is designed for a strong economy, which is also the cause of other lamentable recent Hyatt policy changes, such as allowing properties to game award inventory and turning the BRG program into a scam.

In an economic downturn, Hyatt will find itself in a World of Hurt -- former Diamond members will have explored other programs and realized that they must have been idiots for making do with Hyatt's limited footprint for all these years. This will spell rough times even for Hyatt's top-notch properties, but the real pain will be felt by HPs and HHs, which make up more than half of Hyatt's hotels and no longer offer any benefits to Globalists (due to the elimination of the welcome amenity).

They'll have to put on some amazing promos to win people back!
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Old Nov 13, 16, 4:40 pm
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Originally Posted by jpdx View Post
It's pretty clear that this program is designed for a strong economy, which is also the cause of other lamentable recent Hyatt policy changes, such as allowing properties to game award inventory and turning the BRG program into a scam.

In an economic downturn, Hyatt will find itself in a World of Hurt -- former Diamond members will have explored other programs and realized that they must have been idiots for making do with Hyatt's limited footprint for all these years. This will spell rough times even for Hyatt's top-notch properties, but the real pain will be felt by HPs and HHs, which make up more than half of Hyatt's hotels and no longer offer any benefits to Globalists (due to the elimination of the welcome amenity).

They'll have to put on some amazing promos to win people back!
Thinning of the herd...we'll see how it plays out but I'm sticking with them for another year to see how things shake out.
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Old Nov 13, 16, 5:36 pm
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Agreed - I'm sticking with Hyatt for now. They still have the best promotions and great award redemption. For me, free rooms are important. I can get an egg, toast, and juice anywhere.
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Old Nov 13, 16, 6:45 pm
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Originally Posted by jpdx View Post
It's pretty clear that this program is designed for a strong economy, which is also the cause of other lamentable recent Hyatt policy changes, such as allowing properties to game award inventory and turning the BRG program into a scam.

In an economic downturn, Hyatt will find itself in a World of Hurt -- former Diamond members will have explored other programs and realized that they must have been idiots for making do with Hyatt's limited footprint for all these years. This will spell rough times even for Hyatt's top-notch properties, but the real pain will be felt by HPs and HHs, which make up more than half of Hyatt's hotels and no longer offer any benefits to Globalists (due to the elimination of the welcome amenity).

They'll have to put on some amazing promos to win people back!

Best guess is 2019 beginning to turn 4th quarter 2018. Of course the election will or could change that The theory of 18/19 was with Clinton winning, and of course we all know that didn't happen
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Old Nov 13, 16, 6:47 pm
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The Europe thing is a fair question. I'm also based in Europe, and for us, it is much harder to qualify. Markie, could you add that to your list of questions, please? Thanks.
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Old Nov 13, 16, 7:30 pm
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I re-qualified last week for 2017.
- 24 total stays
- 32 full revenue nights and 20 C&P nights thanks to a three-week class I took a few miles from a Cat 1 - that's not going to happen again any time soon.
- 30,500 base points

Between now and the end of January, I have 19 nights planned. 12 are work, 7 are leisure. No award nights. 15 are in cities where there is a Hyatt.

I haven't finished making reservations but it looks like I'm going to have:
- 9-15 Marriott nights
- 4-6 Kimpton nights
- 0-4 IHG nights
- ZERO Hyatt nights
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Old Nov 13, 16, 7:54 pm
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There's a Hyatt in Geneva. Wisconsin.
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