cdancer20

I was coming to say the same thing. After March any "fake" Diamonds would have left. That includes people like me that got in on a challenge last year (b/c I've been told I'm a fake Diamond due to this). I, however, will have my 25 stays to stay Diamond. After next year, I already didn't plan on staying but now even more. I guess in a way, it worked out better for me with this change. I wasn't going to stay Diamond next year anyways but now I'll be able to use my DSUs on my award bookings next year and not pay resort fee or parking fees. However, I am overall not a fan of the change. It clearly knocks out those of us who travel only for leisure and on our own dime. It would have been easier to understand if they changed it to allow full award stays to count towards status.

hailstorm

They actually exacerbated the "problem" by giving them each four club lounge passes as parting gifts!

josephstern

I'm happy for everyone who got that but surprised that this seems to be a one-time-only soft landing for the fake Diamonds like myself.

meraki1990

Looks like a rename of tiers is a must, I don't think a "Globalist" refers to something good now in the US.

cdancer20

But after all the ranting on this thread, I think most here don't think "Globalist" is a good thing anyways. So it still fits. lol

notquiteaff

Explorists: former Diamonds who were encouraged to explore what other programs are out there

Discoverists: former Platinums that discover that the new program isn't any better for them.

iflyjetz

That 30,000 is from Starwood alone. At one point, Hyatt was matching everyone, including Hilton Golds, to Diamond. They matched quite a few lesser chains' status - I'd have to dig through the match thread but some matches were quite insane.
In all, I wouldn't be surprised if the total number of matches were 60,000 or more.

edgewood49

This does not surprise me as you said they were matching Motel 6 for God's sake, so was everyone else. Huge knee jerk reaction to Hilton doing it to them. At the end of the day all of those matches be it Hyatt Hilton etc will come to a crashing end this year and early next. Then those people in fact all of us will be looking around to determine which program is best for them. That's just a fact of life. As these programs narrow people are going to have to do things the old fashion way, earn it by their loyalty. Entitlement days are over, and I for one am happy for it. I as a businessman have always been a supporter of revenue based rewards. I pay either full fare of instant upgrade fare on my airline ( and their just happy I do) and I don't book the cheapest room and stand there at the checkin counter telling the agent how I deserve the Presidential Suite because I am a "loyal" traveler !! I mean really? It never fails when I checking into the PHV and there's an American checking in on reward nights telling the clerk they deserve a suite. I cringe.

That's my opinion.

notquiteaff

Revenue based rewards as in assigning a fixed value to each award mile/point? In other words, rev based on the redemption and earnings side?

edgewood49

I am sorry I met revenue based airline more than hotels.

I think we all have beaten this to death. Every twist and turn has been discussed here, let's wait for Jeff's discussion and then we all can move on to our own decision on 2017.

JIMCHI

I thought our moderator Markie was submitting our questions to Jeff last week and was going to post the answers. I haven't seen anything posted yet.

antonius66

I do think it is funny that I got an email congratulating me on reaching "Diamond" status again until Feb 2018...

notquiteaff

Not sure what you mean by "beated this to death".

My question (and the point in your post, really) isn't directly related to WoH. It's not a revenue-based program on the status acquisition site and it isn't on the reward redemption side.

dtremit

This is what I keep coming back to.

Hyatt Globalist: 60 nights, excluding awards, in 679 properties. No credit towards Globalist with CC.
Hilton Diamond: 60 nights, or 30 stays, including awards, in 4,600 hotels. CC grants status with $40k spend.
Marriott Platinum: 75 nights, including awards, in 5,500 hotels (once combined with SPG). CC grants night credits towards Platinum.

I just don't understand.

josephstern

I think the part you're missing is: Hyatt doesn't believe themselves to be in competition with Hilton and Marriott.