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Old Jan 19, 17, 11:29 am
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Originally Posted by rbw5t View Post
I think that's what I'm coming to also. Will the Hyatt CC provide Explorist? I'm currently guessing I'll have about 27 nights this year. I could push that up to 30 without too much trouble, but not sure it's even worth bothering.
Discoverist, unless you put $40k spend on it (then Explorist). No night credits based on spend towards any level.
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Old Jan 19, 17, 11:41 am
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Originally Posted by notquiteaff View Post
Discoverist, unless you put $40k spend on it (then Explorist). No night credits based on spend towards any level.
I think you need $50K in spend on the credit card to get Explorist status starting March 1st. And you're right...no night credits based on spend.
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Old Jan 19, 17, 11:46 am
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Originally Posted by sensei View Post
There is solid data showing that Hyatt's ADR is significantly higher than the competition. So it seems folks are paying more to stay at Hyatt (even HP/HH). Whether that will change with the transition to World of Hyatt remains to be seen. Hyatt seems to think it won't, while several folks on this thread appear to have a different view. I guess we will know more next year.
The slide below is from the Investor Day 2016 presentation (p20).

Yes, Hyatt's ADR is higher than Marriott's and Hilton's. But they also claim to have 73% of their rooms in the Luxury and Upper Upscale category, with Marriott at 58% and Hilton at 38%. So how much of Hyatt's higher ADR can be attributed to a larger mix of inherently more expensive rooms?

The question I would have is whether they have and will continue to have pricing power for rooms in the same category as their competition.
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Old Jan 19, 17, 11:59 am
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Originally Posted by notquiteaff View Post
The slide below is from the Investor Day 2016 presentation (p20).

Yes, Hyatt's ADR is higher than Marriott's and Hilton's. But they also claim to have 73% of their rooms in the Luxury and Upper Upscale category, with Marriott at 58% and Hilton at 38%. So how much of Hyatt's higher ADR can be attributed to a larger mix of inherently more expensive rooms?

The question I would have is whether they have and will continue to have pricing power for rooms in the same category as their competition.
I also wonder if the Starwood properties are included in that Marriott calculation. (Probably not so Hyatt looks better.) I would think SPG had higher ADRs that Marriott due to the larger luxury footprint vs budget footprint.
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Old Jan 19, 17, 11:59 am
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Originally Posted by jacobsa View Post
I think you need $50K in spend on the credit card to get Explorist status starting March 1st. And you're right...no night credits based on spend.
Yes, you are correct. From the FAQ:

Can I earn a higher tier by spending on the Hyatt Credit Card?

Yes, starting January 1, 2017, Hyatt Credit Cardmembers who spend $50,000 USD on their Hyatt Credit Card in each calendar year will receive Explorist status through the following calendar year.


I based my number on this recent post in the CC thread.

But what's 10 grand among friends.
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Old Jan 19, 17, 12:07 pm
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Originally Posted by christianj View Post
I also wonder if the Starwood properties are included in that Marriott calculation. (Probably not so Hyatt looks better.) I would think SPG had higher ADRs that Marriott due to the larger luxury footprint vs budget footprint.
Not sure if Goldman Sachs included it (that seems to be the source of the Marriott number).

Quick glance at

http://www.businesswire.com/news/hom...r-2015-Results

shows $171 for Starwood FY2015. Not sure if the FYs for all chains are the same timeframe.
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Old Jan 19, 17, 1:03 pm
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Originally Posted by RTW1 View Post
You seem to be really hung up on this high-end thing..... forgetting that the reality is that 50% is HP/HH, then lots of very average HR's. If you are pushing it you could maybe qualify 10-15% of the room inventory as something approaching high-end.

Perception and reality are quite different....
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Perhaps he is thinking about such high-end properties as the Hyatt Regency Rochester? I stayed there for a wedding recently and, as a Diamond with an upgraded room, I would've had a better experience by far at a Hampton Inn, where I did move after a couple of days (and for a much cheaper rate), and an equal experience at a Baymont Suites. In short, the HR Rochester is a dump with poorly-trained staff.
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Old Jan 19, 17, 2:02 pm
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For 2017 this could be not bad. I'm burning all my points at Hyatt and it seems like DSU's are pretty much pointless if there's availability in suites. Now might have to convince management and point to the new rules to force upgrade into suites, but no need now to scour for points and cash.

Park Hyatt Sydney or New York, better to use 30,000 then 15,000 + $300 (can outright buy points cheaper during promos).

Still wondering if globalists who fail to requal will be downgraded to explorist or just straight out.
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Old Jan 19, 17, 4:39 pm
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Originally Posted by YoungSoloTraveler View Post
For 2017 this could be not bad. I'm burning all my points at Hyatt and it seems like DSU's are pretty much pointless if there's availability in suites. Now might have to convince management and point to the new rules to force upgrade into suites, but no need now to scour for points and cash.

Park Hyatt Sydney or New York, better to use 30,000 then 15,000 + $300 (can outright buy points cheaper during promos).

Still wondering if globalists who fail to requal will be downgraded to explorist or just straight out.
Sydney over New York. The food at New York is some of the worst, and the luxury footprint is so much better that the PHNY is really a poor option. Everyone seems to like the Andaz on 5th, which will be my next stay.
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Old Jan 19, 17, 5:10 pm
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Food is fine, but not amazing, at the Andaz on 5th, BTW.
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Old Jan 19, 17, 6:53 pm
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Originally Posted by josephstern View Post
Food is fine, but not amazing, at the Andaz on 5th, BTW.
breakfast at the Andaz is amazing. Dinner is fine.
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Old Jan 19, 17, 6:55 pm
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Originally Posted by josephstern View Post
Food is fine, but not amazing, at the Andaz on 5th, BTW.
I seem to recall from the Andaz 5th ave discussion board that the lemon poppyseed pancakes are 'amazing'. There you have it
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Old Jan 19, 17, 7:30 pm
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Loved the hotel- the room, the staff, the location

the lemon poppyseed pancakes --not so much
(too sweet-almost cloying)

the avocado toast was a winner though !




Originally Posted by PortlySpartacus View Post
I seem to recall from the Andaz 5th ave discussion board that the lemon poppyseed pancakes are 'amazing'. There you have it
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Old Jan 19, 17, 8:20 pm
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Originally Posted by damon88 View Post
Loved the hotel- the room, the staff, the location

the lemon poppyseed pancakes --not so much
(too sweet-almost cloying)

the avocado toast was a winner though !
Does no one have any love for Hyatt Centric Times Square? Andaz 5th St. design looks blah and form-over-function (like desk or storage).

P.S. I'd stayed at PH NY before and didn't find service amazing; not sure what's up with the closed restaurant either . Walkability isn't as great for touristy stuff as somewhere closer to TS.
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Old Jan 19, 17, 8:49 pm
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Originally Posted by YoungSoloTraveler View Post

Still wondering if globalists who fail to requal will be downgraded to explorist or just straight out.
One-level downgrade each year.
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