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Old Nov 22, 16, 11:57 am
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist View Post
Strange. HGP sent me an email congratulating me on requalifying for Diamond Through February 28, 2016. It doesn't mention Globalist at all, but there's a box on the bottom saying that World of Hyatt starts on March 1. There's no reassurance at all except that one should check the new T&C.

If someone hasn't been following the transition to World of Hyatt, this could cause extreme panic as it seems to congratulate one on reachieving HGP Diamond but then the stuff at the end says the program will end in three months.
Did you mean 2017, or maybe 2018?
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Old Nov 22, 16, 12:36 pm
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We'll be taking our business elsewhere with these silly changes. I'm only a 20 nt-yr platinum mainly for leisure travel but the gall of Jeff to state on the reddit AMA that this was "not a cost cutting measure" is really offensive We booked RC Kyoto instead of HR Kyoto for a 4 night stay given this. SPG+Marriott/RC seems to be the better ticket especially in terms of availability. Especially with SPG Gold through Citi prestigue matched to Marriott/RC gold. Just burned 180K points for 6 nights at the PH Milan!
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Old Nov 22, 16, 1:29 pm
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Originally Posted by GoodbyeHyatt View Post
Been a loyal Hyatt member, been diamond for the past 10 years, have not taken up aggressive status matching from all the competition.....until the changes to the HGP program. I stay between 25-35 nights a year, usually just the one night, generally in good quality hyatts/andaz etc. I've put up with the limited choice of hotels to use my points for vacations and I've put up with staying a bit out of the way because I like Hyatt and the way I am treated. Hyatt must be completely unaware that the opposition is rubbing their hands with glee over this disasterous change at Hyatt. I've so far had matches for Marriott gold elite, SPG platinum and Hilton gold. Adios Hyatt, it's been fun but you just lost a loyal customer.
Matched to SPG plat, or challenged to plat?
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Old Nov 22, 16, 1:52 pm
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Originally Posted by Jeff's Response View Post
We had 23 properties in Europe in 2011, and its grown to 37 in 2016 a 60% increase in that time period. Plus, we currently have 8 hotels in Europe under construction that will open by the end of 2018.
I think I'll print this response, frame it, and put it on my bedside table every time I stay at a non-Hyatt property outside the US. It'll be nice going to bed chuckling about the "World of Hyatt."

Originally Posted by Cygnet View Post
Agree. Taken to the extreme, Jeff's answers imply that any current Diamond who is made Globalist for 2017, can be assured of being granted Explorist for 2018 (and by extension, Discoverist for 2019?) even if they make 0 stays and $0 Hyatt spend from this point onward. Somehow, don't think that's gonna happen...
The soft landings are perhaps the craziest aspect of these crazy program changes. So here Hyatt is implementing changes to roll back some of the damage of the excessive Diamond status matching in 2015, and the solution is to give all those "fake" Diamonds mid-tier status for a couple more years?!
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Old Nov 22, 16, 2:01 pm
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Originally Posted by JackE View Post
Did you mean 2017, or maybe 2018?
Sorry, I'm jet lagged. I meant 2018 as I already was Diamond through February 2017 and I just requalified for the following year, which would be as a Globalist and in fact GlobalistMinus unless/until I do my 60 nights.

I just corrected my post. Thanks.
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Old Nov 22, 16, 2:09 pm
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Lot of really disappointing nonsense from hyatt in this thing. I have been trying for be cautiously optimistic but I'll be honest...first, the response about Europe is unreal. "Uhh, we have gone from damn near none to barely any, so you can do 60 nights easily" is not a good answer regarding your presence in Europe. You admit you'd need almost TWO nights a year at EVERY SINGLE hyatt in Europe and act like that's a reasonable outcome?? Second, the best available room language is VERY troubling. The first hotel that gives me some **** room when they have others available and points to that will be my funeral dirge at hyatt.
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Old Nov 22, 16, 3:24 pm
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Originally Posted by thegrailer View Post
Wow -- just wow! I understand real answers are more difficult than corporate speak but really? (and I don't live in Europe)

As others have mentioned, it was an enjoyable run being a Hyatt Diamond over the years. Time to move on aka burn those points in '17.

Cheers
Thanks Markie for passing on the questions and answers.

Originally Posted by Jeff's Reply View Post
6. Can you please address the fact that it is so much harder for members from Europe to qualify under the new conditions (when it was already harder previously), due to the lack of Hyatt Place hotels and the generally small international footprint? Isn't it contradictory to call the new level Globalist, but to make attaining it mostly only possible for people who live in the USA?

We had 23 properties in Europe in 2011, and it’s grown to 37 in 2016 – a 60% increase in that time period. Plus, we currently have 8 hotels in Europe under construction that will open by the end of 2018.
As the person who asked the original question: Is there any other way to take this than a "f you"?

As a sidenote, where are these 8 hotels that are under construction? I know about Andaz Munich, which might be useful for me. Of the new hotels they opened, only the Park Hyatt in Mallorca is of interest to me.
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Old Nov 22, 16, 5:45 pm
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Jeff Zidell,

I have been with Hyatt for about two decades. The elimination of "stay" as one of the ways to qualify for the globalist/diamond status makes it very difficult for some travelers (like me), who don't stay at one place extensively. As a current diamond member, this change is very disappointing. While I would love to stay with Hyatt, it's clear to me that Hyatt doesn't care about a customer like me or forces me to switch to other hotel chains. It's utmost frustrating.
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Old Nov 22, 16, 6:02 pm
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Originally Posted by pt0001 View Post
Jeff Zidell,

I have been with Hyatt for about two decades. The elimination of "stay" as one of the ways to qualify for the globalist/diamond status makes it very difficult for some travelers (like me), who don't stay at one place extensively. As a current diamond member, this change is very disappointing. While I would love to stay with Hyatt, it's clear to me that Hyatt doesn't care about a customer like me or forces me to switch to other hotel chains. It's utmost frustrating.
At two decades and not LT Diamond?
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Old Nov 22, 16, 6:46 pm
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This is the kind of changes that are supposed to benefit me, as someone who has 100,000 base points for the year but fewer than 25 stays and 50 nights.

With that said, I see no incentive to continue on, as there is no additional bonus threshold for someone until they hit 70 nights, and this was a heavy travel year, and i probably won't be hitting more than 75-90k points on a regular basis, but staying at hyatts is too much of an inconvenience for me, even though most of my travel is in major metropolitan areas. I will likely burn all of my points next year and then focus on starwood plat and hilton diamond (which has an easy way to maintain gold if my year is light on travel)

I could see myself making some effort for 30 stays, or 75k base points, but not with the current requirements
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Old Nov 22, 16, 7:03 pm
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Originally Posted by austin_modern View Post
At two decades and not LT Diamond?
I have about 4 1/2 years as Diamond, but I have yet to hit 100K lifetime base points.
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Old Nov 22, 16, 8:07 pm
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Originally Posted by pt0001 View Post
Jeff Zidell,

I have been with Hyatt for about two decades. The elimination of "stay" as one of the ways to qualify for the globalist/diamond status makes it very difficult for some travelers (like me), who don't stay at one place extensively. As a current diamond member, this change is very disappointing. While I would love to stay with Hyatt, it's clear to me that Hyatt doesn't care about a customer like me or forces me to switch to other hotel chains. It's utmost frustrating.
Member for nine years, and this is what gets you to post for the first time!

Hyatt, take note.
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Old Nov 22, 16, 9:06 pm
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Originally Posted by austin_modern View Post
At two decades and not LT Diamond?
I have over two decades, most of them Diamond, and am at 110K base. My pattern has been between 25-30 nights, half at HP to maintain Diamond. Since WoH was announced, I cancelled all my HP reservations.
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Old Nov 22, 16, 9:37 pm
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Originally Posted by josephstern View Post
Member for nine years, and this is what gets you to post for the first time!

Hyatt, take note.
Ok, off topic, but that has got to be a lurker record! Welcome to posting, PT!
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Old Nov 22, 16, 10:13 pm
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Originally Posted by antonius66 View Post
Lot of really disappointing nonsense from hyatt in this thing. I have been trying for be cautiously optimistic but I'll be honest...first, the response about Europe is unreal. "Uhh, we have gone from damn near none to barely any, so you can do 60 nights easily" is not a good answer regarding your presence in Europe. You admit you'd need almost TWO nights a year at EVERY SINGLE hyatt in Europe and act like that's a reasonable outcome?? Second, the best available room language is VERY troubling. The first hotel that gives me some **** room when they have others available and points to that will be my funeral dirge at hyatt.
And that is the problem with the benefits language. We all know there are a small number of Hyatts that do everything possible to keep from providing Diamond upgrades. Judging by history, I am sure Hyatt corporate will let a few properties "get away with it."
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