Nov 6, 2016, 5:33 am
World of Hyatt [Pre-Launch]
Nov 22, 2016, 1:29 pm
#1741
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: CLE -> BNA
Programs: IHG Spire Ambassador, Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Gold, Bonvoy Titanium, UA Silver, RR A-List
Posts: 312
Been a loyal Hyatt member, been diamond for the past 10 years, have not taken up aggressive status matching from all the competition.....until the changes to the HGP program. I stay between 25-35 nights a year, usually just the one night, generally in good quality hyatts/andaz etc. I've put up with the limited choice of hotels to use my points for vacations and I've put up with staying a bit out of the way because I like Hyatt and the way I am treated. Hyatt must be completely unaware that the opposition is rubbing their hands with glee over this disasterous change at Hyatt. I've so far had matches for Marriott gold elite, SPG platinum and Hilton gold. Adios Hyatt, it's been fun but you just lost a loyal customer.
Nov 22, 2016, 1:52 pm
#1742
Moderator: Mileage Run, InterContinental Hotels
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 5,912
Agree. Taken to the extreme, Jeff's answers imply that any current Diamond who is made Globalist for 2017, can be assured of being granted Explorist for 2018 (and by extension, Discoverist for 2019?) even if they make 0 stays and $0 Hyatt spend from this point onward. 
Somehow, don't think that's gonna happen... 
Somehow, don't think that's gonna happen...
Nov 22, 2016, 2:01 pm
#1743
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 100,393
Sorry, I'm jet lagged. I meant 2018 as I already was Diamond through February 2017 and I just requalified for the following year, which would be as a Globalist and in fact GlobalistMinus unless/until I do my 60 nights.
I just corrected my post. Thanks.
I just corrected my post. Thanks.
Nov 22, 2016, 2:09 pm
#1744
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,570
Lot of really disappointing nonsense from hyatt in this thing. I have been trying for be cautiously optimistic but I'll be honest...first, the response about Europe is unreal. "Uhh, we have gone from damn near none to barely any, so you can do 60 nights easily" is not a good answer regarding your presence in Europe. You admit you'd need almost TWO nights a year at EVERY SINGLE hyatt in Europe and act like that's a reasonable outcome?? Second, the best available room language is VERY troubling. The first hotel that gives me some **** room when they have others available and points to that will be my funeral dirge at hyatt.
Nov 22, 2016, 3:24 pm
#1745
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: BCT. Formerly known as attorney28
Programs: LH HON,BA GGL GfL,Hyatt LT Glob,Mrtt LT P,Hilt LT D,IC Amb,Acc P,GHA Tit,LHW Strlg,Sixt/Av/Hz D/Pres
Posts: 6,825
6. Can you please address the fact that it is so much harder for members from Europe to qualify under the new conditions (when it was already harder previously), due to the lack of Hyatt Place hotels and the generally small international footprint? Isn't it contradictory to call the new level Globalist, but to make attaining it mostly only possible for people who live in the USA?
We had 23 properties in Europe in 2011, and it’s grown to 37 in 2016 – a 60% increase in that time period. Plus, we currently have 8 hotels in Europe under construction that will open by the end of 2018.
We had 23 properties in Europe in 2011, and it’s grown to 37 in 2016 – a 60% increase in that time period. Plus, we currently have 8 hotels in Europe under construction that will open by the end of 2018.
As a sidenote, where are these 8 hotels that are under construction? I know about Andaz Munich, which might be useful for me. Of the new hotels they opened, only the Park Hyatt in Mallorca is of interest to me.
Nov 22, 2016, 5:45 pm
#1746
Join Date: Oct 2007
Posts: 1
Jeff Zidell,
I have been with Hyatt for about two decades. The elimination of "stay" as one of the ways to qualify for the globalist/diamond status makes it very difficult for some travelers (like me), who don't stay at one place extensively. As a current diamond member, this change is very disappointing. While I would love to stay with Hyatt, it's clear to me that Hyatt doesn't care about a customer like me or forces me to switch to other hotel chains. It's utmost frustrating.
I have been with Hyatt for about two decades. The elimination of "stay" as one of the ways to qualify for the globalist/diamond status makes it very difficult for some travelers (like me), who don't stay at one place extensively. As a current diamond member, this change is very disappointing. While I would love to stay with Hyatt, it's clear to me that Hyatt doesn't care about a customer like me or forces me to switch to other hotel chains. It's utmost frustrating.
Nov 22, 2016, 6:02 pm
#1747
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Stockholm, Sweden + Austin, Tx
Programs: "But, I'm a GLOBALIST guest...."
Posts: 2,848
Jeff Zidell,
I have been with Hyatt for about two decades. The elimination of "stay" as one of the ways to qualify for the globalist/diamond status makes it very difficult for some travelers (like me), who don't stay at one place extensively. As a current diamond member, this change is very disappointing. While I would love to stay with Hyatt, it's clear to me that Hyatt doesn't care about a customer like me or forces me to switch to other hotel chains. It's utmost frustrating.
I have been with Hyatt for about two decades. The elimination of "stay" as one of the ways to qualify for the globalist/diamond status makes it very difficult for some travelers (like me), who don't stay at one place extensively. As a current diamond member, this change is very disappointing. While I would love to stay with Hyatt, it's clear to me that Hyatt doesn't care about a customer like me or forces me to switch to other hotel chains. It's utmost frustrating.
Nov 22, 2016, 6:46 pm
#1748
Join Date: Jan 2016
Programs: AA, Hyatt, Marriott, Hilton
Posts: 501
This is the kind of changes that are supposed to benefit me, as someone who has 100,000 base points for the year but fewer than 25 stays and 50 nights.
With that said, I see no incentive to continue on, as there is no additional bonus threshold for someone until they hit 70 nights, and this was a heavy travel year, and i probably won't be hitting more than 75-90k points on a regular basis, but staying at hyatts is too much of an inconvenience for me, even though most of my travel is in major metropolitan areas. I will likely burn all of my points next year and then focus on starwood plat and hilton diamond (which has an easy way to maintain gold if my year is light on travel)
I could see myself making some effort for 30 stays, or 75k base points, but not with the current requirements
With that said, I see no incentive to continue on, as there is no additional bonus threshold for someone until they hit 70 nights, and this was a heavy travel year, and i probably won't be hitting more than 75-90k points on a regular basis, but staying at hyatts is too much of an inconvenience for me, even though most of my travel is in major metropolitan areas. I will likely burn all of my points next year and then focus on starwood plat and hilton diamond (which has an easy way to maintain gold if my year is light on travel)
I could see myself making some effort for 30 stays, or 75k base points, but not with the current requirements
Nov 22, 2016, 7:03 pm
#1749
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2011
Programs: Hyatt Discoverist, SEIBU PRINCE CLUB Silver, Marriott Gold
Posts: 20,434
Nov 22, 2016, 8:07 pm
#1750
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Upper Sternistan
Posts: 10,031
Jeff Zidell,
I have been with Hyatt for about two decades. The elimination of "stay" as one of the ways to qualify for the globalist/diamond status makes it very difficult for some travelers (like me), who don't stay at one place extensively. As a current diamond member, this change is very disappointing. While I would love to stay with Hyatt, it's clear to me that Hyatt doesn't care about a customer like me or forces me to switch to other hotel chains. It's utmost frustrating.
I have been with Hyatt for about two decades. The elimination of "stay" as one of the ways to qualify for the globalist/diamond status makes it very difficult for some travelers (like me), who don't stay at one place extensively. As a current diamond member, this change is very disappointing. While I would love to stay with Hyatt, it's clear to me that Hyatt doesn't care about a customer like me or forces me to switch to other hotel chains. It's utmost frustrating.
Hyatt, take note.
Nov 22, 2016, 9:06 pm
#1751
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: California
Programs: Hyatt Global, Marriot Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 2,282
Nov 22, 2016, 10:13 pm
#1753
Join Date: Dec 2010
Programs: Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium, Radisson Gold, Hyatt Globalist, M life Gold, IHG Spire
Posts: 918
Lot of really disappointing nonsense from hyatt in this thing. I have been trying for be cautiously optimistic but I'll be honest...first, the response about Europe is unreal. "Uhh, we have gone from damn near none to barely any, so you can do 60 nights easily" is not a good answer regarding your presence in Europe. You admit you'd need almost TWO nights a year at EVERY SINGLE hyatt in Europe and act like that's a reasonable outcome?? Second, the best available room language is VERY troubling. The first hotel that gives me some **** room when they have others available and points to that will be my funeral dirge at hyatt.
Nov 23, 2016, 4:50 am
#1754
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: BKK
Programs: World of Hyatt Globalist; Marriott Bonvoy LTP; IHG Plat
Posts: 2,231
Nov 23, 2016, 7:22 am
#1755
FlyerTalk Evangelist & Ambassador: China
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: DEN
Programs: DL DM/MM, UA 1K, AA Exp, HH Dia, WOH Glob, IHG Plat, Marriott Gold, NA EE, Hertz PC
Posts: 17,419
Ditto.
So true.
Is there a thread on the results of the Q&A with Jeff Z re the AMA Reddit thing? I got one email but never got an official invite and wouldn't have been able to attend anyway. Would love to see what posters/bloggers say about the Q&A.
So true.
Is there a thread on the results of the Q&A with Jeff Z re the AMA Reddit thing? I got one email but never got an official invite and wouldn't have been able to attend anyway. Would love to see what posters/bloggers say about the Q&A.