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Old Nov 16, 2016, 3:51 pm
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So did the thing even go off? I never got any email with a link to it, I don't see a thread about it, and can't find anything about it online.
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Old Nov 16, 2016, 4:01 pm
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Originally Posted by antonius66
So did the thing even go off? I never got any email with a link to it, I don't see a thread about it, and can't find anything about it online.
See all the messages above that talk about it.
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Old Nov 16, 2016, 4:02 pm
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Yeah I finally found the actual AMA. Man what a disaster that looked like. So he basically did not answer anything, and regurgitated a bunch of empty corporate blather that is largely already on their website and such. Really useful.
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Old Nov 16, 2016, 4:25 pm
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Originally Posted by antonius66
So he basically did not answer anything, and regurgitated a bunch of empty corporate blather that is largely already on their website and such.
He was slaughtered by Redditors in real time. And the AMA was indeed a disaster... but that's pretty common in meet-the-public situations like this. I still remember a little cabal of Diners Club execs doing a live chat here on FlyerTalk, years ago, as their program was unraveling. Their answers were so programmed and plasticky and evasive, I am sure the event hastened the end of DC as we then knew it. As for Hyatt... I see no rationale for WoH and Zidell was entirely unable to explain why it's better for customers. His choice to expose himself to an AMA made no sense.
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Old Nov 16, 2016, 4:32 pm
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Originally Posted by Football Fan
Yes, but then why name the top tier "Globalist"?
A U.S. citizen that travels all over the world is a Globalist. Someone who lives in Asia and travels all over the world is a Globalist. A European who travels all over the world is a Globalist. A European who wishes to stay in European Hyatt's is not a globalist.

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You can earn miles with Lufthansa Miles and More while domestically flying UA. Also, e.g. BA (until recently) did have lower qualification requirements for people outside the UK. (I do see the problems with that, though, because many people of course changed their address just to requalify.)
Right but UA sucks, I don't want to fly them. I want to fly Lufthansa.
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Old Nov 16, 2016, 4:40 pm
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Originally Posted by BigManOnCampus1
A U.S. citizen that travels all over the world is a Globalist. Someone who lives in Asia and travels all over the world is a Globalist. A European who travels all over the world is a Globalist. A European who wishes to stay in European Hyatt's is not a globalist.
What about an American who only stays in Hyatt Place hotels in Iowa, 60 nights a year. Right...a Globalist. I am not impressed by your reasoning.
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Old Nov 16, 2016, 4:41 pm
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Originally Posted by JackE
Too bad we can't bet points on whether Zidell will last a year after this thing launches.
He answers to the CEO who answers to the director who represent the shareholders. What makes you think he won't be around in the future?

Unless we vote heavily with our wallets, he'll be a hero to the bean counters.
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Old Nov 16, 2016, 5:05 pm
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I just read that AMA. LOL. Brutal. Corporate speak, avoiding any straight answers. Pitiful.
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Old Nov 16, 2016, 5:20 pm
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Originally Posted by BigManOnCampus1
A U.S. citizen that travels all over the world is a Globalist. Someone who lives in Asia and travels all over the world is a Globalist. A European who travels all over the world is a Globalist. A European who wishes to stay in European Hyatt's is not a globalist.
That's your own personal definition. Here is a more standard one:

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dict...lish/globalist

someone who believes that economic and foreign policy should be planned in an international way, rather than according to what is best for one particular country :

"He is a globalist, whereas we are nationalists who will put our country first."

"She is critical of the president's globalist foreign policy."
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Old Nov 16, 2016, 5:25 pm
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Originally Posted by cmglobal
He answers to the CEO who answers to the director who represent the shareholders. What makes you think he won't be around in the future?

Unless we vote heavily with our wallets, he'll be a hero to the bean counters.
It's quite possible that Mr. Zidell has simply been tasked with implementing and explaining program changes that were mandated by others. I would hesitate to single him out for blame without first knowing who actually conceptualized this fiasco.

Originally Posted by Football Fan
What about an American who only stays in Hyatt Place hotels in Iowa, 60 nights a year. Right...a Globalist. I am not impressed by your reasoning.
+1
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Old Nov 16, 2016, 5:44 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee
It's quite possible that Mr. Zidell has simply been tasked with implementing and explaining program changes that were mandated by others. I would hesitate to single him out for blame without first knowing who actually conceptualized this fiasco.
Yup. Have to wonder, though, if he was tasked with selling it to Redditers. That seemed to be a no win proposition. I assume no one here actuallly expected him to explain why it is actually a good change for many current Hyatt elites.
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Old Nov 16, 2016, 6:22 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee
It's quite possible that Mr. Zidell has simply been tasked with implementing and explaining program changes that were mandated by others. I would hesitate to single him out for blame without first knowing who actually conceptualized this fiasco.
No, he said he was tasked with reexamining his work and "for my team and me, that meant taking a fresh look at our loyalty program."

This is his baby. No matter how ugly it is.

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/commen...hyatt/da340z5/
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Old Nov 16, 2016, 6:37 pm
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Originally Posted by skunker
No, he said he was tasked with reexamining his work and "for my team and me, that meant taking a fresh look at our loyalty program."

This is his baby. No matter how ugly it is.

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/commen...hyatt/da340z5/
My point stands regardless. Whether this is his brainchild or not, he's doing the bidding of his superiors and his job is not in jeopardy.
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Old Nov 16, 2016, 6:41 pm
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Originally Posted by skunker
No, he said he was tasked with reexamining his work and "for my team and me, that meant taking a fresh look at our loyalty program."

This is his baby. No matter how ugly it is.
Um, ever hear of taking one for the team? It's kind of an essential survival task in the corporate environment.
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Old Nov 16, 2016, 6:48 pm
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Originally Posted by cmglobal
He answers to the CEO who answers to the director who represent the shareholders. What makes you think he won't be around in the future?

Unless we vote heavily with our wallets, he'll be a hero to the bean counters.
Yes, I'm referring to our wallet-votes.
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