Complimentary Wi-Fi Launching for All Guests in February
#47
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Osaka
Programs: Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Gold, UA
Posts: 3,158
Wow. Really? I will say, for the THIRD time, SOME PROPERTIES DO NOT HAVE "PREMIUM" INTERNET. Is it that hard to comprehend that my question pertained to the properties that only have one internet tier? I understand the desire to want to oversimplify things with blanket generalizations, as conclusions are always easier to jump to and a case is more easily closed when you don't take details into account. But please, at least try to parse the nuances... it's not hard when they've been spelled out several times.
Last edited by OsakaWino; Dec 26, 2014 at 7:53 pm
#48
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Seattle,WA
Programs: Hyatt Diamond+, Alaska Airlines MVP, Priority Club Platinum
Posts: 2,682
This comment really annoys me since I don't currently travel enough to earn diamond because it is all leisure but still I do stay 10-18 STAYS per year, every year. I do not have the credit card so I earn platinum from my stays and the benefits are positively abysmal. I was just feeling angry about it this past week with the lack of upgrades or anything. In fact, when Hyatt says thank you for being a platinum it makes my blood boil. Many years ago I remember Hilton Gold was so easy to earn and the benefits were far superior than what Hyatt platinum status gets. There was a time many years ago when I stayed at Hyatt 300 nights per year but now those same hotels ask me if it is my first time at the property.
#49
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Osaka
Programs: Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Gold, UA
Posts: 3,158
This comment really annoys me since I don't currently travel enough to earn diamond because it is all leisure but still I do stay 10-18 STAYS per year, every year. I do not have the credit card so I earn platinum from my stays and the benefits are positively abysmal. I was just feeling angry about it this past week with the lack of upgrades or anything. In fact, when Hyatt says thank you for being a platinum it makes my blood boil. Many years ago I remember Hilton Gold was so easy to earn and the benefits were far superior than what Hyatt platinum status gets. There was a time many years ago when I stayed at Hyatt 300 nights per year but now those same hotels ask me if it is my first time at the property.
I've always thought that Hyatt should have a tier between Plat and Dia to encourage leisure travellers to stay more.
As a Plat for many years, I never bothered with worrying about the benefits. We just stayed where we wanted. Although in general we like Hyatt more than other chains, in some cities we'd choose Hilton or Ritz Carlton even when there was a Hyatt nearby. And that is what I would recommend for most leisure travellers. It sure relieves the pressure of having to requalify. And even more important, choosing your hotel because it is the place you want to stay rather than the place where you get some perk can make travel much more enjoyable.
As others have said, free internet for all guests is the right way to go in this day and age; actually it is very late in coming. Charging for internet is like charging for television.
#50
Join Date: Jan 2014
Programs: Amtrak Guest Rewards (SE), Virgin America Elevate, Hyatt Gold Passport (Platinum), VIA Preference
Posts: 3,134
I do appreciate this change, broadly speaking. I know the concerns about properties with only a single tier of wifi (and hopefully Hyatt will start prodding them to improve their wifi), but this does stand as an improvement. I'll agree that this doesn't fully make up for the loss of MER, but it's not nothing and I appreciate it all the same.
#51
#52
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Comparing Hilton Gold with Hyatt Plat makes no sense. Hilton Gold requires 20 stays/40 nights, while Hyatt Plat is 5/15; Hyatt Plat requirement is more similar to Hilton Silver (4/10).
I've always thought that Hyatt should have a tier between Plat and Dia to encourage leisure travellers to stay more.
As a Plat for many years, I never bothered with worrying about the benefits. We just stayed where we wanted. Although in general we like Hyatt more than other chains, in some cities we'd choose Hilton or Ritz Carlton even when there was a Hyatt nearby. And that is what I would recommend for most leisure travellers. It sure relieves the pressure of having to requalify. And even more important, choosing your hotel because it is the place you want to stay rather than the place where you get some perk can make travel much more enjoyable.
As others have said, free internet for all guests is the right way to go in this day and age; actually it is very late in coming. Charging for internet is like charging for television.
I've always thought that Hyatt should have a tier between Plat and Dia to encourage leisure travellers to stay more.
As a Plat for many years, I never bothered with worrying about the benefits. We just stayed where we wanted. Although in general we like Hyatt more than other chains, in some cities we'd choose Hilton or Ritz Carlton even when there was a Hyatt nearby. And that is what I would recommend for most leisure travellers. It sure relieves the pressure of having to requalify. And even more important, choosing your hotel because it is the place you want to stay rather than the place where you get some perk can make travel much more enjoyable.
As others have said, free internet for all guests is the right way to go in this day and age; actually it is very late in coming. Charging for internet is like charging for television.
I agree with your final paragraph.
#53
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Seattle,WA
Programs: Hyatt Diamond+, Alaska Airlines MVP, Priority Club Platinum
Posts: 2,682
In practice, Hilton Gold has -- for years and still -- been had for 0-4 stays (even single night stays, if any stays were even required). I have so many family and friends with current Hilton Gold status despite them having no prior history of using the Hilton HHonors program.
I agree with your final paragraph.
I agree with your final paragraph.
#55
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: ANC
Programs: AS; Hyatt; Bonvoy
Posts: 1,718
N of 4 represents 40% of the different Hyatt hotels I stayed at in 5 states and 4 countries during 2014.
The impact the slow wifi had on my >30 stays and >50 nights was significant enough to annoy me greatly - hence my previous post.
Again, YMMV. If you consistently get blazingly fast wifi during every single one of your stays, then you're a fortunate one ... and I'd like to know your secret.
#56
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Stockholm, Sweden + Austin, Tx
Programs: "But, I'm a GLOBALIST guest...."
Posts: 2,848
This comment really annoys me since I don't currently travel enough to earn diamond because it is all leisure but still I do stay 10-18 STAYS per year, every year. I do not have the credit card so I earn platinum from my stays and the benefits are positively abysmal. I was just feeling angry about it this past week with the lack of upgrades or anything. In fact, when Hyatt says thank you for being a platinum it makes my blood boil. Many years ago I remember Hilton Gold was so easy to earn and the benefits were far superior than what Hyatt platinum status gets. There was a time many years ago when I stayed at Hyatt 300 nights per year but now those same hotels ask me if it is my first time at the property.
1) That hyatt cares how you pay for your stays. Revenue is revenue no matter if its on your amex or your companies.
2) You're assuming that I (and others) don't make diamond with our leisure stays.
Finally, if you don't like it - switch providers... oh wait, all low/mid tier are roughly the same across all hotels, so you're really just upset at hyatt for what services you would more or less get at any hotel provider. To me, that doesn't make much sense.
#57
#58
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: ANC
Programs: AS; Hyatt; Bonvoy
Posts: 1,718
I have, and they do seem to be the exception.
During the past 14 months I've had the pleasure of staying at the PH Dubai, PH Sydney, and PH Melbourne, along with 3 other Hyatts in Australia & Asia. Excellent service and decent wireless speeds at all of those properties.
If only US properties stepped up their game ...
During the past 14 months I've had the pleasure of staying at the PH Dubai, PH Sydney, and PH Melbourne, along with 3 other Hyatts in Australia & Asia. Excellent service and decent wireless speeds at all of those properties.
If only US properties stepped up their game ...
#59
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: SYD
Programs: QF WP (OWE), VA PLAT, EY GLD, SPG PLAT, Hyatt DIA, Hilton DIA, Hertz PC
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I have, and they do seem to be the exception.
During the past 14 months I've had the pleasure of staying at the PH Dubai, PH Sydney, and PH Melbourne, along with 3 other Hyatts in Australia & Asia. Excellent service and decent wireless speeds at all of those properties.
If only US properties stepped up their game ...
During the past 14 months I've had the pleasure of staying at the PH Dubai, PH Sydney, and PH Melbourne, along with 3 other Hyatts in Australia & Asia. Excellent service and decent wireless speeds at all of those properties.
If only US properties stepped up their game ...
In Sydney alone, internet can cost up to $50/day so they can't get away with low bandwidth.