Permanent Diamond Status for Credit Card Holders [Targeted - In Error]
#631
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: RDU
Programs: A few
Posts: 5,499
I requested to reopen this thread years later as one of the "survivors" (lol) that was targeted for this offer, got the card and as such had the deal honored. It has been a great run since then and frankly it probably has worked in Hyatt's favor as I have moved many stays and dollars into Hyatt that frankly would not have gone there otherwise.
However it seems now that Hyatt are wiggling their way out of this and I wanted to see if other "survivors" are having the same experience and whether or not they have been able to push back successfully. While I still have "Globalist" status, this year for the first time I did not get any suite upgrade awards, and I did not get a free night award either. I got both last year, and then back in the HGP days I got my suite upgrades. They are saying it is because now the upgrades and free nights are tied to number of nights/stays and not the status. But if I read the legal contract which is the terms & conditions, it is at very best ambiguous.
Thanks to @peteropny for repopening the thread and please I would prefer to only hear from those who got in on the deal and are experiencing the same challenge. Any posts about the validity of the deal or anything else will add nothing to the discussion so please keep to yourself
However it seems now that Hyatt are wiggling their way out of this and I wanted to see if other "survivors" are having the same experience and whether or not they have been able to push back successfully. While I still have "Globalist" status, this year for the first time I did not get any suite upgrade awards, and I did not get a free night award either. I got both last year, and then back in the HGP days I got my suite upgrades. They are saying it is because now the upgrades and free nights are tied to number of nights/stays and not the status. But if I read the legal contract which is the terms & conditions, it is at very best ambiguous.
Thanks to @peteropny for repopening the thread and please I would prefer to only hear from those who got in on the deal and are experiencing the same challenge. Any posts about the validity of the deal or anything else will add nothing to the discussion so please keep to yourself
#632
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Join Date: Jul 2011
Programs: Hyatt Discoverist, SEIBU PRINCE CLUB Silver, Marriott Gold
Posts: 20,432
I think that the whole company infrastructure behind the original issue has been largely replaced, and thus feels no attachment towards doing anything more than what they believe as to be following the letter of the agreement.
The BBB has sided with Hyatt in claims filed in this case, so i don't think that anything short of legal action could help you here.
The BBB has sided with Hyatt in claims filed in this case, so i don't think that anything short of legal action could help you here.
Last edited by hailstorm; May 27, 2018 at 5:24 pm
#633
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: USA & UK -- AA EXP 3.5MM, Hyatt Diamond, SPG Plat, Avis President's Club
Posts: 6,411
However it seems now that Hyatt are wiggling their way out of this and I wanted to see if other "survivors" are having the same experience and whether or not they have been able to push back successfully. While I still have "Globalist" status, this year for the first time I did not get any suite upgrade awards, and I did not get a free night award either. I got both last year, and then back in the HGP days I got my suite upgrades. They are saying it is because now the upgrades and free nights are tied to number of nights/stays and not the status. But if I read the legal contract which is the terms & conditions, it is at very best ambiguous.
#634
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Houston,Texas,USA
Programs: Starwood Gold, HH Diamond,Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 961
Sounds like you are going to have to settle for free breakfast,late checkout,and an occasional upgrade.Not sure about a concierge.
#635
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Stilllwater OK (SWO)
Programs: AAdvantage ExecPlat, World of Hyatt Globalist, plain "member" of Marriott, IHG, enterprise, etc.
Posts: 1,844
I requested to reopen this thread years later as one of the "survivors" (lol) that was targeted for this offer, got the card and as such had the deal honored. It has been a great run since then and frankly it probably has worked in Hyatt's favor as I have moved many stays and dollars into Hyatt that frankly would not have gone there otherwise.
However it seems now that Hyatt are wiggling their way out of this and I wanted to see if other "survivors" are having the same experience and whether or not they have been able to push back successfully. While I still have "Globalist" status, this year for the first time I did not get any suite upgrade awards, and I did not get a free night award either. I got both last year, and then back in the HGP days I got my suite upgrades. They are saying it is because now the upgrades and free nights are tied to number of nights/stays and not the status. But if I read the legal contract which is the terms & conditions, it is at very best ambiguous.
Thanks to @peteropny for repopening the thread and please I would prefer to only hear from those who got in on the deal and are experiencing the same challenge. Any posts about the validity of the deal or anything else will add nothing to the discussion so please keep to yourself
However it seems now that Hyatt are wiggling their way out of this and I wanted to see if other "survivors" are having the same experience and whether or not they have been able to push back successfully. While I still have "Globalist" status, this year for the first time I did not get any suite upgrade awards, and I did not get a free night award either. I got both last year, and then back in the HGP days I got my suite upgrades. They are saying it is because now the upgrades and free nights are tied to number of nights/stays and not the status. But if I read the legal contract which is the terms & conditions, it is at very best ambiguous.
Thanks to @peteropny for repopening the thread and please I would prefer to only hear from those who got in on the deal and are experiencing the same challenge. Any posts about the validity of the deal or anything else will add nothing to the discussion so please keep to yourself
Really, I am not sure why they wouldn't have killed this agreement already given that is was a mistake and a few years have passed to assuage those that benefited. I am not a lawyer and I don't have that much experience with co-branded credit cards, but I've never heard of anyone having an absolute right to keep stated CC with stated benefits --- I've had quite a few CCs send notices about changes in terms and conditions with the kind language that either I accept or the let the CC company know so that they will close my account. If you ask me, if they are still letting you get the 'status' and benefits with status, you should consider yourself lucky. And yes, suite upgrades and free cat1-7 are based on night qualifications. There are quite a few globalists that earned status via a challenge/promotion that are upgrade-less.
#636
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Stilllwater OK (SWO)
Programs: AAdvantage ExecPlat, World of Hyatt Globalist, plain "member" of Marriott, IHG, enterprise, etc.
Posts: 1,844
#637
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: California
Programs: Hyatt Global, Marriot Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 2,282
WoH TOS:
1. Hyatt Gold Passport Lifetime Diamond Members. Members in good standing of the Hyatt Gold Passport program who had “Lifetime Diamond” status received Lifetime Globalist status in the Program as of launch of the Program on March 1, 2017.
1. Hyatt Gold Passport Lifetime Diamond Members. Members in good standing of the Hyatt Gold Passport program who had “Lifetime Diamond” status received Lifetime Globalist status in the Program as of launch of the Program on March 1, 2017.
#638
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: California
Programs: Hyatt Global, Marriot Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 2,282
The whole point of a lifetime status is to provide benefits to guests whose travel tapers off in exchange for business before it does.
WoH TOS:
(b) Benefits. Members with Lifetime Globalist status (each a “Lifetime Globalist”) will receive all of the benefits of Globalist status, as set forth in the “Globalist Status” section above, except as expressly modified here:
Pursuant to these Terms, certain awards and benefits are provided to Members only upon the Member earning a minimum number Base Points or completing a minimum number of Tier-Qualifying Nights during a Calendar Year. Lifetime Globalists will receive the following awards and benefits described in this Appendix C without the need to satisfy a minimum annual Base Point earning or Tier-Qualifying Night threshold:
(i) Four (4) Complimentary Suite Upgrade Awards annually;
(ii) One (1) Category 1-7 Free Night Award annually; and
(iii) Access to a dedicated My Hyatt Concierge agent.
WoH TOS:
(b) Benefits. Members with Lifetime Globalist status (each a “Lifetime Globalist”) will receive all of the benefits of Globalist status, as set forth in the “Globalist Status” section above, except as expressly modified here:
Pursuant to these Terms, certain awards and benefits are provided to Members only upon the Member earning a minimum number Base Points or completing a minimum number of Tier-Qualifying Nights during a Calendar Year. Lifetime Globalists will receive the following awards and benefits described in this Appendix C without the need to satisfy a minimum annual Base Point earning or Tier-Qualifying Night threshold:
(i) Four (4) Complimentary Suite Upgrade Awards annually;
(ii) One (1) Category 1-7 Free Night Award annually; and
(iii) Access to a dedicated My Hyatt Concierge agent.
#639
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Chicago, IL
Programs: AA EXP & AAirpass, Hyatt Courtesy Card, SPG Platinum
Posts: 991
This doesn’t seem relevant. Recipients of the credit card offer where promised HGP Diamond status for as long as they remain a credit cardmember. They were not promised lifetime Diamond status.
#640
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: California
Programs: Hyatt Global, Marriot Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 2,282
Certainly, that would be an additional requirement -- just as there are additional requirements for 1M-base-point LTGs to keep that status.
#641
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The deal was never "Lifetime Diamond" status. It was Diamond status renewed yearly, pursuant to the customer remaining a Hyatt credit card holder.
#642
Moderator: GLBT Travelers & Hyatt Gold Passport
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: CVG
Posts: 15,300
Ok we’re had hoped that discussion can remain cordial. Boy am I wrong. So this thread is locked again.
Peteropny - co-mod - Hyatt
Peteropny - co-mod - Hyatt