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exmike Apr 2, 2015 10:54 am

Its incredible how far this property has fallen in year. I was pretty sure I would never return to this property, but now this resort fee BS seals the deal. Retroactive resort fee is total BS. About the most customer-unfriendly you could conjure up short of increasing the price of the room post-booking (which is essentially what it is). Time to bombard review sites with negative reports. Disgusting.

For Diamonds
Full breakfast --> pantry
Full spa access --> spa access one time access --> no spa access

For all
No resort fee --> retroactive exorbitant resort fee
Free canoe ride --> no longer free
Cash and points availability --> questionable availability
Compulsory rip off valet parking (unchanged)

Am I missing anything?

Biggie Fries Apr 2, 2015 11:03 am

Look on the website right now ... they seem to have backtracked somewhat -- resort fee will only apply to reservations made as of today forward

tvervenne Apr 2, 2015 11:52 am


Originally Posted by Biggie Fries (Post 24606241)
Look on the website right now ... they seem to have backtracked somewhat -- resort fee will only apply to reservations made as of today forward

I called the hotel and above is confirmed.
All reservations made prior to today don't have the resort fee.
If you still want to make use of any of the services provided of the resort fee you pay either a la carte or you opt in for paying the full fee.

777 global mile hound Apr 2, 2015 12:25 pm


Originally Posted by exmike (Post 24606178)
Its incredible how far this property has fallen in year. I was pretty sure I would never return to this property, but now this resort fee BS seals the deal. Retroactive resort fee is total BS. About the most customer-unfriendly you could conjure up short of increasing the price of the room post-booking (which is essentially what it is). Time to bombard review sites with negative reports. Disgusting.

For Diamonds
Full breakfast --> pantry
Full spa access --> spa access one time access --> no spa access

For all
No resort fee --> retroactive exorbitant resort fee
Free canoe ride --> no longer free
Cash and points availability --> questionable availability
Compulsory rip off valet parking (unchanged)

Am I missing anything?

My understanding the hotel has been approved by Hyatt to not offer Cash and Points at all going forward.
Downgraded Diamond breakfast benefit with more limited options is the way I understood it
New added resort fee in June of $40 dollars per night
Parking fee I assume is pretty common and a profit center for hotels
I'm planning to go and have a great time with my best foot forwad and write my own review after the stay
Fingers crossed:eek:

1fan Apr 2, 2015 12:48 pm

Just finished a 11 day stay 7 days P & C 4 days $600 a night with DSU
-Nicest suite upgrade we have ever had its a $600 a night vaule here
-Breakfast better than most all Hyatts I have stayed except Park Hyatt New York the --view is great paid $21 for one waffle once wont do that again
-$30 valet Its a $1250 a night retail suite who cares its the same everwhere in Wailea.
-$40 retroactive resort fee is crap but Im surprised there wasnt one before.

Even with all the changes what is a better deal for a suite thats easy to get in the Hyatt system?

sam_goh Apr 2, 2015 1:05 pm


Originally Posted by 1fan (Post 24606786)
Just finished a 11 day stay 7 days P & C 4 days $600 a night with DSU

Even with all the changes what is a better deal for a suite thats easy to get in the Hyatt system?

Except you can't get that deal anymore since points and cash went away.

777 global mile hound Apr 2, 2015 1:23 pm


Originally Posted by 1fan (Post 24606786)
Just finished a 11 day stay 7 days P & C 4 days $600 a night with DSU
-Nicest suite upgrade we have ever had its a $600 a night vaule here
-Breakfast better than most all Hyatts I have stayed except Park Hyatt New York the --view is great paid $21 for one waffle once wont do that again
-$30 valet Its a $1250 a night retail suite who cares its the same everwhere in Wailea.
-$40 retroactive resort fee is crap but Im surprised there wasnt one before.

Even with all the changes what is a better deal for a suite thats easy to get in the Hyatt system?

Great to hear!
You are making me less concerned about my stay!
I'll reserve comments till after my stay @ Andaz Maui.The folks I have been in touch with there seem remarkable
but Park Hyatt Vienna had real wow factor to me with suite upgrades unlike Park Hyatt New York which I thought was attractive but below average in many ways.
Even the non suites were lovely at Park Hyatt Vienna

Astrophsx Apr 2, 2015 2:05 pm

They were offering a free photo shoot... They should add that to the list.

You can avoid the $30 valet fee by parking at the hotel during the day and moving your car about a 8 minute beach stroll away.

prostaff95 Apr 2, 2015 3:40 pm

From this link: http://maui.andaz.hyatt.com/en/hotel...ee-policy.html, I don't see where it says the resort fee will only apply to reservations going forward. Where do you see that? Thank you.


Originally Posted by Biggie Fries (Post 24606241)
Look on the website right now ... they seem to have backtracked somewhat -- resort fee will only apply to reservations made as of today forward


Rusikusa Apr 2, 2015 4:51 pm

I have C&P with DSU stay in August and looks like they added $40 resort fee to my rate!

canyonleo Apr 2, 2015 6:16 pm


Originally Posted by todorovic (Post 24604816)
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Yes. However, the fact you're on an award stay won't take care of the parking fees

I don't valet, haven't in 30+ years since my transmission dropped while a valet was driving it, and my mechanic's response to my asking if it was the driver's (valet's) fault was "eh, who knows".

beachfan Apr 2, 2015 6:41 pm


Originally Posted by 1fan (Post 24606786)
-$30 valet Its a $1250 a night retail suite who cares its the same everwhere in Wailea.

Not true - Fairmont Kea Lani includes self parking in it's $30 resort fee. Mandatory valet $40 fee plus mandatory resort fee = $70 per day is crazy.

hailstorm Apr 2, 2015 7:07 pm


Originally Posted by prostaff95 (Post 24607669)
From this link: http://maui.andaz.hyatt.com/en/hotel...ee-policy.html, I don't see where it says the resort fee will only apply to reservations going forward. Where do you see that? Thank you.

It's not unusual for a Hyatt hotel website's info to lag far behind it's actual current policy.

Football Fan Apr 2, 2015 7:12 pm


Originally Posted by exmike (Post 24606178)
Its incredible how far this property has fallen in year. I was pretty sure I would never return to this property, but now this resort fee BS seals the deal. Retroactive resort fee is total BS. About the most customer-unfriendly you could conjure up short of increasing the price of the room post-booking (which is essentially what it is). Time to bombard review sites with negative reports. Disgusting.

For Diamonds
Full breakfast --> pantry
Full spa access --> spa access one time access --> no spa access

Wait...they are not giving Diamonds spa access? Sorry, I haven't followed the whole thread. This sounds ridiculous?!

hailstorm Apr 2, 2015 7:31 pm


Originally Posted by exmike (Post 24606178)
Its incredible how far this property has fallen in year. I was pretty sure I would never return to this property, but now this resort fee BS seals the deal. Retroactive resort fee is total BS. About the most customer-unfriendly you could conjure up short of increasing the price of the room post-booking (which is essentially what it is). Time to bombard review sites with negative reports. Disgusting.

For Diamonds
Full breakfast --> pantry
Full spa access --> spa access one time access --> no spa access

For all
No resort fee --> retroactive exorbitant resort fee
Free canoe ride --> no longer free
Cash and points availability --> questionable availability
Compulsory rip off valet parking (unchanged)

Am I missing anything?

I am not sure that it's correct to say that "the property" has fallen, since everything that was good about this place is still available. But I can't recall any property raising the prices on so many different aspects of the experience in such a short time as this one has.

Biggie Fries Apr 2, 2015 7:36 pm


Originally Posted by prostaff95 (Post 24607669)
From this link: http://maui.andaz.hyatt.com/en/hotel...ee-policy.html, I don't see where it says the resort fee will only apply to reservations going forward. Where do you see that? Thank you.

I see it when I
  • log-in as a GP member
  • click on the offer that appears at the top for 15% off Hawai`i bookings
  • put in some dates to make a booking
It shows up under Rooms and Rates.

I'm sure you could get to it without some of those steps, but that's how I see it.

exmike Apr 2, 2015 7:37 pm


Originally Posted by Football Fan (Post 24608526)
Wait...they are not giving Diamonds spa access? Sorry, I haven't followed the whole thread. This sounds ridiculous?!

I guess I should say complimentary access

Football Fan Apr 2, 2015 7:42 pm


Originally Posted by exmike (Post 24608636)
I guess I should say complimentary access

I have never been to any Hyatt brand hotel where I did not receive complimentary spa access as a diamond member. And I have been to about 60 of them.

PortlySpartacus Apr 2, 2015 8:48 pm


Originally Posted by Football Fan (Post 24608662)
I have never been to any Hyatt brand hotel where I did not receive complimentary spa access as a diamond member. And I have been to about 60 of them.

I have been a Diamond member for about 2 years now and I have never heard of this complimentary spa access for diamonds......

The Hyatt website doesn't list this as a diamond benefit, is this some type of un-written rule of diamond membership? How do you know if you will be charged or not?

exmike Apr 2, 2015 8:50 pm


Originally Posted by Football Fan (Post 24608662)
I have never been to any Hyatt brand hotel where I did not receive complimentary spa access as a diamond member. And I have been to about 60 of them.

Welcome to the AndaZ!

hailstorm Apr 2, 2015 8:54 pm


Originally Posted by PortlySpartacus (Post 24608899)
I have been a Diamond member for about 2 years now and I have never heard of this complimentary spa access for diamonds......

The Hyatt website doesn't list this as a diamond benefit, is this some type of un-written rule of diamond membership? How do you know if you will be charged or not?

Ask them?

PortlySpartacus Apr 2, 2015 8:55 pm


Originally Posted by hailstorm (Post 24608921)
Ask them?

Brilliant! Will do.

Andaz Maui Apr 2, 2015 8:56 pm


Originally Posted by 777 global mile hound (Post 24606954)
Great to hear!
You are making me less concerned about my stay!
I'll reserve comments till after my stay @ Andaz Maui.The folks I have been in touch with there seem remarkable
but Park Hyatt Vienna had real wow factor to me with suite upgrades unlike Park Hyatt New York which I thought was attractive but below average in many ways.
Even the non suites were lovely at Park Hyatt Vienna

We're looking forward to welcoming you to our 'ohana!

Andaz Maui Apr 2, 2015 8:58 pm

Aloha! The resort fee is also not retroactive. Those who have current reservations will not be charged a resort fee. They can opt in to have full access, but that’s a personal decision. The program was announced yesterday for all reservations made after April 2nd. The resort fee will be applicable for stays after June 1.

Andaz Maui Apr 2, 2015 9:09 pm


Originally Posted by 777 global mile hound (Post 24604154)
I'm surprised quite frankly on a number of counts
First the property had no resort fees and now mandatory fees suddenly proposed
Second retroactive resort fees? I've never heard of that :rolleyes::td::confused:
Third its one thing to start out at $20 or $25 a night but $40? Really do I hear 75 a night down the road?
For a moment I thought it was an April Fools Joke

I certainly in my decades with Hyatt thought I have seen just about every good and bad examples of business behavior
but this takes the prize for real bad judgment in recent memory.
I'd highly question the legality from a lawyers perspective.
Would certainly not be the least bit surprised if the property gets sued for the non disclosed change to what essentially is a good faith written and agreed upon contract in advance.
It sure seems like the hotel is setting itself up. Hopefully the hotel consulted with a few Hyatt lawyers for their own sake/risk exposure

I booked two rooms on Cash and Points.
Just got in under the deadline for the new nuisance fee
My instinct says the policy is property driven with Hyatt going along with the bizarre policy to make the owners happy
at the expense of Hyatt's customers and typically wise decision making.
I heard the property is doing well so this is all the more surprising that they are taking it to the extreme

I'm trying to stay optimistic for my upcoming stay but starting to think I should have booked the older Hyatt which has never been confrontational with policies in my memories.
This is now two serious strikes IMHO
Hoping my stay goes much better than their obviously flawed policy making :eek:;)
I'm prepared to go to the Four Seasons or Fairmont if it doesn't go reasonably well.

Aloha,
Beginning today (April 2, 2015) for new reservations booked for travel from June 1, 2015 a resort fee of $40 per day will be added to the daily rate. As an Andaz we strive to listen to our guests and evolve to their needs and wants. Since opening in 2013 one of the comments we keep hearing is that people don’t want to be “nickle and dimed” throughout their stay. We want our guests to arrive a visitor and depart a local and we’re excited to launch a resort fee experience like no other. Guests won’t just get local calls and wifi, they’ll receive beach activities, cultural experiences, fitness classes and the tools to capture your Maui memories. We estimate the value at about $350+ per person, per day, if a guest takes advantage of the offerings (full list of inclusions can be seen here >> http://maui.andaz.hyatt.com/en/hotel...ee-policy.html.

The resort fee is also not retroactive. Those who have current reservations will not be charged a resort fee. They can opt in to have full access, but that’s a personal decision. We would never start a new program without full disclosure. The program was announced yesterday for all reservations made after April 2nd. The resort fee will be applicable for stays after June 1. I hope this helps clarify and we look forward to welcoming you to the resort!

obscure2k Apr 2, 2015 9:09 pm


Originally Posted by Andaz Maui (Post 24608936)
We're looking forward to welcoming you to our 'ohana!

Thank you for the Ohana welcome. One of my complaints is that no-one in reception ever mentioned that the Ohana Lounge was available. As we had to wait several hours until our room was ready, I really thought that this act of omission was a great dis-service. The Ohana Lounge is the perfect place to change into swim suits, freshen up, take a shower. There are even lockers. We found out about this very welcoming Ohana Lounge almost by accident. I believe it is one floor down from lobby level. It is a lovely lounge. Had we been notified during check in of this Lounge, we would have changed into our swimsuits and enjoyed 3 more hours in the sun at the glorious pools. I was there in February and am returning in September.

hailstorm Apr 2, 2015 9:32 pm


Originally Posted by obscure2k (Post 24608989)
Thank you for the Ohana welcome. One of my complaints is that no-one in reception ever mentioned that the Ohana Lounge was available. As we had to wait several hours until our room was ready, I really thought that this act of omission was a great dis-service. The Ohana Lounge is the perfect place to change into swim suits, freshen up, take a shower. There are even lockers. We found out about this very welcoming Ohana Lounge almost by accident. I believe it is one floor down from lobby level. It is a lovely lounge. Had we been notified during check in of this Lounge, we would have changed into our swimsuits and enjoyed 3 more hours in the sun at the glorious pools. I was there in February and am returning in September.

The only reason we found it was because we were staying in the pool suite very close by. A very neat little place to kick back in.

What I really wish they would have told us about were the free laundry facilities (at the time free...wouldn't be surprised if they charged for them now), which I only found out about by reading this thread during the last night of our stay, resulting in a mad rush to do laundry after 11pm.

hailstorm Apr 2, 2015 9:35 pm


Originally Posted by Andaz Maui (Post 24608944)
Aloha! The resort fee is also not retroactive. Those who have current reservations will not be charged a resort fee. They can opt in to have full access, but that’s a personal decision. The program was announced yesterday for all reservations made after April 2nd. The resort fee will be applicable for stays after June 1.

AFTER April 2nd. It's still April 2nd in Hawaii, so you all still have a few hours remaining to make a reservation without resort fees.

jepiv Apr 3, 2015 7:05 am


Originally Posted by Andaz Maui (Post 24608985)
Aloha,
Beginning today (April 2, 2015) for new reservations booked for travel from June 1, 2015 a resort fee of $40 per day will be added to the daily rate. As an Andaz we strive to listen to our guests and evolve to their needs and wants. Since opening in 2013 one of the comments we keep hearing is that people don’t want to be “nickle and dimed” throughout their stay. We want our guests to arrive a visitor and depart a local and we’re excited to launch a resort fee experience like no other. Guests won’t just get local calls and wifi, they’ll receive beach activities, cultural experiences, fitness classes and the tools to capture your Maui memories. We estimate the value at about $350+ per person, per day, if a guest takes advantage of the offerings (full list of inclusions can be seen here >> http://maui.andaz.hyatt.com/en/hotel...ee-policy.html.

The resort fee is also not retroactive. Those who have current reservations will not be charged a resort fee. They can opt in to have full access, but that’s a personal decision. We would never start a new program without full disclosure. The program was announced yesterday for all reservations made after April 2nd. The resort fee will be applicable for stays after June 1. I hope this helps clarify and we look forward to welcoming you to the resort!

Don't you mean OPT OUT?? Reservation was made in December 2014. How is this NOT retroactive??? **COUGH COUGH**

While it is just $40 for ukulele lessons, I'd rather spend the 23.5% increase in cost on sushi from Morimoto.

http://i.imgur.com/RD4hAsg.png

m0hamed Apr 3, 2015 7:46 am


Originally Posted by jepiv (Post 24610345)
Don't you mean OPT OUT?? Reservation was made in December 2014. How is this NOT retroactive??? **COUGH COUGH**

Can you read? They are saying for reservations already made you won't be charged, however you can opt in to take up the resort fee benefits if you wish.

canyonleo Apr 3, 2015 7:47 am


Originally Posted by Andaz Maui (Post 24608985)
Aloha,
Beginning today (April 2, 2015) for new reservations booked for travel from June 1, 2015 a resort fee of $40 per day will be added to the daily rate. As an Andaz we strive to listen to our guests and evolve to their needs and wants. Since opening in 2013 one of the comments we keep hearing is that people don’t want to be “nickle and dimed” throughout their stay. We want our guests to arrive a visitor and depart a local and we’re excited to launch a resort fee experience like no other. Guests won’t just get local calls and wifi, they’ll receive beach activities, cultural experiences, fitness classes and the tools to capture your Maui memories. We estimate the value at about $350+ per person, per day, if a guest takes advantage of the offerings (full list of inclusions can be seen here >> http://maui.andaz.hyatt.com/en/hotel...ee-policy.html.

The resort fee is also not retroactive. Those who have current reservations will not be charged a resort fee. They can opt in to have full access, but that’s a personal decision. We would never start a new program without full disclosure. The program was announced yesterday for all reservations made after April 2nd. The resort fee will be applicable for stays after June 1. I hope this helps clarify and we look forward to welcoming you to the resort!


Is opting out of the fee an option?

As a Diamond, I already receive free wifi, and as a guest I use none of the services covered by the fees (correct, I don't sit on the beach, at the pool, use the spa or fitness center, nor take advantage of any of the cultural options). I'm pretty much in the ocean all day (using my own scuba or snorkel gear) or driving to various activity locations around the island.

jepiv Apr 3, 2015 7:51 am


Originally Posted by m0hamed (Post 24610484)
Can you read? They are saying for reservations already made you won't be charged, however you can opt in to take up the resort fee benefits if you wish.

Yes. I can read. But if I have the choice to opt-in, it should not ALREADY be reflected in my PREVIOUSLY made reservation. Both Award Wallet and my Hyatt.com account show a NEW total. Meaning when I check in, I have to opt OUT. Can YOU read?

Football Fan Apr 3, 2015 8:21 am


Originally Posted by jepiv (Post 24610516)
But if I have the choice to opt-in, it should not ALREADY be reflected in my PREVIOUSLY made reservation. Both Award Wallet and my Hyatt.com account show a NEW total. Meaning when I check in, I have to opt OUT.

Agreed, the burden for arguing this should not be on you. As the system automatically shows that you have to pay it, you will have to argue with them and explain to them that you made the reservation before they introduced this rip-off fee, which you should not have to.

On another note, regarding the breakfast, is my understanding correct that one can upgrade to the full (unlimited) breakfast for $ 17 more per person?

We will be checking in tomorrow and I am curious whether they indeed have botched it with the suite upgrade, as the reservation seems to indicate when I open it on goldpassport.com.

It used to have the description for the Partial Oceanview Suite, for which I have a confirmation e-mail, confirming my Diamond Suite Upgrade.

Now it reads "Room Description: Here views of Maui's eternal mountain landmark greet you from your private balcony...", which is the description for the most basic room.

canyonleo Apr 3, 2015 8:56 am


Originally Posted by Football Fan (Post 24610674)

We will be checking in tomorrow and I am curious whether they indeed have botched it with the suite upgrade, as the reservation seems to indicate when I open it on goldpassport.com.

Why worry about it, instead of doing something about it? I would call the front office / rooms manager tonight and discuss how they manage the block... and again call in the morning to confirm you've been blocked correctly.

Gold Passport Concierge Apr 3, 2015 9:01 am

Good Morning Flyer Talkers!

There's been a lot of conversation around the resort fee implementation at Andaz Maui at Wailea, and we wanted to take this opportunity to clarify some misinformation. The hotel is not applying a Resort Fee retroactively. A Resort Fee will be applied to any new reservations booked beginning April 2, 2015 for arrival after June 1, 2015.

If the reservation was booked April 1, 2015 or earlier, a resort fee will not apply, however, the guest will have the option to opt in and pay the Rresort Fee, which will give the guest access hotels amenities, including GoPro gear, Outrigger excursion, snorkel rental, yoga and pilates classes, bike rental, kayak rental, and more. For more information on the Resort Fee, please visit the hotel's website. We look forward to welcoming you to Andaz Maui at Wailea!

Thanks!

Football Fan Apr 3, 2015 9:54 am


Originally Posted by canyonleo (Post 24610858)
Why worry about it, instead of doing something about it?

I am not worried. I like the suspense ;).

canyonleo Apr 3, 2015 10:01 am


Originally Posted by Football Fan (Post 24611169)
I am not worried. I like the suspense ;).

Correct, bad wording on my part... "why be uncertain about it..." :)

WheelsFirst Apr 3, 2015 10:57 am

Please let us know if anyone opts-in for the resort fee, lol

jepiv Apr 3, 2015 11:49 am

I, personally, am pretty over this topic. So I'll just add one more thing. My rate went up today...again! This time a measly $12 or so. I call this the "We wanted to sneak this resort fee past you and and you ruined it" Tax.

http://i.imgur.com/1Ig1tsg.png

freeloader Apr 3, 2015 12:50 pm


Originally Posted by Andaz Maui (Post 24608985)
Aloha,
Beginning today (April 2, 2015) for new reservations booked for travel from June 1, 2015 a resort fee of $40 per day will be added to the daily rate. As an Andaz we strive to listen to our guests and evolve to their needs and wants. Since opening in 2013 one of the comments we keep hearing is that people don’t want to be “nickle and dimed” throughout their stay. We want our guests to arrive a visitor and depart a local and we’re excited to launch a resort fee experience like no other.

Well, if you are being honest, and your logic is correct, then all these existing reservations will see the value in the resort fee and opt-in, right? at least 50% should, if it truly is a value that guests desire and want.

And if the opt-in's are less then 50% isn't that an indication that people on average, DON'T want this fee/service? and if that's the case, will you be listening to that (as you listened to "nickel and dimed" comment), and stop the scam charges? if your statement above was honest, you would. but we all know it wasn't.

"resort fee experience" ... lol


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