New Hyatt Card Features
Sep 12, 2012, 1:54 pm
#31
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: CRP
Programs: UA 1K and 1MM, Hilton Gold, Hyatt Explorist, Marriott Gold, IHG Diamond
Posts: 300
No. I meant that if you want 10 qualifying nights, you can stay at a Hyatt 10 nights for far less than $40k. And since there's no other reason to spend on this card if you have a Sapphire Preferred (other than when you stay at a Hyatt), that negates the qualifying nights bonus.
Sep 12, 2012, 1:59 pm
#32
Join Date: May 2012
Location: HNL
Programs: AS MVPG, HA Plat
Posts: 1,268
The bonus stay/night credit is worthless if you have no plans to go for Diamond. Some incremental spend may get shifted to this card due to the new spending categories but on the whole, the changes just put them head to head against other cards that offer stronger benefits and returns.
Instead of restaurants, airlines and car rentals, I would have liked to have seen restaurants, gas and grocery stores. That would have been enough for me to shift some of my AMEX spend.
Instead of restaurants, airlines and car rentals, I would have liked to have seen restaurants, gas and grocery stores. That would have been enough for me to shift some of my AMEX spend.
Sep 12, 2012, 8:09 pm
#33
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: DEN
Programs: UA Gold-MM, AA Gold-MM, F9-Silver, Hyatt Something, Marriott Gold, IHG Plat, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 6,392
Can I be the first to say 'thanks Hyatt' from all your loyal members outside the US......
I'm starting to feel like the statues...
I'm starting to feel like the statues...
I still don't have this card, as it seems the only real value is the 2 free nights in a suite, and I haven't figured out an optimal use for them yet.
Overall, it seems like the FT crowd gives this at best a yawn, and perhaps a negative reaction. Where our modern Hyatt Homers telling us how great this is?
Sep 12, 2012, 8:32 pm
#34
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: NY
Programs: AA EXP / 2MM, Hyatt Glob, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 143
Do we know if the $20K/40K annual spend threshold for 5/10 nights status credit includes spend prior to this October 1 (the date the new features are launched, according to the announcement)? Obviously it would be the whole calendar year (Jan-Dec) in 2013, I just want to confirm if that is the same for 2012.
Sep 13, 2012, 12:25 am
#35
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: FLL/MIA
Programs: PC Platinum, Hyatt GP Diamond, Club Carlson Gold
Posts: 248
As many FTers pointed out, for most of us the only reason to hold on to Hyatt Card is the free annual night in a Category 4 or lower hotel.
Other than that, given the versatility of Chase Sapphire, this news is YAWN...
I feel like Chase is cannibalizing on its cards since they have so many... UA, Marriott, Southwest Airlines etc.
Other than that, given the versatility of Chase Sapphire, this news is YAWN...
I feel like Chase is cannibalizing on its cards since they have so many... UA, Marriott, Southwest Airlines etc.
Sep 13, 2012, 12:55 am
#36
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: California
Programs: Hyatt Global, Marriot Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 2,282
Sep 13, 2012, 1:13 am
#37
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: CRP
Programs: UA 1K and 1MM, Hilton Gold, Hyatt Explorist, Marriott Gold, IHG Diamond
Posts: 300
Well, kind of. If your goal is to get the most bang out of $40k spend, there are other cards that are better. For example, the Citi HHonors Reserve card gives you Diamand status outright for $40k spend, and gives better points per spend (even after considering HHonors points are worth less per point than GP points).
If you want 10 Hyatt qualifying nights, find a Hyatt Place for $100/night and get 10 nights there. You don't even have to actually stay there, just check-in, then check-out 10 days later. Then spend your remaining $39k using other more rewarding credit cards.
If you want 10 Hyatt qualifying nights, find a Hyatt Place for $100/night and get 10 nights there. You don't even have to actually stay there, just check-in, then check-out 10 days later. Then spend your remaining $39k using other more rewarding credit cards.
Sep 13, 2012, 9:19 am
#38
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: MSY
Posts: 83
I'll add to the general air of disappointment with these upgrades. I was pretty excited when the rumors started coming out about enhancements, but this is a non-issue. The card will still sit in the bottom of my sock drawer.
5 stay credits for $40k spending? That is pathetic. Hilton gives you top tear status with that much spending (along with better bonus categories on the amex card). SPG gives you 4 stay credits just for having the personal and business cards.
2 points on restaurants is nice...But I'd rather 2.14 UR points (Sapphire Preferred) or 5 Citi Thank You Points (Forward) - or really 5 UR points from IB/gift cards.
If Chase Hyatt had something like earn Diamond status with $50k spend, I'd seriously consider shifting that spend over to this card...Until then, not a penny.
5 stay credits for $40k spending? That is pathetic. Hilton gives you top tear status with that much spending (along with better bonus categories on the amex card). SPG gives you 4 stay credits just for having the personal and business cards.
2 points on restaurants is nice...But I'd rather 2.14 UR points (Sapphire Preferred) or 5 Citi Thank You Points (Forward) - or really 5 UR points from IB/gift cards.
If Chase Hyatt had something like earn Diamond status with $50k spend, I'd seriously consider shifting that spend over to this card...Until then, not a penny.
Sep 13, 2012, 10:50 pm
#39
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: AL
Programs: AA Plat Pro, DL Sil, UA Sil, Hyatt Global, MR Amb, Hilton Diamond, National Exec, Hertz Pres
Posts: 477
Sep 14, 2012, 9:23 am
#40
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: BRU, BE
Programs: LH, United, Hyatt, Air France
Posts: 464
Sep 15, 2012, 2:09 am
#41
Join Date: Jun 2010
Programs: Hyatt&Hilton&BW Diamond,GHA Black,Marriott Plat,SPG Gold,AB Platinum,TK Elite,AZ Alata Plus,EY Gold
Posts: 224
Dear FlyerTalkers,
We are excited to announce that on October 1st, we will launch two new features to the Hyatt Credit Card that will make everyday purchases and Hyatt stays even more rewarding for our cardmembers.
Cardmembers will earn 2 points for every $1 spent at restaurants, on airline tickets when purchased directly from the airline, and at car rental agencies. This is in addition to the current earning structure of 3 Hyatt Gold Passport points for every $1 spent at Hyatt properties worldwide and 1 Hyatt Gold Passport point for every $1 spent elsewhere.
Additionally, cardmembers will be able to earn and maintain Diamond status more easily by using the Hyatt Credit Card for all of their purchases as follows:
- Spend $20,000 annually and receive 2 stay / 5 night credits toward Diamond status
- Spend $40,000 annually and receive an additional 3 stay / 5 night credits (for a total of 5 stay and 10 night credits) toward Diamond status
These features were carefully developed based on Hyatt Gold Passport member feedback and research we conducted with our partner Chase. For more information, please visit http://www.hyatthotels.hyatt.com/newcreditcardfeatures.
We look forward to launching these features to help you earn more points and get closer to Diamond membership.
Safe travels,
Hyatt Gold Passport Concierge
We are excited to announce that on October 1st, we will launch two new features to the Hyatt Credit Card that will make everyday purchases and Hyatt stays even more rewarding for our cardmembers.
Cardmembers will earn 2 points for every $1 spent at restaurants, on airline tickets when purchased directly from the airline, and at car rental agencies. This is in addition to the current earning structure of 3 Hyatt Gold Passport points for every $1 spent at Hyatt properties worldwide and 1 Hyatt Gold Passport point for every $1 spent elsewhere.
Additionally, cardmembers will be able to earn and maintain Diamond status more easily by using the Hyatt Credit Card for all of their purchases as follows:
- Spend $20,000 annually and receive 2 stay / 5 night credits toward Diamond status
- Spend $40,000 annually and receive an additional 3 stay / 5 night credits (for a total of 5 stay and 10 night credits) toward Diamond status
These features were carefully developed based on Hyatt Gold Passport member feedback and research we conducted with our partner Chase. For more information, please visit http://www.hyatthotels.hyatt.com/newcreditcardfeatures.
We look forward to launching these features to help you earn more points and get closer to Diamond membership.
Safe travels,
Hyatt Gold Passport Concierge
GP concierge, come on, that's becoming more and more a slap in the face for non US residents. For us not residing in the US, the CC with points, promo extra points and now this inflation of Diamond member, it's a devaluation of Diamond status.
If there's no CC coming for at least major EU countries, I'm surely not the only one who will jump off because of this devaluation of non-US Diamond status.
At least a reply from GP concierge would be nice, as my representative at Hyatt Germany is no longer there...
Sep 16, 2012, 12:04 pm
#42
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: DFW
Programs: 2.4mm++ AA Plat, Hlt Diam, Hyt Globaist, Mrrt Gold, Gold Pts, MilesForDreams.com, etc.. etal..
Posts: 428
Sep 17, 2012, 12:57 pm
#43
Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Tucson, AZ USA
Programs: DL-Platinum / AS-PlatPro / Hyatt - Glob / Hilton-Diamond
Posts: 1,573
I'll give them some credit for realizing the card needs a little spicing up.
And personally, as someone who earns Diamond the "real" way, I'm glad the high spend only gives a "bump towards" Elite and not the status itself. IMHO, why should someone you can put a lot of Corporate spend on their card get the top hotel benefits.
Just another way of sayin' that for a HOTEL company, the emphasis should stay with the beds for sale and points sold to a credit card company
But, like so many others, these changes won't increase my spend on this card other than Hyatt stays. Sapphire still trumps this card on so many levels.
And personally, as someone who earns Diamond the "real" way, I'm glad the high spend only gives a "bump towards" Elite and not the status itself. IMHO, why should someone you can put a lot of Corporate spend on their card get the top hotel benefits.
Just another way of sayin' that for a HOTEL company, the emphasis should stay with the beds for sale and points sold to a credit card company
But, like so many others, these changes won't increase my spend on this card other than Hyatt stays. Sapphire still trumps this card on so many levels.
Sep 17, 2012, 4:30 pm
#44
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: California
Programs: Hyatt Global, Marriot Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 2,282
I don't understand the "Corporate" reference. Are you saying it would make a difference between whether the CC spend is on personal vs corporate spend? If so, I cannot imagine what that difference would be.
Sep 17, 2012, 5:16 pm
#45
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 126
Pretty sure the number of people who would theoretically become a Diamond from spending forty thousand dollars a year on a Credit Card (every year, no less) will be substantially less than the number of people who mattress run (and thus essentially dishonestly) their way to it.