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Park Hyatt Paris-Vendôme REVIEW - MASTER THREAD (Aug 2011 onward)

Old Apr 5, 2014, 7:57 pm
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I'm making this thread a wiki since there are issues that keep getting repeated (breakfast and transportation from/to CDG). Feel free to add whatever you feel is important - stick to facts of please and not one off exceptions (eg if you get an upgrade to the Presidential Suite on an award stay without any status - that's definitely a one off that doesn't belong in the WIKI - obviously you can do a regular post on it).

Public transport to the hotel from CDG

The best option is to take the Roissy bus to Opera. From there, the hotel is about a 5 minute walk.

The next best option is to take RER B to Chatelet-Les Halles. All trains from Roissy/CDG head south into Paris so no worries there. Some go express all the way into Paris (Gare du Nord, so Chatelet-Les Halles is the second stop); others are locals, in which case there are a lot of stops; some are half-express, half-local ... but all stop at Chatelet-Les Halles; and there is no point waiting for an express because it is rare if ever that an express will overtake a local. So get on whatever comes first. At Chatelet-Les Halles, transfer to RER A for one stop to Auber (which is joined to Opera station). You will be heading westbound, toward the termini St. Germain-en-Laye/Poissy/Cergny. You have to go up the stairs and back down for the Auber-bound train. Do not race across the platform for the RER B because that will be heading eastbound, to Gare de Lyon, Nation, Vincennes (and, depending on which one you get on, eventually Eurodisney!) The walk from the Auber exit closest to the RER stop takes about 10 minutes.

Public transport to the hotel from Orly

Take the Orlyval train to its end at Antony, then switch to RER B to Chatelet-Les-Halles and continue as above. In this case you can just cross the platform from the RER B to get the RER A headed to Auber.

Breakfast

The breakfast at Cafe Jeanne is free for Globalist members but is 40-50 euros per person otherwise. A modified but still very good version of this buffet breakfast is also available in the room and is also free for Globalists. Tips are not covered but then again the theory in France is that the service charge is in the price.

Museum tickets & pass from the concierge

You can buy "skip the line" tickets to the Louvre or Orsay for 18€ each, which is higher than the regular tickets via the Louvre & Orsay websites. But being able to "skip the line" obviously adds some value. They will also sell you the two day Paris Museum Pass for 55€. That is a 7€ markup.

Phone/data recommendations:
Lebara worked really well for me. What you need to do:
• You must unlock your phone (you can do this for free online with ATT through their website if you are out of contract)
• Order free SIM card at Lebara.fr a few weeks before your trip. I don’t think it took more than 2 weeks for my SIM card to arrive
• Activate SIM card at https://www.lebara.fr/activate-sim-detail?isoCode=en_GB or search “activate SIM” at Lebara.fr
• Load your SIM card with what you need. I paid 10 euro for 3G of data, unlimited SMS and local calls for 10 days (this should be plenty for most tourists)
LeFrench Mobile did not work so well for me: I paid 20-30 euro for local and international calls for my sister but was only able to make local calls and SMS

restaurant recommendations:
Nearby:
(We're here on 1 Oct 2021 and it appears this restaurant is closed permanently ...) Le Cap Bourbon- good, inexpensive, our server was nice and attentive (by French standards), great local crowd, menu has English translation
We ate a local Thai restaurant - Yo - its about a 5 minute walk from the hotel and very busy. I had a guinea fowl green curry - a first for me. Very good food and friendly service.

Other:
L'Avant Comptoir is a wine bar with great,relatively cheap eats and a great atmosphere and friendly, English-speaking staff. Standing room only and tight.


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Park Hyatt Paris-Vendôme REVIEW - MASTER THREAD (Aug 2011 onward)

Old Jan 31, 2021, 10:05 am
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You know since Claudio took over a few years ago frankly PHV is just not the same which is surprising since he ran the mirror property in Milan which is where I got to know him. Shame I do think contrary to your comment if you book paying then two nights awards your chances are pretty good.
I think the problems proceeded Claudio too.
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I would book the room you want and not count on this property to do anything above and beyond what they are required to do for you - if they even do that. Unless you are a returning, cash paying Glob, getting a suite (even the junior suite this property calls their standard suite) without using an upgrade instrument is unlikely.
I am a returning guest (I've stayed 3 times prior & have a loose connection with Cecile, the guest relations manager) so I was going to reach out directly to my contact once we've booked to let her know we're coming.
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Old Jan 31, 2021, 11:20 am
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I think the problems proceeded Claudio too.
I had great hopes years ago when he was named to the PHV from the Martinez, his management of the Milan property was superb and he was bringing his number 2 from Milan with him however it seems to have turn south. I know they had labor issues and a property that was in disrepair there is so much perfume one can spray in the hallways !!!! Not sure if you noticed but most of the fabled wait staff left. We had two stays after Claudia returned then went elsewhere. In the past we averaged two stays annually one Christmas and one in summer. If one wants the Opera area then the Marriott Opera is a great choice as is the Westin.
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Originally Posted by edgewood49
I had great hopes years ago when he was named to the PHV from the Martinez, his management of the Milan property was superb and he was bringing his number 2 from Milan with him however it seems to have turn south. I know they had labor issues and a property that was in disrepair there is so much perfume one can spray in the hallways !!!! Not sure if you noticed but most of the fabled wait staff left. We had two stays after Claudia returned then went elsewhere. In the past we averaged two stays annually one Christmas and one in summer. If one wants the Opera area then the Marriott Opera is a great choice as is the Westin.
Speaking of their fabled wait staff, one of them, Javier, left to open his own restaurant a few years ago - Avli. A Google search suggests it's quite good according to the reviews on various sites.
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Old Feb 2, 2021, 5:53 pm
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Speaking of their fabled wait staff, one of them, Javier, left to open his own restaurant a few years ago - Avli. A Google search suggests it's quite good according to the reviews on various sites.
Thanks I knew that and its on our list to do when we return again, sooner than later I hope. Their bartenders were some of the best around as well. I miss sitting at the bar in the late afternoon after business having a martini and reading the paper.
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Looks like the standard rate has moved from EUR800+ toEUR650 (and less for members or with 3nd night free offer)?
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Oops. That is the Intercontinental next to the Opera House.
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wow Claudio what have you done ?
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Someone is getting fired in the morning.
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Someone is getting fired in the morning.
Doubt it the unions are too big in Europe especially France who is a very socialistic society. Frankly it is emblematic of the slow slide downward of the PHV.
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Originally Posted by edgewood49
Doubt it the unions are too big in Europe especially France who is a very socialistic society. Frankly it is emblematic of the slow slide downward of the PHV.
Yes, the reason why the PHV isn't what it once was is because of socialism.
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Doubt it the unions are too big in Europe especially France who is a very socialistic society. Frankly it is emblematic of the slow slide downward of the PHV.
Definitely shows a lack of pride or consideration.

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Originally Posted by Aventine
Definitely shows a lack of pride or consideration.
Claudio and I go back to the days at the MPH and then Martinez before PHV. Something happened along the way because what I thought PHV would become under Claudio did not happen, rather a downward spiral, slow but still.I have not stayed at the PHV for a few years now, sans Covid rather going elsewhere after my last stay. I was given the worse possible room and yes I have status when asked about it they that was all they had which if we had known we would have gone elsewhere.
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Originally Posted by edgewood49
Doubt it the unions are too big in Europe especially France who is a very socialistic society. Frankly it is emblematic of the slow slide downward of the PHV.
You should obviously write a book on French politics, you have so much knowledge to offer.

PS The US has significantly higher trade Union membership than France. Not that it has any impact on service levels at a random hotel:
https://www.nationmaster.com/country...ion-membership
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You should obviously write a book on French politics, you have so much knowledge to offer.

PS The US has significantly higher trade Union membership than France. Not that it has any impact on service levels at a random hotel:
https://www.nationmaster.com/country...ion-membership
don't really want to get off-topic and into this discussion, just one remark, that I don't trust the source. Switzerland can definitley not be higher in the ranking than France.
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