travelbugging

DP: Points from current collection promo for WOH cardholders posted a day shy of 2 wks from checkout.

coleslaw

Based on Q2's results released today, I wouldn't be expecting a lucrative promotion anytime soon.

Alex_I

- I think the major factor is not the past performance but rather future bookings and only Hyatt knows that.

Matt4200

Future Bookings are meaningless I’d hazard a guess that over the last 2 years Hyatt has a cancellation rate above 70%. (70% of bookings made have been cancelled is what I’m saying).

What matters it’s actual stays rather than bookings and hoping that those actually come through, especially with 95% of properties having a 24-72 hour cancellation period prior to the stay.

Alex_I

- Right, what I mean is the projected stays based on booking activity. That is easy to program as long as you have access to the historic data for booking and cancellation. Of course, over the last 5 years pandemic caused abnormal % of cancellations but hopefully we are getting back to per-pandemic statistics. The second quarter ended > 1 month ago and what is important is the current trend.

Matt4200

I would not expect normal activity and data until mid 2023.

Why?

1) The Pandemic

2) Peak/Off Peak - People are still learning the ins and outs of it, many people booked prospectively through I believe April 2023 was the latest you could book prior to its actual launch. So many people booked WAYYYYYY ahead in order to avoid potential peak pricing stays in many months all through April 2023.

3) Category Changes people booking prospectively to avoid negative impact of category changes.

4) The recently declared recession being made official which has many many chain reactions.

5) Very long cancellation windows.

All of these may cause massive fluctuations in bookings and may cause mass cancellations.

Which is why I don’t think you or Hyatt will get a good picture of any of the true data and outlook until about next summer at the earliest.

Dr Jabadski

Current Hyatt Promotion Point of Order Public Service Announcement: Regarding Hyatt’s current AA miles promotion, reiterating (mainly for the unsuspecting) something that was discussed here 8-9 months ago. The way Hyatt chooses to display WOH points and AA miles is confusing and misleading. I was reminded a day or 2 ago when I was again confused (fortunately this time only momentarily ). It’s not a lot of miles but it’s important to anyone who closely tracks and/or monitors their FF points and miles and it’s enough to throw off spreadsheet numbers. And it’s quite annoying to the obsessive in me .

Using the numbers in the image below (WOH activity) as an example, actual earnings are 4,449 WOH points and 1,000 AA miles. “Stay Points earned” (top of image) and “Total Points / Miles” (bottom of image) are actually the total of WOH points plus AA miles. “AA Cities 1K Miles Offer” under “Points earned” is not WOH points earned, it is AA miles earned.

IMLE (IME + limited) the “AA Cities 1K Miles Offer” miles post to AA as “Hyatt Dual Accrual” on the same date as the other “Hyatt Dual Accrual” posting for the stay (1 mile per $ at Hyatt for eligible elites), on the first Tuesday (midday) after a Hyatt checkout of more than 3-4 days ago, second following Tuesday for checkouts on Sat/Sun/Mon.

(BTW FWIW, I still love the breakfast buffet at Hyatt Regency LAX which includes among other things: my favorite fruits (those which have been cut into bite sized pieces by someone else) every day, all the unsalty smoked salmon one can eat every day, all the tasty bacon one can eat every day, all the ingredients for healthy unsalted trail mix every day, and very friendly servers some of whom have been there for years and remember my ATF breakfast beverage (iced decaf coffee) from one stay to the next. Only gripes are regular yogurt (vice Greek) and bagels which aren’t nearly as tasty as NY bagels … but I guess that’s true for almost ALL other bagels, apparently has to do with the water !)

coleslaw

Yes, this is the standard for all of the AA promotions. It is confusing if you only look at the headline number.

Dr Jabadski

(Second paragraph of my post above #1432 was edited/corrected after it was quoted in post #1433, it is incorrect as written in the quote.) Agreed, still a potential point of confusion for a WOH and/or AA nugget*.

It’s confusing/misleading in several ways:
- the headline (presumably “Stay Points earned”) number (implies WOH points but is in fact WOH points plus AA miles),
- “AA Cities 1K Miles Offer” under “Points earned” (implies WOH points earned but is in fact AA miles earned),
- “Total Points / Miles” (implies total WOH points but is in fact WOH points plus AA miles),
- “Total Points / Miles” (implies also a sum of individual point and mile postings but there’s no other posting clearly listed as miles).

(*: Nugget - brand-new naval aviator just received wings of gold currently in advanced flight training OR first-tour naval aviator OR “FNG”.)

coleslaw

The "Rate Information" for this specific rate seems to vary. Most I've seen have used much broader descriptions of what constitutes an "essential traveller".

josephstern

New Bonus Journeys - can't believe it. Basically, double points.

https://www.businesswire.com/news/ho...o-Ways-to-Earn

Not the strongest, but it's something. Register by November 15

ElevatorEnthusiast

Ugh, the double nights is only at all-inclusive properties - got excited for no reason. Double points is better than nothing, but I can't see myself changing my one-night stays to two-night stays. Would rather see more hotels than trying to optimize for a promo.

Oh, well, I'm sure some will be excited.

Seagull689

is it safe(er) to say this is it for promotions for 2022 now?

danger

Bonus Journeys is back.

With the return of the World of Hyatt Bonus Journeys offer, members can double their earnings and make the most of their upcoming stays through the end of the year. Starting today through November 15, 2022, World of Hyatt members can register for Bonus Journeys to maximize earnings in two ways:

• Double Points: Members can earn double points on qualifying stays of two (2) or more nights at over 1,100 participating Hyatt hotels globally, including MGM Resort destinations, Small Luxury Hotels of the World (SLH) hotels and Lindblad Expeditions for stays completed between September 15 and December 20, 2022.
• Nights Count Double: Along with Double Points, for the first time, each Tier-Qualifying Night completed on eligible stays at more than 65 participating Inclusive Collection properties in the Americas will count as two nights toward World of Hyatt status instead of one for stays completed between September 15 and December 20, 2022. Members can experience one of the world’s largest portfolios of all-inclusive resort brands and take advantage of Bonus Journeys in destinations such as Mexico, Costa Rica, Panama, the Caribbean and more.

https://newsroom.hyatt.com/news-releases?item=124276

coleslaw

I’m pleasantly surprised they’re running a double points promo.