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uanj Jul 21, 2021 9:31 am


Originally Posted by shd9 (Post 33424439)
Tourism industry? I am not sure. But right now mainland tourists are also not able to travel to HK at all. If I understand correctly according to the current rules, only HK residents and people with visas longer than 14 days (HK travel permit for mainland people only allow 7 days) can enter HK from the Mainland / Macau.


Originally Posted by garykung (Post 33424691)
Not exactly. In practice - only Hong Kong residents (including those who hold a visa that lasts longer than 6 months) are allowed to enter Hong Kong. MPS adopted a non-issuance policy on Two-way permits, which makes no mainlander can enter Hong Kong.

I don't know how the rules are written, but US citizens coming from China can still enter HK if they wish to quarantine (without the special permission being given to select business people) and perhaps this would apply to other nationalities. From the US Consulate in HK:

Are U.S. citizens permitted to enter? Yes, if they fall into one of the categories listed below.
  • U.S. citizens with Hong Kong residency, diplomats, and U.S. citizens who have been present in mainland China, Macau, Australia or New Zealand uninterruptedly for the past 14 days are permitted to enter Hong Kong.
COVID-19 Information | U.S. Consulate General Hong Kong & Macau (usconsulate.gov)

But I don't think anything will change until quarantine rules are relaxed.

realgaga Jul 22, 2021 5:58 am


Originally Posted by uanj (Post 33425722)
I don't know how the rules are written, but US citizens coming from China can still enter HK if they wish to quarantine (without the special permission being given to select business people) and perhaps this would apply to other nationalities. From the US Consulate in HK:

Are U.S. citizens permitted to enter? Yes, if they fall into one of the categories listed below.
  • U.S. citizens with Hong Kong residency, diplomats, and U.S. citizens who have been present in mainland China, Macau, Australia or New Zealand uninterruptedly for the past 14 days are permitted to enter Hong Kong.
COVID-19 Information | U.S. Consulate General Hong Kong & Macau (usconsulate.gov)

But I don't think anything will change until quarantine rules are relaxed.

Foreign citizens were always allowed to enter HK (as per normal visa rules) since the beginning of the pandemic if they only stayed in mainland China, Macao SAR (and previously Taiwan) as long as they home quarantine.

uanj Jul 22, 2021 9:50 pm


Originally Posted by realgaga (Post 33427912)
Foreign citizens were always allowed to enter HK (as per normal visa rules) since the beginning of the pandemic if they only stayed in mainland China, Macao SAR (and previously Taiwan) as long as they home quarantine.

Yes, that is what I was thinking. The real issue is anyone starting from outside the permitted areas will have multiple quarantines to go through, provided they can first enter one of the permitted areas (Australia, NZ, Mainland and Macau).

889 Jul 23, 2021 10:13 pm

Shorter quarantine for vaccinated travelers who pass an airport antibody test is off the agenda for now, says SCMP.

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...gtype=homepage

exp Jul 24, 2021 2:35 am

Vaccination centers full.

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...-bookings-soar

4 to 1 demand for Pfizer over Sinovac.

But pace is for 70% with at least one shot by October.

Seems it should be faster.

Visconti Jul 25, 2021 10:44 am


Originally Posted by 889 (Post 33433046)
Shorter quarantine for vaccinated travelers who pass an airport antibody test is off the agenda for now, says SCMP.

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...gtype=homepage

Incredibly frustrating. It's as if we're in this groundhog day of one step forward and two steps back.

tentseller Jul 25, 2021 6:40 pm


Originally Posted by 889 (Post 33433046)
Shorter quarantine for vaccinated travelers who pass an airport antibody test is off the agenda for now, says SCMP.

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...gtype=homepage

It is a delay of two more weeks for the implementation as there are issue of taking the blood sample and the logistics of getting it from HKIA to the lab in HK traffic and weather.

889 Jul 26, 2021 12:01 am

So you think that once the airport lab is set in August sometime, entry of fully-vaccinated non-residents from at least some countries will be back on track for later implementation? Is the Chinese press reporting this?

maalloc Jul 26, 2021 2:31 am


Originally Posted by 889 (Post 33437824)
entry of fully-vaccinated non-residents from at least some countries will be back on track for later implementation

With no timeframe provided, it sure is. As it has been for the past 18 months.
When we see what happened to the sad attempts at travel bubbles, with all their logistics and press coverage, don't hold your breath for something that was vaguely announced without any specifics.

It certainly is on track. It's probably going to be for a long time.

889 Aug 2, 2021 6:15 am

Well, after seeming to shut the door on the plan to allow vaccinated non-residents to enter Hong Kong a couple weeks ago, the CE re-opened it today. The plan will apparently apply to non-residents coming from medium- and low-risk countries under a new tiering system, details of which weren't announced.

We will of course have to wait for the full details and timing. And hope this doesn't turn out to be another always-delayed Singapore Travel Bubble.

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...sses-expected?

maalloc Aug 2, 2021 8:07 am

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/ea...fection-record

The Straits Times seem even more optimistic in its description. Anyone heard of a timeframe though ?

tentseller Aug 2, 2021 8:04 pm

Government press release of CE announcement:
https://www.info.gov.hk/gia/general/...uNA6MwstFG-nAo

889 Aug 2, 2021 8:25 pm

There it is in black-and-white with all the details: starting Monday August 9, vaccinated nonresidents coming from the new B group of countries will be able to enter HK on the same basis as residents. The new group B apparently will include the US and other countries in the current high- and medium-risk groups. At least until they start shifting countries around down the road.

There's a 14-day quarantine and no provision for shortening it to 7 days based on a positive antibody test at the airport. Is this temporary and simply because the airport testing facility won't be operational by next Monday?

tentseller Aug 2, 2021 8:32 pm


Originally Posted by 889 (Post 33459315)
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There's a 14-day quarantine and no provision for shortening it to 7 days based on a positive antibody test at the airport. Is this temporary and simply because the airport testing facility won't be operational by next Monday?

As per the wording of the ORIGINAL government announcement June 24 regarding this 7 days quarantine antibody test:
"Only tests from approved HK labs in the proper format accepted"
"There is a plan to set up HKIA arrival antibody sample collection for sometime in July"
Updated from July 24:
"There is a delay in the implementation of a further 2 weeks"

889 Aug 2, 2021 8:53 pm

Yes, I just thought it odd the latest announcement didn't say anything about airport testing.

It's also a bit confusing whether only vaccination records from WHO "stringent authority" countries will be accepted. The announcement specifically mentions this requirement only in connection with vaccinated residents coming from the new high-risk A group of countries.

Edit: Here's the Government chart of the new rules. Looking at the footnotes it appears the "stringent authority" rule does only apply to those coming from new Group A countries.

https://gia.info.gov.hk/general/2021...82.pdf?noembed


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