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889 Jan 26, 2020 9:02 pm

It's not just spread of the virus that's a concern.

There's also a concern that if the epidemic widens on the Mainland, people there who are ill -- with any disease -- will flock to Hong Kong for care rather than risk entering a Mainland hospital. That could easily swamp the territory's medical facilities.

My own suspicion is that the Government's hand will be forced at some point and much stronger measures will be introduced.

1readyset2go Jan 26, 2020 9:25 pm

Fortunately we will be coming from the US and do not have any stops in mainland China. I just hope really drastic measures are not taken and we end up not being allowed to leave HGK on Feb12 for our flight to MNL. We will only have to transit thru the HKG airport on the return. I will get N95 masks. Personally I am a little concerned, but not enough to keep me away. It takes an awful lot to scare me.

LapLap Jan 26, 2020 11:56 pm


Originally Posted by 1readyset2go (Post 31998375)
Fortunately we will be coming from the US and do not have any stops in mainland China. I just hope really drastic measures are not taken and we end up not being allowed to leave HGK on Feb12 for our flight to MNL.

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
I ran the link posted in the Chinese forum thread through translation software and it appears Hong Kong are readying themselves for a spike or peak of cases around the 10th February as this is when many people will be returning to/from mainland China en masse after the holidays.


Originally Posted by percysmith (Post 31996222)
CNA quoted Wuhan's mayor

Apple Daily repeated the quote https://s.nextmedia.com/realtime/a.p...096&a=60524304


tentseller Jan 27, 2020 8:57 am


Originally Posted by LapLap (Post 31998639)
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.
I ran the link posted in the Chinese forum thread through translation software and it appears Hong Kong are readying themselves for a spike or peak of cases around the 10th February as this is when many people will be returning to/from mainland China en masse after the holidays.

Feb 2 and 9 will be the major post CNY travel return dates for people returning to work. If anything major breaks in HK it will be after these two dates.

Let's HOPE that the present authorities have learned from 2003 Sars and their recent errors in judgments and act accordingly.

ranles Jan 27, 2020 11:19 am

Okay, we are worried. Routing SAN-LAX-HKG-DPS, departing 8PM Feb 3. Taking a Bali visit and cruise out of Benoa. You crystal ball readers...what is the chance in this remaining week that this routing will not be allowed (China, CDC, USA)? Booking thru Regent Seven Seas. We are 75, but our main concern is being locked our of our trip, or worse, locked into HKG indefinitely! We are checking some other routing, but are not in control. Most go thru TPE, perhaps a worse choice. A couple others thru NRT/SIN are tight connections.

At least we have some options, like cancel our 45th anniversary trip...we do feel sorry for those caught up in this mess in China. We pray for them that this is not any bigger that "normal". PS, the cruise is to and partway around Australia...they have their issues now as well.

STS-134 Jan 27, 2020 12:19 pm


Originally Posted by ranles (Post 32000434)
Okay, we are worried. Routing SAN-LAX-HKG-DPS, departing 8PM Feb 3. Taking a Bali visit and cruise out of Benoa. You crystal ball readers...what is the chance in this remaining week that this routing will not be allowed (China, CDC, USA)? Booking thru Regent Seven Seas. We are 75, but our main concern is being locked our of our trip, or worse, locked into HKG indefinitely! We are checking some other routing, but are not in control. Most go thru TPE, perhaps a worse choice. A couple others thru NRT/SIN are tight connections.

At least we have some options, like cancel our 45th anniversary trip...we do feel sorry for those caught up in this mess in China. We pray for them that this is not any bigger that "normal". PS, the cruise is to and partway around Australia...they have their issues now as well.

In a situation that keeps changing daily, a week is a long time from now.

nk15 Jan 27, 2020 12:38 pm

This is the problem with HKG being such a pivotal hub for SE Asia, anything happens it will be a major choke point to the regional air traffic.

CIT85 Jan 27, 2020 2:50 pm


Originally Posted by ranles (Post 32000434)
Okay, we are worried. Routing SAN-LAX-HKG-DPS, departing 8PM Feb 3. Taking a Bali visit and cruise out of Benoa. You crystal ball readers...what is the chance in this remaining week that this routing will not be allowed (China, CDC, USA)? Booking thru Regent Seven Seas. We are 75, but our main concern is being locked our of our trip, or worse, locked into HKG indefinitely! We are checking some other routing, but are not in control. Most go thru TPE, perhaps a worse choice. A couple others thru NRT/SIN are tight connections.

TPE should not be worse than HKG. Personally I would connect through SIN with a tight connection. There are enough flights from SIN-DPS.

STS-134 Jan 27, 2020 3:27 pm


Originally Posted by CIT85 (Post 32001263)
TPE should not be worse than HKG. Personally I would connect through SIN with a tight connection. There are enough flights from SIN-DPS.

You can also connect through EK @ DXB, which avoids the Asian mainland entirely.

matt85 Jan 27, 2020 6:26 pm

Now lots of public venues are being closed to avoid spreading the virus through mass gatherings.
I'm flying back through HKG today, not looking forward to it.

wco81 Jan 27, 2020 6:37 pm

So would they close down the usual attractions, the Peak, Ngong Ping, etc?

MSPeconomist Jan 27, 2020 6:43 pm


Originally Posted by wco81 (Post 32001916)
So would they close down the usual attractions, the Peak, Ngong Ping, etc?

The logic would suggest closing any attractions that result in people being in close proximity to strangers. This would include the tram to the Peak, many museums (especially those that have entry lines or tend to be crowded), the racecourse, Disney, etc. I'd add the Star Ferry and subway/bus system, but they're important for normal life in Hong Kong, including basic transportation to/from essential jobs.

They could try to be a bit more sophisticated and close any additional attractions that are believed to attract visitors from mainland China or those who have recently been in mainland China, but it's hard to imagine what such "attractions" could be other that modern medical facilities.

neotraveller Jan 27, 2020 6:48 pm

Just went through my 2 hour layover in HKG. Lots of people wearing masks but other than that, smooth sailing.

889 Jan 27, 2020 9:12 pm

It looks like there'll be a work-from-home movement starting Wednesday.

Libraries, swimming pools, museums and such are also being closed.

EDIT: Tuesday afternoon and the DAB has just joined the call for closing the Mainland border points. (The DAB is more-or-less the pro-Government pro-Beijing political party.)

A quick stroll through a couple of big supermarkets showed them packed with Mainland shoppers. Coudn't help but think they were trying to do some final shopping before the border shuts. But who knows.

FURTHER EDIT: The Government has announced that flights between the Mainland and Hong Kong will be cut by half in order to curtail spread of the virus. HSR and through train services are being halted as of Thursday midnight. Cross-border ferries and buses are also affected, and a couple of minor border crossings closed.

ranles Jan 27, 2020 11:39 pm

Thanks

CDC is saying not to do unnecessary travel to China. I worry mostly about getting to HKG and not being able to get out! Also CDC making travel unavailable. So I have asked that we be rerouted. They (TA and R7S) should get back to me tomorrow (/Tuesday)? or Wed. Booking in J
Lots thru TPE: SAN-LAX (various) to TPE on CA7 then onto CA 771 all with long layovers (3-4 hours)
For SIN, SAN-LAX to SIN SA 37 then SA 942 Tight SIN-DPS
I do know what we have to do arriving at TPE or SIN about id and recheck luggage on a pass thru. I will check flights again. It was In April or May 2019 that I was booked for the flights
IK @dxb? I'll check it out


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