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Wuhan coronavirus outbreak ó worries as it spread to HK & beyond

Wuhan coronavirus outbreak ó worries as it spread to HK & beyond

Old Apr 21, 20, 8:26 am
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Originally Posted by helvetic View Post
Any thoughts on the mainland arrivals without quarantine?
The WWPKG telling-off last week seemed to suggest Cap 599C will be extended. But things can change in the two weeks we have til then.

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Old Apr 22, 20, 1:31 am
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I've actually been handed a few pieces of info that made me change my mind:

1) 7 May is after a long China holiday. If the figures on both sides remain low, it's a good window to open up

2) Mannings coupons prices went from 92.2 (cents on the dollar) on 23/1 --> (no trade in Feb) --> 89 on 5/3 --> 91.5 on 21/3 --> 92 on 18/4 --> 92.5 today.
Mannings coupon prices is highly dependent on "foot traffic" allowing milk powder to be taken up north, 2 cans at a time (there are other "official channel" cross-border imports which supported Mannings from totally cratering in March). So the traders know the border may be loosened up

2a) Someone pointed out the traders I referenced still want coupons dated October 2020 or after though.

3) DSE exams will proceed late April https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32311570-post4.html

No solid facts, but at least an educated guess?
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Old Apr 22, 20, 12:13 pm
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Originally Posted by percysmith View Post
I've actually been handed a few pieces of info that made me change my mind:

1) 7 May is after a long China holiday. If the figures on both sides remain low, it's a good window to open up

2) Mannings coupons prices went from 92.2 (cents on the dollar) on 23/1 --> (no trade in Feb) --> 89 on 5/3 --> 91.5 on 21/3 --> 92 on 18/4 --> 92.5 today.
Mannings coupon prices is highly dependent on "foot traffic" allowing milk powder to be taken up north, 2 cans at a time (there are other "official channel" cross-border imports which supported Mannings from totally cratering in March). So the traders know the border may be loosened up

2a) Someone pointed out the traders I referenced still want coupons dated October 2020 or after though.

3) DSE exams will proceed late April https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32311570-post4.html

No solid facts, but at least an educated guess?
Big weekend, HK has additional Buddha birthday preceding Labour Day.

Thanks for your update on the Manning Index
DSE is a sure thing according to my network in education administration (HK wide as well as school chains) and teachers.
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Old Apr 22, 20, 12:17 pm
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Old Apr 27, 20, 10:53 am
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https://sg.news.yahoo.com/coronaviru...050445217.html

Probably in as if in reaction, Mannings rose from 92.5 to 92.6
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Dropping quarantine for returning permanent residents and long-term visa holders is an inevitability.

I just wonder when (this is not an if) individual visit endorsements will follow.
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Originally Posted by percysmith View Post
Dropping quarantine for returning permanent residents and long-term visa holders is an inevitability.
That would be nice, so I can get back!
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Originally Posted by percysmith View Post
Dropping quarantine for returning permanent residents and long-term visa holders is an inevitability.

I just wonder when (this is not an if) individual visit endorsements will follow.
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That would be nice, so I can get back!
Iím sorry, I meant from China.

Rest of world is a non-starter given how far behind a lot of countries are with the curve, plus conformance with the National Narrative.
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Originally Posted by percysmith View Post
Dropping quarantine for returning permanent residents and long-term visa holders is an inevitability.

I just wonder when (this is not an if) individual visit endorsements will follow.
We're just over a week away from this, right? I think I may try Taiwan as an avenue in if I can avoid the double-quarantine that way.
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Old Apr 28, 20, 8:10 am
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There's a story up now on SCMP which I find fuzzy on the details. I think it suggests that the quarantine on land arrivals from the Mainland will be extended a month, but with some exclusions for students and qualifying business people, who presumably are immune by nature from all sorts of things. But others may read it differently.
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Old Apr 28, 20, 9:50 am
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https://www.thestandard.com.hk/break...lers,-students

Looks like 1mo extension, except for business travelers and students
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Originally Posted by 889 View Post
There's a story up now on SCMP which I find fuzzy on the details. I think it suggests that the quarantine on land arrivals from the Mainland will be extended a month, but with some exclusions for students and qualifying business people, who presumably are immune by nature from all sorts of things. But others may read it differently.
Students, professionals and qualifying business people will be waived from "Wednesday" (which I interpret to mean today)

This is the latest I can find on details. Apologies I had a long day, please read on Google (Chrome) Translate


當局指內地抵港人士若符合條件 可縮短在港檢疫時間

行政長官會同行政會議通過,將599C章《若干到港人士強制檢疫規例》的有效日期,由5月7日延長至6月7 日,並將豁免兩類人士進行強制檢疫,包括跨境學生及相關服務提供者等,以及擁有關乎符合香港經濟發展利益的 生產作業、業務活動或提供專業服務的人士。政府今年2月7日刊憲報,規定所從内地抵港或過去14天內曾在內 地逗留任何時間的人士,不分國籍和旅遊文件,必須接受14天的強制檢疫,當局在上月24日修訂安排,將由只 適用於內地抵港人士,擴展至澳門及台灣的抵港或過去14天曾於該地逗留的人士。在今日記者會上,食物及衞生 局局長陳肇始表示,今次安排主要針對由澳門及內地抵港人士,由於內地有新的檢疫措施,措施亦嚴謹,政府正與 當局商討檢疫安排,例如若由內地抵港人士在內地已進行14天檢疫措施,並獲得相關證明,他們到港後進行的病 毒測試若呈陰性,可考慮縮短檢疫時間。陳肇始說,兩類獲豁免的人士要符合甚麼要求,要遵守甚麼防護措施,相 關政策局正處理這些細節,教育局負責跨境學生等相關人士,商經局負責經濟活動的人士。食衞局副秘書長陳偉基 表示,修訂的條例明日凌晨零時起生效,但轄免的機制是要經過申請,申請細節要由相關政策局諮詢業界後才可定 出,即是雖然規例會生效,但要待申請機制推出後,相關人士才可正式申請。

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Old Apr 28, 20, 11:31 am
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It says the amendments take effect starting Wednesday, but that those who may be eligible for quarantine exemptions have to wait for the application procedures to be established, apply for exemption, and then wait for the applications to be processed. So it'll be a while before the unquarantined actually start circulating amongst us.
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Old Apr 28, 20, 11:51 am
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Itís been pointed out that schoolchildren is an executory exemption because schools (at least on this side of the border) arenít open.
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Old Apr 28, 20, 11:57 am
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It's true that it mostly seems to be students from the Mainland heading into Hong Kong and back each school day, but there must be a few heading in the opposite direction?

Or maybe they're setting up these rules in expectation they'll be around a lot longer than they're telling us.

EDIT:

Another fuzzy story from SCMP today, April 29, quoting Sophia Chan:

"Travellers from Hong Kong would also be able to apply to go to the mainland without facing quarantine when they return, she said, though she offered no specific details."

So the exemption for students and business people is designed for Mainland people? There's another exemption coming to cover everyone from Hong Kong crossing back and forth every day? But only if they apply first?

It's significant that "the government’s health expert team was not consulted before the government made the decision" to create the exemptions.

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