Wuhan coronavirus outbreak — worries as it spread to HK & beyond
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"The Transportation Security Administration on Sunday [2 February] instructed airlines with flights to the U.S. from other countries to screen passengers before boarding to find out whether they’ve been in China recently, according to a security directive that was reviewed by CNBC. Check-in and gate agents or other employees are required to question travelers, look through recent reservations and possibly their passports for entry or exit stamps, according to the order, which provided examples of the stamps from China. . .
"The airlines don’t have to rely only on passenger answers and must work with U.S. Customs and Border Protection to make a determination, the spokeswoman said. The restrictions are complex and will mean all travelers headed to the U.S. will likely get questioned."
If anyone has access to these "complex" restrictions we could settle the questions raised here. But it is clear they exist.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/02/coro...trictions.html
"The airlines don’t have to rely only on passenger answers and must work with U.S. Customs and Border Protection to make a determination, the spokeswoman said. The restrictions are complex and will mean all travelers headed to the U.S. will likely get questioned."
If anyone has access to these "complex" restrictions we could settle the questions raised here. But it is clear they exist.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/02/coro...trictions.html
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The 12:45 is TG601.
Yesterday’s North Lantau Hospital test won’t satisfy this form they’re handing out. An X-Ray isn’t a negative test for COVID, it’s really just the doctor saying “(in the limited amount of time you Thais gave us to run tests) he doesn’t appear sick to me”
To sign negative testing, a doctor will have to do a proper throat swab test specifically for COVID DNA. A friend of the wife’s done that last week at a public hospital:
(“The results of your deep throat swab test recently conducted by the Hospital Authority is Negative”)
She waited a days for the test results.
IANAD but I believe the swab test is the minimum a HK doctor needs to sign off on the Thai cert.
She just told me private doctors won’t do this.
Only public hospitals are currently running the tests in HK.
And you need to do this test shortly after T-48 to have any hope of getting the results back.
I’ll turn on I-Cable for lunch segment.
Yesterday’s North Lantau Hospital test won’t satisfy this form they’re handing out. An X-Ray isn’t a negative test for COVID, it’s really just the doctor saying “(in the limited amount of time you Thais gave us to run tests) he doesn’t appear sick to me”
To sign negative testing, a doctor will have to do a proper throat swab test specifically for COVID DNA. A friend of the wife’s done that last week at a public hospital:
(“The results of your deep throat swab test recently conducted by the Hospital Authority is Negative”)
She waited a days for the test results.
IANAD but I believe the swab test is the minimum a HK doctor needs to sign off on the Thai cert.
She just told me private doctors won’t do this.
Only public hospitals are currently running the tests in HK.
And you need to do this test shortly after T-48 to have any hope of getting the results back.
I’ll turn on I-Cable for lunch segment.
The latest i-Cable segment didn't say but it appears they've a reporter at the TG601 counter.
Passenger Mr. Zhou claims TG demanded either the certificate template Matt M. posted above
Or since his GP has prepared a certificate the night before, TG said they have to send over his certificate to Thailand and see if it is acceptable to CAAT.
Passenger Mr. Zhou claims TG demanded either the certificate template Matt M. posted above
Or since his GP has prepared a certificate the night before, TG said they have to send over his certificate to Thailand and see if it is acceptable to CAAT.
http://news.now.com/home/local/playe...17&refer=Share
2. Secretary of Food and Health Sophia Chan attended a Legislative Council question session where legislator Rebecca Chan asked whether HKSAR will consider demanding medical certificates (similar to those now demanded by Thailand).
Secretary Chan responded that given the rapid onset of infection in cases, HK Govt believes 14-day mandatory quarantine at quarantine centre is more effective than requiring passengers to produce certificates on arrival.
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Hmm, any word on what additional restrictions are being considered? I want to keep doing my weekly HKG-SIN RT with no issues — and my passport country (Switzerland) is starting to get quite a few cases.
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Consulates in Hong Kong are advising its citizens about a new quarantine restriction.
All pax having gone in France to Bourgogne-Franche Comte and Grand Est regions will be quarantined in dedicated quarantine centers from 13 March 00.00. It also covers all of Italy and some regions in Germany (North Rhine-Westphalia) and Japan (Hokkaido).
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All pax having gone in France to Bourgogne-Franche Comte and Grand Est regions will be quarantined in dedicated quarantine centers from 13 March 00.00. It also covers all of Italy and some regions in Germany (North Rhine-Westphalia) and Japan (Hokkaido).
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Govt briefing starting - I’ll keep track of it to see if there’s anything to add/delete from brunos’s post.
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Consulates in Hong Kong are advising its citizens about a new quarantine restriction.
All pax having gone in France to Bourgogne-Franche Comte and Grand Est regions will be quarantined in dedicated quarantine centers from 13 March 00.00. It also covers all of Italy and some regions in Germany (North Rhine-Westphalia) and Japan (Hokkaido).
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All pax having gone in France to Bourgogne-Franche Comte and Grand Est regions will be quarantined in dedicated quarantine centers from 13 March 00.00. It also covers all of Italy and some regions in Germany (North Rhine-Westphalia) and Japan (Hokkaido).
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HKSAR restrictions against inbound travellers, measures confirmed 20:56 10 March, Red OTA now in effect for the below, quarantine to take effect midnight 14 March:
France Bougogne, du Grand Est, Germany Nordrhein-Westfalen
Spain La Rioja, Basque Country, Madrid (aaaarrrrgggghhhh!!!!!)
All of Italy
and Hokkaido all have to go into 14 day mandatory quarantine on entry to HK
Iran and South Korea will go into the HK residents only list (non-residents not allowed to enter HK after having been in those countries during past 14 days)
HK residents who have been in Daegu and Gyeongsangbuk-do in past 14 days will be quarantined.
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(I think I better post restrictions against outbound HKers in https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/cath...l#post32167672 , and keep restrictions on arrivals into HK (resident or visitor) here)
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Except UK and Ireland
Coronavirus: Hong Kong to expand forced quarantine to cover arrivals from nearly all of Europe, source says
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...ve-coronavirus
(Confirmed 21:07: Red OTA for all of Schengen, starting 00:00 Tue 17 Mar HKT)
Coronavirus: Hong Kong to expand forced quarantine to cover arrivals from nearly all of Europe, source says
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...ve-coronavirus
(Confirmed 21:07: Red OTA for all of Schengen, starting 00:00 Tue 17 Mar HKT)
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Everyone now needs to make a health declaration when arriving HKIA, and you can do this beforehand online:
https://www.chp.gov.hk/hdf/
Curiously, there's no declaration where you've been the past 14 days.
Did this person, who shamelessly flew back from the States when ill, declare his cough etc at the airport? A little scary he could fly so far without any apparent hindrance.
https://www.thestandard.com.hk/break...tests-positive
He was probably more scared of the medical bill he'd run up in the U.S. than of the virus, so he fled.
https://www.chp.gov.hk/hdf/
Curiously, there's no declaration where you've been the past 14 days.
Did this person, who shamelessly flew back from the States when ill, declare his cough etc at the airport? A little scary he could fly so far without any apparent hindrance.
https://www.thestandard.com.hk/break...tests-positive
He was probably more scared of the medical bill he'd run up in the U.S. than of the virus, so he fled.
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Did this person, who shamelessly flew back from the States when ill, declare his cough etc at the airport? A little scary he could fly so far without any apparent hindrance.
https://www.thestandard.com.hk/break...tests-positive
He was probably more scared of the medical bill he'd run up in the U.S. than of the virus, so he fled.
https://www.thestandard.com.hk/break...tests-positive
He was probably more scared of the medical bill he'd run up in the U.S. than of the virus, so he fled.
Is she right to look after number one?
Yes from a payoff perspective. Not likely she will he charged with manslaughter even if some of the other pax/crew die.
Very bad for her if she stayed. Unless she gets shot on arrival like the North Koreans, not enough disincentive to stop selfish people.
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Shameless started on 20 Jan, when the first non-Mainland case flew from Wuhan back to Taipei, having been symptomatic for 9 days, taking suppressants to avoid detection and declared herself on arrival, putting 46 other pax and crew in quarantine https://news.ltn.com.tw/news/life/breakingnews/3047142
Is she right to look after number one?
Yes from a payoff perspective. Not likely she will he charged with manslaughter even if some of the other pax/crew die.
Very bad for her if she stayed. Unless she gets shot on arrival like the North Koreans, not enough disincentive to stop selfish people.
Is she right to look after number one?
Yes from a payoff perspective. Not likely she will he charged with manslaughter even if some of the other pax/crew die.
Very bad for her if she stayed. Unless she gets shot on arrival like the North Koreans, not enough disincentive to stop selfish people.
If I were in the USA I would also try to evacuate, PRONTO. I am not stepping foot there until this goes (even though I have permanent residency there).
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Except UK and Ireland
Coronavirus: Hong Kong to expand forced quarantine to cover arrivals from nearly all of Europe, source says
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...ve-coronavirus
(Confirmed 21:07: Red OTA for all of Schengen, starting 00:00 Tue 17 Mar HKT)
Coronavirus: Hong Kong to expand forced quarantine to cover arrivals from nearly all of Europe, source says
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...ve-coronavirus
(Confirmed 21:07: Red OTA for all of Schengen, starting 00:00 Tue 17 Mar HKT)
Why exempt the UK? I heard that when Trump exempted the UK, it supposedly had the most cases in Europe other than Italy.
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Unofficially: UK's bolthole for a good portion of HKSARG's principal officers' families...so it's the last place on Planet Earth to get a HK quarantine requirement.