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If I openly support the HK protesters, is it dangerous for me to travel to China?

Old Sep 13, 19, 9:51 am
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If I openly support the HK protesters, is it dangerous for me to travel to China?

If I openly support the HK protesters, is it dangerous for me to travel to China?

I am a US citizen with no ties to Hong Kong or China.

Is there a chance that the Chinese border security will make me unlock my phone or Macbook and see what I have posted on Flyertalk or other forums on the internet?
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Old Sep 13, 19, 9:54 am
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If you are young, and Asian-looking then the chance is obviously higher than if you are old and white. But I personally wouldn't go to China with any electronic devices currently except a cheap phone bought for the purpose and essentially blank.
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Old Sep 13, 19, 2:33 pm
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If your face appears in a crowd or your post appears on the web, you should take as a working assumption that your identity will ultimately be logged. This may or may not in fact be the case, but you should proceed on the basis that it is the case.
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Old Sep 13, 19, 2:47 pm
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Originally Posted by Vangrovsky View Post
If I openly support the HK protesters, is it dangerous for me to travel to China?
Yes.

Originally Posted by Vangrovsky View Post
Is there a chance that the Chinese border security will make me unlock my phone or Macbook and see what I have posted on Flyertalk or other forums on the internet?
I believe they won't go that far. But the actual content is definitely a yes.
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Old Sep 13, 19, 8:23 pm
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Originally Posted by 889 View Post
If your face appears in a crowd or your post appears on the web, you should take as a working assumption that your identity will ultimately be logged. This may or may not in fact be the case, but you should proceed on the basis that it is the case.
There is also photo and fingerprinting when you enter China which might be a concern or not. The BBC lost a bet to China's facial recognition technology when they challenged them to find one of their journalist in China.
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Old Sep 13, 19, 8:36 pm
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Originally Posted by Vangrovsky View Post
If I openly support the HK protesters, is it dangerous for me to travel to China?

I am a US citizen with no ties to Hong Kong or China.

Is there a chance that the Chinese border security will make me unlock my phone or Macbook and see what I have posted on Flyertalk or other forums on the internet?
misunderstood the OP .. I thought he was travelling to HK to support the protests

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Old Sep 14, 19, 8:36 am
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Originally Posted by christep View Post
If you are young, and Asian-looking then the chance is obviously higher than if you are old and white. But I personally wouldn't go to China with any electronic devices currently except a cheap phone bought for the purpose and essentially blank.
I follow the same practice for my tech when going to China, based on my company's guidance. I'll be going to HK only later this year (flying in/out via TPE). Would you/others advise the same practice for electronic devices on that HK-only trip?
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Old Sep 14, 19, 9:46 am
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I've not (yet) heard any reports of searches of electronic devices by HK immigration/customs, so at the moment I wouldn't worry about that.
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Old Sep 15, 19, 5:32 am
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I doubt HK officers would do something like that unless multiple foreigners were found to be coming to HK to join protests.
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Old Sep 16, 19, 10:40 am
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If I openly support the HK protesters, is it dangerous for me to travel to China?
Yes.
So practically speaking, what are the implications of that?

Surely the PRC government would assume most Americans/Westerners are generally supportive of democracy, no?
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Old Sep 16, 19, 11:02 am
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So practically speaking, what are the implications of that?

Surely the PRC government would assume most Americans/Westerners are generally supportive of democracy, no?
In their eyes, silent support and vocal support are different beasts.
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The people of Hong Kong include restaurant and shop workers, and some are faced with the possibility of being laid off because of the lack of visitors. Come to Hong Kong, eat a lot, buy a lot - as a way to show your support of the people of Hong Kong.

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Old Sep 17, 19, 6:38 am
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The people of Hong Kong include restaurant and shop workers, and some are faced with the possibility of being laid off because of the lack of visitors. Come to Hong Kong, eat a lot, buy a lot - as a way to show your support of the people of Hong Kong.
Couldn't agree more. In my view, nothing is more important than having the ability to earn a living. Ultimately, whatever is happening, nothing is more important than taking care of one's family and close friends.
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Old Sep 18, 19, 12:17 am
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Originally Posted by DragonSoul View Post
The people of Hong Kong include restaurant and shop workers, and some are faced with the possibility of being laid off because of the lack of visitors. Come to Hong Kong, eat a lot, buy a lot - as a way to show your support of the people of Hong Kong.
In the same vein, the Bahamas is about to launch an ad campaign to both point out most of the country is fine and that if you really want to help them, you should go there and spend money, not feel guilty about having a vacation when other islands were destroyed.
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Old Sep 18, 19, 3:04 pm
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Originally Posted by Vangrovsky View Post
I have decided not to take any more pleasure trip until the people of Hong Kong get their demands met. It just doesn't seem right for me to be sipping my pina colada with triple rum on the beach, while the people of Hong Kong are fighting for their freedom.
Even for the protesters, many are students, they need to keep their part time job (as store clerks, hotel and restaurant workers) to fund the very costly and 1-time use "gear". Some have to leave home due to unsupportive parents and start paying for their own accommodation.
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