Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Destinations > Asia > Hong Kong and Macau
Reload this Page >

HK introduces Smart Departure e-channel

HK introduces Smart Departure e-channel

Old Oct 13, 17, 8:21 pm
  #1  
Original Member
Original Poster
 
Join Date: May 1998
Location: New York, NY, USA
Programs: AA 2MM, Bonvoy LTT
Posts: 11,495
HK introduces Smart Departure e-channel

No registration required. You only need the be 11 years of age or older and using biometric chip passport from an eligible country. This is valid only on departing HKG.

http://www.immd.gov.hk/eng/services/..._visitors.html
seawolf is offline  
Old Oct 14, 17, 7:37 am
  #2  
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: HKG / DUB / YYZ
Programs: CX AY DL
Posts: 174
will they ever make one for arrivals hmm...
fishball is offline  
Old Oct 14, 17, 7:42 am
  #3  
889
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 1,849
At some point they'll open up unrestricted registration for e-channel to more nationalities. At the moment it's just Germans and a few others, no doubt serving as something of a trial run.
889 is offline  
Old Oct 14, 17, 9:37 am
  #4  
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: HKG/AMM/LED/LHR
Programs: RJ Emerald
Posts: 2,088
Are the gates for visitors different from the ones the ones for HKID holders?
Rami Tamimi is offline  
Old Oct 14, 17, 2:22 pm
  #5  
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Home:HKG formerly YYZ Business: ATL, PVG, PEK, CAN, SZX, MNL, SIN, KUL
Programs: CX, DL, Nexus/GE, APEC
Posts: 9,596
Originally Posted by Rami Tamimi View Post
Are the gates for visitors different from the ones the ones for HKID holders?
it could be the same gates as there is a passport scanner on the top of the section where you insert your HKID.
tentseller is offline  
Old Oct 16, 17, 9:31 pm
  #6  
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: ORD
Programs: AA EXP LT Plat >3 Million miles,HH Lifetime Diamond
Posts: 2,427
It is not quite unrestricted but if you enter HKG 3-4 times in a year (I dont remember which) you can register for e-channel. We did that one year and the process was really simple, about 10 minutes at the airport between immigration and baggage. When we got new (US) passports we brought the old, and they re-registered the new passports. We use the same gates at HKG residents for arrival and departure.
worldiswide is offline  
Old Oct 17, 17, 12:44 am
  #7  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: ZOA, SFO, HKG
Programs: UA 1K 0.9MM, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold, Hertz PC, SBux Gold, TSA Pre✓
Posts: 10,272
Originally Posted by fishball View Post
will they ever make one for arrivals hmm...
No for sure. Relaxing exit control does not mean relaxing entry control.

Originally Posted by 889 View Post
At some point they'll open up unrestricted registration for e-channel to more nationalities.
I believe we have a major difference in defining unrestricted registration.

When a person is subject to immigration control, his/her e-channel enrollment is based on such control. So when the Germans, in your example, are
subject to immigration control, I will not say they have unrestricted registration. In fact, the ID website does say they must have a good record in Hong Kong in order to be qualified.
garykung is offline  
Old Oct 17, 17, 3:15 am
  #8  
:D!
Hilton Contributor BadgeIHG Contributor Badge
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Aberdeen, Bella Vista and Croydon
Programs: BA Spire, Hilton *G, A3 Diamond, IHG Silver
Posts: 4,376
Originally Posted by garykung View Post
No for sure. Relaxing exit control does not mean relaxing entry control.
Exactly, look at Australia, I believe for a few years now everyone has been able to use departures SmartGate, since all it needs to do is record the exit and make sure the passport actually belongs to the traveller.

For arrivals they need to make sure the person is eligible to enter the country so it can't be fully automated for everybody.
:D! is offline  
Old Oct 17, 17, 3:40 am
  #9  
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: HKG
Posts: 1,052
Here's an article with pics of the gates Visitors to Hong Kong can make quick getaway as airport opens facial recognition channels

"Passengers will need to have their picture taken every time they arrive in city" So this might slow down entering whilst speeding up leaving HK.
gpia is offline  
Old Oct 17, 17, 5:56 am
  #10  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Hong Kong
Programs: None any more
Posts: 11,002
<deleted>
christep is offline  
Old Oct 18, 17, 12:12 am
  #11  
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 897
Originally Posted by gpia View Post
Here's an article with pics of the gates Visitors to Hong Kong can make quick getaway as airport opens facial recognition channels

"Passengers will need to have their picture taken every time they arrive in city" So this might slow down entering whilst speeding up leaving HK.
"The authority expected the measure to cut the average processing time from 50 seconds per person to 20 seconds."

20 seconds! I'd love to be able to get through the e-channels in 20 seconds.

I don't know what it is about my thumbs, but it takes several scans to get through. Last time to Macau it took 7 scans - 5 on one thumb (none worked) and 2 on the other.

And yes, I do get noticed when I'm stuck between barriers. ImmD officials start to approach and other passengers' alarm bells start ringing. Grrrr...
DragonSoul is offline  
Old Oct 18, 17, 2:19 am
  #12  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: ZOA, SFO, HKG
Programs: UA 1K 0.9MM, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold, Hertz PC, SBux Gold, TSA Pre✓
Posts: 10,272
Originally Posted by DragonSoul View Post
I don't know what it is about my thumbs, but it takes several scans to get through.
Moisturize your thumb first before scanning. This will improve your chance.
DragonSoul likes this.
garykung is offline  
Old Oct 18, 17, 4:16 am
  #13  
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: HKG/AMM/LED/LHR
Programs: RJ Emerald
Posts: 2,088
To be fair, I never had a problem with the gate verifying my fingerprints.
Rami Tamimi is offline  
Old Oct 18, 17, 10:45 pm
  #14  
 
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 897
Originally Posted by garykung View Post
Moisturize your thumb first before scanning. This will improve your chance.
Thanks. My fingertips are usually quite dry so I'll be sure to try it.

Just remembered, it took me 20+ attempts at the Macau e-channel registration machine. /facepalm

And saw an article in the Daily Mail (always good for a laugh) that was about fingerprints for security (banks, etc.) and how there's a move to more fingerprint scanning for security. It also mentioned that as you get older your fingertips become paler, which means they are much harder to scan. The takeaway was: fingertips scanning is going to be everywhere, so don't have a job that might damage/decrease fingertip ridges and don't grow old!

Still we'll all be getting new ID cards and will all be reprinted.
DragonSoul is offline  
Old Oct 19, 17, 1:23 am
  #15  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: ZOA, SFO, HKG
Programs: UA 1K 0.9MM, Marriott Gold, HHonors Gold, Hertz PC, SBux Gold, TSA Pre✓
Posts: 10,272
Originally Posted by DragonSoul View Post
Still we'll all be getting new ID cards and will all be reprinted.
FWIW - most IDs in the world expire after certain time of issuance. Hong Kong is one of the few exception.

Periodic renewal is actually a proper policy.
garykung is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread