Landing slip in passport
Jun 5, 2016, 12:57 pm
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Maybe this isn't the most relevant place to ask this followup, but what is the point of passports any more with slips like this? I mean if in the future, every country moves to such a system, what happens? Is there / was there some agreement between countries that a passport would allow each other to check on where a person has been? What happens then? Will there be a global sharing of the records for security purposes?
Jun 5, 2016, 1:31 pm
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I suspect the next step would be using cards like the American passport card, though probably with fingerprints encoded. Then maybe someday doing away with the cards and relying on fingerprints only.
Not to say any of this will be happening soon.
As to passports as a record of travel, there's never been a requirement that countries stamp in or out, so a passport is not and never has been a definitive record of the holder's travels.
Not to say any of this will be happening soon.
As to passports as a record of travel, there's never been a requirement that countries stamp in or out, so a passport is not and never has been a definitive record of the holder's travels.
Jun 5, 2016, 10:28 pm
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I seem to recall that they do collect them back sometimes. Went back and forth from HK to Macau, Shenzhen a few times during my recent stay.
I seem to have fewer slips now than I should have and remember a customs officer taking one out and keeping it whilst giving me a new one at least once.
Didn't feel like making a stink about it. (I never mess with border officials.)
I actually prefer a stamp for tradition's sake. These slips look like grocery store receipts and, being loose, can be lost.
Further, they're on that cheap thermal paper that'll fade over time.
I like the different country stamps physically on my passport. And I like the officiality of the imprint's "thunk".
I seem to have fewer slips now than I should have and remember a customs officer taking one out and keeping it whilst giving me a new one at least once.
Didn't feel like making a stink about it. (I never mess with border officials.)
I actually prefer a stamp for tradition's sake. These slips look like grocery store receipts and, being loose, can be lost.
Further, they're on that cheap thermal paper that'll fade over time.
I like the different country stamps physically on my passport. And I like the officiality of the imprint's "thunk".
Jun 6, 2016, 7:19 am
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In HK they do keep the carbon copy of your immigration form when you depart, but so far as I know, never the printed entry slip (which actually doesn't seem to fade).
In any event, if you want a record of your HK exits and entries you can get one from the Immigration Department, but only going back ten years.
In any event, if you want a record of your HK exits and entries you can get one from the Immigration Department, but only going back ten years.
Jun 6, 2016, 12:10 pm
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What would happen if you left HKSAR by means of (non-private) transportation where there were no border controls or agents when you departed so no record 9or collected exit form)?
Jun 6, 2016, 12:31 pm
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I imagine that next time you try to enter HK there would be a flag raised about your illegal exit.
Jun 6, 2016, 1:04 pm
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You mean like swim across Starling Inlet to Shenzhen? Of course there are laws requiring you to complete immigration clearance when entering or leaving the territory. If you don't get cleared when leaving, Immigration will record you as an overstayer. That's not good.
Given that few swim their way out of Hong Kong, the most common exit/entry method that doesn't encounter a physical barrier is by ship. And in that case, you're supposed to anchor at a designated place and await clearance, unless you qualify for Special Arrangements.
http://www.mardep.gov.hk/en/pub_serv...an/pdf/imm.pdf
Given that few swim their way out of Hong Kong, the most common exit/entry method that doesn't encounter a physical barrier is by ship. And in that case, you're supposed to anchor at a designated place and await clearance, unless you qualify for Special Arrangements.
http://www.mardep.gov.hk/en/pub_serv...an/pdf/imm.pdf
Jun 6, 2016, 1:23 pm
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Left on a freighter (as big as the biggest cruise ships in existence). Just driven straight to the dockside (security at the HIT 9 gate and they just waved the car through a they knew the driver whose sole job is to drive crew members to and from ships).
So what's the next step? One possibility is the ship having sent crew and passenger manifest to the authorities on departure.
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Jun 6, 2016, 1:54 pm
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Those are no doubt the Special Arrangements I mentioned:
"Under the special arrangements, the master will not be required to anchor the yachts at immigration anchorage for immigration examination, provided that he or his representative presents, within 24 hours before the intended departure or after the arrival of the yacht in Hong Kong waters, the documents mentioned above to the Harbour Control Office at 2nd floor, Central Government Pier, 32 Man Fai Street,Central for examination."
That's from a notice for yachts, but similar arrangements exist for commercial ships.
"Under the special arrangements, the master will not be required to anchor the yachts at immigration anchorage for immigration examination, provided that he or his representative presents, within 24 hours before the intended departure or after the arrival of the yacht in Hong Kong waters, the documents mentioned above to the Harbour Control Office at 2nd floor, Central Government Pier, 32 Man Fai Street,Central for examination."
That's from a notice for yachts, but similar arrangements exist for commercial ships.
Jun 22, 2016, 10:14 am
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From the official FAQ:
Q: Can the visitor request stamping on his/her travel document so as to keep the travel record?
A: Upon implementation of non-stamping immigration clearance arrangement, the immigration counter officers will not stamp on the visitors’ travel documents.
http://www.immd.gov.hk/eng/useful_in...clearance.html
Q: Can the visitor request stamping on his/her travel document so as to keep the travel record?
A: Upon implementation of non-stamping immigration clearance arrangement, the immigration counter officers will not stamp on the visitors’ travel documents.
http://www.immd.gov.hk/eng/useful_in...clearance.html