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mdevans Jan 2, 2013 9:54 pm


Originally Posted by XFed2001 (Post 19963463)
Santander: This may seem like a silly question but do my wife and I have to get separate cards for use on the local MTR system or can I use one card and therefore, pay for her and my admission?

You will need one card per person for travel

Santander Jan 2, 2013 9:57 pm


Originally Posted by XFed2001 (Post 19963463)
Santander: This may seem like a silly question but do my wife and I have to get separate cards for use on the local MTR system or can I use one card and therefore, pay for her and my admission?

Technically, you could probably "double-tap" on a bus but you cannot do that with the MTR. The system calculates your fares based on distance (i.e. stations you tap in/out) so you must tap out before you can tap in again.

You may be able to tap out (without exiting) immediately after entering the paid area and then pass the card to your wife to enter, but even if it worked it'd be fare evasion and discourteous to other passengers and probably not what you were looking to hear anyway. Trust me, once you get there you will see why Octopus is so ubiquitous in HK.

Steve M Jan 2, 2013 10:53 pm


Originally Posted by Santander (Post 19963859)
Technically, you could probably "double-tap" on a bus

Probably not. There's probably a mechanism built into the bus/tram/ferry Octopus terminals to prevent reuse of the same card within a certain period of time, if for no other reason than to prevent inadvertent or accidental double-charges in the normal use situation.

Steve M Jan 2, 2013 11:03 pm


Originally Posted by ChrisLi (Post 19958032)
In addition to what Stantander mentioned, please note that there's a HKD 9 fee if you refund the Octopus within 3 months of issuance.

This fee is waived for the Airport Express Tourist Octopus, since it's designed up-front for use only by short-term tourists.

cyby Jan 2, 2013 11:32 pm


Originally Posted by Steve M (Post 19964153)
Probably not. There's probably a mechanism built into the bus/tram/ferry Octopus terminals to prevent reuse of the same card within a certain period of time, if for no other reason than to prevent inadvertent or accidental double-charges in the normal use situation.

The time is 2-5 minutes. I've had to do that a few times. Just get a separate Octopus Card for each person.

:D! Jan 3, 2013 5:35 am


Originally Posted by XFed2001 (Post 19963463)
Santander: This may seem like a silly question but do my wife and I have to get separate cards for use on the local MTR system or can I use one card and therefore, pay for her and my admission?

Just curious about why someone would think this.

Actually I have used one system where this is possible (Seville) and I was really confused at first when the attendant told me to tap on the entry gate several times while each person went through... anywhere else in the world where multiple people can use the same card?

Also, it's not advisable to double tap on a bus in HK if you're unfamiliar with it, because it might be a route with cheaper fares for short journeys. (Though I once got a driver to refund us in coins!)

tentseller Jan 3, 2013 7:10 am


Originally Posted by XFed2001 (Post 19951331)
This is a little off the topic but it sounds like that I'm buying a quasi-credit card. I'm planning to be in H.K for 4 days in Feb with my wife; we were there about 13 years ago. We're planning to go to Macau for a day but otherwise just plan to take it easy. I was just planning to convert some USD into HKD and use Visa or AMEX while there. So, why do I want or need an Octopus card? Am I missing something here?


Originally Posted by Santander (Post 19963859)
Technically, you could probably "double-tap" on a bus but you cannot do that with the MTR. The system calculates your fares based on distance (i.e. stations you tap in/out) so you must tap out before you can tap in again.

You may be able to tap out (without exiting) immediately after entering the paid area and then pass the card to your wife to enter, but even if it worked it'd be fare evasion and discourteous to other passengers and probably not what you were looking to hear anyway. Trust me, once you get there you will see why Octopus is so ubiquitous in HK.


Originally Posted by Steve M (Post 19964153)
Probably not. There's probably a mechanism built into the bus/tram/ferry Octopus terminals to prevent reuse of the same card within a certain period of time, if for no other reason than to prevent inadvertent or accidental double-charges in the normal use situation.


Originally Posted by :D! (Post 19965306)
Just curious about why someone would think this.

Actually I have used one system where this is possible (Seville) and I was really confused at first when the attendant told me to tap on the entry gate several times while each person went through... anywhere else in the world where multiple people can use the same card?

Also, it's not advisable to double tap on a bus in HK if you're unfamiliar with it, because it might be a route with cheaper fares for short journeys. (Though I once got a driver to refund us in coins!)

On certain bus route with zone fare (6, 15 on HK side that I am familiar with) You tap to get on and when you get off you tap again to get the fare difference between a full trip and your portion refunded.

:D! Jan 3, 2013 7:31 am


Originally Posted by tentseller (Post 19965760)
On certain bus route with zone fare (6, 15 on HK side that I am familiar with) You tap to get on and when you get off you tap again to get the fare difference between a full trip and your portion refunded.

Yes this is what I am talking about. If you double tap (waiting 2 mins in between) to pay for 2 people then it will screw up the refunding.

Thinking about it, I should have probably paid extra as I paid for one short journey instead of 2 long journeys, but somehow the driver decided to give me more money :D

rkkwan Jan 3, 2013 10:39 am


Originally Posted by garykung (Post 19961236)
Basically, for public transportation, only Red Minibus and taxis do not accept Octopus.

There are a handful of taxis that do.

For red minibuses, those that run set routes do have them. For example, between Mong Kok and Kennedy Town - all of them take Octopus.

Santander Jan 3, 2013 11:25 am


Originally Posted by :D! (Post 19965306)
Just curious about why someone would think this.

Actually I have used one system where this is possible (Seville) and I was really confused at first when the attendant told me to tap on the entry gate several times while each person went through... anywhere else in the world where multiple people can use the same card?

Well, in Paris one person pays and four people use the ticket! :D

garykung Jan 3, 2013 2:50 pm


Originally Posted by rkkwan (Post 19967233)
There are a handful of taxis that do.

For red minibuses, those that run set routes do have them. For example, between Mong Kok and Kennedy Town - all of them take Octopus.

I meant complete implementation.

Steve M Jan 3, 2013 5:43 pm


Originally Posted by :D! (Post 19965306)
Actually I have used one system where this is possible (Seville) and I was really confused at first when the attendant told me to tap on the entry gate several times while each person went through... anywhere else in the world where multiple people can use the same card?

This can work in practice only if there is a flat fare regardless of distance traveled. The NYC fare cards probably allow for this, if you were to swipe once, go through the gate, and hand the card back through the gate to the next passenger.

:D! Jan 4, 2013 11:19 am


Originally Posted by Steve M (Post 19970200)
This can work in practice only if there is a flat fare regardless of distance traveled. The NYC fare cards probably allow for this, if you were to swipe once, go through the gate, and hand the card back through the gate to the next passenger.

No, it just requires the card to have an extra field for "number of passengers" whcih is incremented by touching an entry reader and decremented when touching an exit reader (with deduction of maximum fares or whatever). I assume that the card and all passengers make the same journey, otherwise it gets too complicated.

ChuckMango May 10, 2013 9:17 pm

Does anyone know a way to liquidate or cash-out an octopus card? Can you transfer to a HK checking account for example? thanks

cyby May 10, 2013 9:19 pm

You can just go to a MTR station and cash it out at the counter. They'll give you your money back, along with the deposit, minus I think $8 or $9 HKD if you are returning it within 3 months of purchase.


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