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Old Jun 27, 2019, 1:27 pm
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Originally Posted by zombietooth
The only room fees/taxes that we had to pay were the daily "Ecoreef Fee" and "City Tax", and they were trivial charges of 600 Xpf per day.
Misc. VAT is on any activities you booked including shuttles, sailing, snorkeling, etc. The service charges apply only to your F+B purchases.
Can confirm that is accurate to what we experienced as well.

For me, that is the true hidden value in points stays and free night certificates. You save a ton in taxes and resort fees when using points/vouchers. Some of the blogs do mention those savings, but feel they really understate the value.

Obviously getting points for “free” using credit card spend is preferred, I will buy Hilton points when on sale for 100% bonus. I have an upcoming stay at the Conrad Singapore. With the room rate I could have gone either way points (purchased) or cash reservation. Same out of pocket expense. But with a points reservation I had not tax/fees. Saved a good amount of $$.

TD
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Old Jun 27, 2019, 1:45 pm
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Do any of the Pool Overwater Villas have views of Mt Otemanu? Which Pool Overwaters are preferred by people who have been?
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Old Jun 27, 2019, 2:55 pm
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Originally Posted by zombietooth
The only room fees/taxes that we had to pay were the daily "Ecoreef Fee" and "City Tax", and they were trivial charges of 600 Xpf per day.
Misc. VAT is on any activities you booked including shuttles, sailing, snorkeling, etc. The service charges apply only to your F+B purchases.
Originally Posted by Traveler Dave


Can confirm that is accurate to what we experienced as well.

For me, that is the true hidden value in points stays and free night certificates. You save a ton in taxes and resort fees when using points/vouchers. Some of the blogs do mention those savings, but feel they really understate the value.

Obviously getting points for “free” using credit card spend is preferred, I will buy Hilton points when on sale for 100% bonus. I have an upcoming stay at the Conrad Singapore. With the room rate I could have gone either way points (purchased) or cash reservation. Same out of pocket expense. But with a points reservation I had not tax/fees. Saved a good amount of $$.

TD
Thanks.
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Old Jun 27, 2019, 4:02 pm
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Originally Posted by Traveler Dave


Can confirm that is accurate to what we experienced as well.

For me, that is the true hidden value in points stays and free night certificates. You save a ton in taxes and resort fees when using points/vouchers. Some of the blogs do mention those savings, but feel they really understate the value.

Obviously getting points for “free” using credit card spend is preferred, I will buy Hilton points when on sale for 100% bonus. I have an upcoming stay at the Conrad Singapore. With the room rate I could have gone either way points (purchased) or cash reservation. Same out of pocket expense. But with a points reservation I had not tax/fees. Saved a good amount of $$.

TD,
You're so right.^
This is one of the biggest benefits of award nights. For instance, I have an upcoming stay in Tokyo that will cost me 630K pts, which I value at $3,150- (.5 cpp), where the cheapest prepaid cash rate would cost $3,388-, plus 23% taxes and service charges = $779-, for a total of $4,167-. This gets me an equivalent cash yield of .67 cents per point-still a good return, even with the horrible devaluation.

Now, if I calculate the lost points that I would get by paying cash:
$4,167- x 14 = 58,338 pts from CC.
$3,388- x 20 = 67,760 base points.
For a total of 126,098 pts x .005/pt = ~$630-.
Thus, it would still save me $1,017- minus $630- = $387 to use award nights over cash. Still a great deal.
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Old Jun 27, 2019, 4:15 pm
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Originally Posted by ukinny2000
Do any of the Pool Overwater Villas have views of Mt Otemanu? Which Pool Overwaters are preferred by people who have been?
One does - you can see the number above (was it 106?). Warning though: The Otemanu view is through Bora Bora Nui, so isn't the same as seeing it up close from the St Regis or the Four Seasons.
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Old Jun 29, 2019, 7:27 am
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Originally Posted by EuropeanPete
One does - you can see the number above (was it 106?). Warning though: The Otemanu view is through Bora Bora Nui, so isn't the same as seeing it up close from the St Regis or the Four Seasons.
I want to add its the King deluxe only if you want to give it a go.
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Old Jun 29, 2019, 9:05 am
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What’s a fair price you guys were offered for upgrade to standard OWV for award booking? They quoted me 45,000 XPF, which is almost $450 per night for mid-late July as Diamond. When I stayed here in June 2013 (at Hilton), it was like 10k or 15k XPF as Gold.
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Old Jun 29, 2019, 1:27 pm
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Originally Posted by DaveInLA
What’s a fair price you guys were offered for upgrade to standard OWV for award booking? They quoted me 45,000 XPF, which is almost $450 per night for mid-late July as Diamond. When I stayed here in June 2013 (at Hilton), it was like 10k or 15k XPF as Gold.
For us this August was 45K OWV, 90K for Pool OWV
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Old Jun 29, 2019, 1:45 pm
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Originally Posted by DaveInLA
What’s a fair price you guys were offered for upgrade to standard OWV for award booking? They quoted me 45,000 XPF, which is almost $450 per night for mid-late July as Diamond. When I stayed here in June 2013 (at Hilton), it was like 10k or 15k XPF as Gold.
a yardstick that someone has suggested to me before is to compare the base price (cash) between the two villas. if base villa is X, upgraded villa is Y, then Y-X = Z. what you are asked to pay to upgrade should be less than or equal to Z, if you want to use that rationale to argue for lower upgrade cost.
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Old Jun 29, 2019, 2:59 pm
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Originally Posted by DaveInLA
What’s a fair price you guys were offered for upgrade to standard OWV for award booking? They quoted me 45,000 XPF, which is almost $450 per night for mid-late July as Diamond. When I stayed here in June 2013 (at Hilton), it was like 10k or 15k XPF as Gold.
Stayed 6 nights here on points about a month ago. A day before arrival we were upgraded to Horizon Villa and when we got there we asked for a paid upgrade to OWV for the last 3 nights. We were quoted 17,825 XPF as Diamond which we happily accepted.
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Old Jun 29, 2019, 3:17 pm
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was it 17825 xpf per day or 17825 for 3 nights?
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Old Jun 29, 2019, 3:46 pm
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Originally Posted by bigbellymonkey
was it 17825 xpf per day or 17825 for 3 nights?
Sorry, it was the nightly rate.
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Old Jun 29, 2019, 4:34 pm
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Originally Posted by FlugE
Stayed 6 nights here on points about a month ago. A day before arrival we were upgraded to Horizon Villa and when we got there we asked for a paid upgrade to OWV for the last 3 nights. We were quoted 17,825 XPF as Diamond which we happily accepted.
I didn’t know we can pay to upgrade upon check-in. If not full, I’m sure it’ll be cheaper than to do it ahead of time. Of course there’s risk it’ll sell out. Mid-late July for me is still near peak.
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Old Jun 29, 2019, 10:22 pm
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I just got an email from the resort offering eStandby upgrades to OWV for 25,900 XPF. These aren’t guaranteed upgrades so there is some risk. Does this property tend to sell out their OWV and deluxe OWV in July?
Also, is there any advantage to requesting an eStandby upgrade like this rather than requesting the upgrade at check-in? A poster above got the upgrade at check-in for 18,000+ XPF.
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Old Jun 30, 2019, 12:50 pm
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Originally Posted by DaveInLA
I just got an email from the resort offering eStandby upgrades to OWV for 25,900 XPF. These aren’t guaranteed upgrades so there is some risk. Does this property tend to sell out their OWV and deluxe OWV in July?
Also, is there any advantage to requesting an eStandby upgrade like this rather than requesting the upgrade at check-in? A poster above got the upgrade at check-in for 18,000+ XPF.
Based on my experience, they sell-out the lower priced OWVs first. They had plenty of the Deluxe OWVs when we checked-in and I suspect you could have negotiated a good price, but we actually wanted a Garden Villa to have more shade.
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