[ARCHIVE 2018 to 2019] Conrad Maldives Rangali Island {MDV}
#3211
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: MUC
Programs: LH Sen, HH Diamond, IC RA
Posts: 313
I dont want to contribute the supremacy theories here, just want to post some facts.
The first visit of „The World“ was in 2008\09. After that they returned every 3 to 4 years. There were never any problems with the cruise ship guests or complaints from the hotel guests until the last valentines day.
There is no correlation between the day guests and new owner or new management.
The first visit of „The World“ was in 2008\09. After that they returned every 3 to 4 years. There were never any problems with the cruise ship guests or complaints from the hotel guests until the last valentines day.
There is no correlation between the day guests and new owner or new management.
#3212
Join Date: Nov 2011
Programs: Delta DM, Marriott PPE with Ambassador, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 226
I dont want to contribute the supremacy theories here, just want to post some facts.
The first visit of „The World“ was in 2008\09. After that they returned every 3 to 4 years. There were never any problems with the cruise ship guests or complaints from the hotel guests until the last valentines day.
There is no correlation between the day guests and new owner or new management.
The first visit of „The World“ was in 2008\09. After that they returned every 3 to 4 years. There were never any problems with the cruise ship guests or complaints from the hotel guests until the last valentines day.
There is no correlation between the day guests and new owner or new management.
#3213
Join Date: Oct 2005
Programs: VS, BA, HH Gold
Posts: 397
News blackout
Are the resort and Hilton attempting to stick their collective heads in the sand over this?
Such an ignorant approach will surely result in a huge loss of faith in them both.
I would not be surprised if the resort is actively censoring/deleting related questions on their Facebook page?
Such an ignorant approach will surely result in a huge loss of faith in them both.
I would not be surprised if the resort is actively censoring/deleting related questions on their Facebook page?
Last edited by ScubaRoo; Feb 17, 2019 at 5:14 am
#3214
Join Date: Jan 2009
Programs: Hilton Diamond, IHG Spire Ambassador, Radisson Gold, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 3,621
It's not newsworthy at all. Maybe the NY Times will do a story titled "Rich Luxury Resort Guests Flip Out Over Visit from Richer Cruise Ship Guests." I doubt it though.
I agree with those people saying it's a mistake for an exclusive resort like Conrad Maldives to allow a cruise ship to disrupt their guests' experience. I totally reject the suggestions here that the visitors from The World are dirtier, more racist, more crass, more ill-mannered or more dangerous to children than Conrad Maldives guests.
The resort allowed itself to be overcrowded for a day in order to make money. That's it. It wasn't particularly fair to the paying guests, but it happens every day around the world that hotels have weddings, photo shoots, ceremonies, parties and other events that are loud and disruptive to paying guests. This is not news.
Last edited by jphripjah; Feb 16, 2019 at 10:41 pm
#3215
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Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Falkirk, Scotland,VS Red, BA Gold, HH Diamond,UK Amex Plat
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Hi,
Perhaps the news sections would not be interested in reports of this dreadful experience but perhaps the travel sections of the newspapers especially the Sunday editions ( in the UK the travel sections of the Sunday Times and sunday Telegraph have occasional articles about poor travel experiences/serivces) and the major US papers might have a Weekend travel section.
Regards
TBS
Perhaps the news sections would not be interested in reports of this dreadful experience but perhaps the travel sections of the newspapers especially the Sunday editions ( in the UK the travel sections of the Sunday Times and sunday Telegraph have occasional articles about poor travel experiences/serivces) and the major US papers might have a Weekend travel section.
Regards
TBS
Last edited by The _Banking_Scot; Feb 17, 2019 at 4:46 am
#3216
Join Date: Jan 2009
Programs: Hilton Diamond, IHG Spire Ambassador, Radisson Gold, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 3,621
People in Venezuela and Haiti are literally fighting each other for food, and posters here are apoplectic about a single day's inconvenience of not being able book tables at their preferred restaurants at a $1,000 a night luxury resort.
#3217
Join Date: Oct 2005
Programs: VS, BA, HH Gold
Posts: 397
The rhetoric here is just over the top. "Barbarians" from The World. "Dreadful" experience.
People in Venezuela and Haiti are literally fighting each other for food, and posters here are apoplectic about a single day's inconvenience of not being able book tables at their preferred restaurants at a $1,000 a night luxury resort.
People in Venezuela and Haiti are literally fighting each other for food, and posters here are apoplectic about a single day's inconvenience of not being able book tables at their preferred restaurants at a $1,000 a night luxury resort.
How about the damage to the coral reef?
How about the reports of a suspicious suspected pedo?
How about the lack of response from the resort or Hilton to adequately address these concerns?
#3218
Join Date: Jan 2009
Programs: Hilton Diamond, IHG Spire Ambassador, Radisson Gold, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 3,621
It's all hysterics to me. Gross invasion of privacy because someone walked near someone's rented villa?
Suspected pedophile?? The resort is full of people taking photos all day long. If the 15 year old girl and her parents don't want her to be seen in a bikini then she shouldn't be wearing a bikini in common areas of a resort.
The notion that patrons of The World are more dangerous to children or to coral than are guests staying at Conrad is absurd.
"History will remember" Hilton's handling of this? That's bonkers. Hilton let a single resort be overcrowded for a single day. That's it.
Last edited by jphripjah; Feb 17, 2019 at 5:32 am
#3219
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: In the air
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, Bonvoy LT Plat, Hilton Gold, GHA Tit, BA Gold, Turkish Elite
Posts: 8,712
Don't feed the troll people.
#3220
Join Date: Nov 2011
Programs: Delta DM, Marriott PPE with Ambassador, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 226
The rhetoric here is just over the top. "Barbarians" from The World. "Dreadful" experience.
People in Venezuela and Haiti are literally fighting each other for food, and posters here are apoplectic about a single day's inconvenience of not being able book tables at their preferred restaurants at a $1,000 a night luxury resort.
People in Venezuela and Haiti are literally fighting each other for food, and posters here are apoplectic about a single day's inconvenience of not being able book tables at their preferred restaurants at a $1,000 a night luxury resort.
1. That the topic being discussed here is trivial compared to other humanitarian efforts ongoing in the world.
I doubt anyone here would argue with you that the plight of 3rd world countries is of more serious and global importance than the ongoinga at Conrad Maldives. However, note that this website is called FlyerTalk and the topic of the forum is the Conrad Maldives. Your argument would apply to every thread on this website and I don’t see how it related specifically to this conversation. When I was caring for patients at the hospital or performing surgeries I didn’t bring that topic here to this forum, where the focus is travel.
2. That the rhetoric regarding the paid additional guests is out of proportion to the events that transpired.
I was not at Rangali over Valentine’s Day so I can’t speak with first hand knowledge regarding these events. I am able to look at the photos and try to insinuate what this experience may have been like for paying overnight guests. Most of us commenting are projecting our views based on prior experience on the island and how we would feel if this happened during our trip. Since the Conrad Maldives markets itself as private island get-away (opposite the experience of large Caribbean resorts) then the cruise ship event goes against the ethos of the resort in every way possible and cheats paying overnight guests from their expected experience.
I have no problem with businesses trying new things to increase revenue - the point of corporations is to maximize value for shareholders. However, bait and switch practices that have occurred here are unethical. What bother / worries most of us is that the resort seems to be misleading in its comments about these events, which seems unlike my experiences with management / staff on prior visits. This makes me speculate that a new culture may be evolving with the management / ownership team that I do not wish to support financially.
#3221
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: LGB
Posts: 1,205
It's all hysterics to me. Gross invasion of privacy because someone walked near someone's rented villa?
Suspected pedophile?? The resort is full of people taking photos all day long. If the 15 year old girl and her parents don't want her to be seen in a bikini then she shouldn't be wearing a bikini in common areas of a resort.
The notion that patrons of The World are more dangerous to children or to coral than are guests staying at Conrad is absurd.
"History will remember" Hilton's handling of this? That's bonkers. Hilton let a single resort be overcrowded for a single day. That's it.
Suspected pedophile?? The resort is full of people taking photos all day long. If the 15 year old girl and her parents don't want her to be seen in a bikini then she shouldn't be wearing a bikini in common areas of a resort.
The notion that patrons of The World are more dangerous to children or to coral than are guests staying at Conrad is absurd.
"History will remember" Hilton's handling of this? That's bonkers. Hilton let a single resort be overcrowded for a single day. That's it.
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It's a stupid person's idea of a smart thing to say.
#3222
Join Date: Feb 2009
Programs: HH Diamond, BAEC
Posts: 1,341
Anybody there at the moment been able to ask about the water villa renovation plans?
Also, how fine is the sand on the beaches now? Good for sandcastle building?
Also, how fine is the sand on the beaches now? Good for sandcastle building?
#3223
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 253
Given the way The World situation was handled, I am getting more concerned about no/ minimal,notice re construction/ reconstruction scope and timing. ..... wish we had a clue of what is planned and when
#3224
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: ATL
Programs: HH D, MB G, IHG P, Nat'l EE, Hertz PC
Posts: 496
I spoke to people in the front office when I was at the resort a few days ago and asked about the renovation plans. It sounded like discussions were ongoing with regards to the water villas, and that the priority was to finish the beach villas that they weren't able to renovate before the high/festive season began.
#3225
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Back in Hell
Posts: 4,178
The resort allowed itself to be overcrowded for a day in order to make money. That's it. It wasn't particularly fair to the paying guests, but it happens every day around the world that hotels have weddings, photo shoots, ceremonies, parties and other events that are loud and disruptive to paying guests. This is not news.
The owner of Sun Siyam Irufushi is building a 600-room resort - the biggest of any resort planned to open in the Maldives thus far. If it were to be on an island measuring 2km * 500m with a room to restaurant & bar ratio of 15 or 20:1 then I might consider it. If it was to be on Irufushi with 3 massive buffet restaurants and 5 ŕ la carte restaurants then you'd have to pay me to go there! As for Rangali and other 5-star/+ properties, exclusivity and privacy is what they advertise and it's all part and parcel of your stay. If 80-100 guests simultaneously invade the resort when it is at full capacity then Hilton are not living up to their end of the bargain. It doesn't get any simpler than that. If you aren't concerned about floods of people then go to a non-resort island where there are guest inns.....and pay the going rate for it! End of story.