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delpreston Dec 5, 2005 9:22 pm

Westin Bans Smoking will Hilton Follow?
 
Wondering with Westin beginning to ban smoking if Hilton will follow suit?

Personally I'd like it, sick of getting smoke filled "non-smoking" rooms, and I leave smelling like an ashtray. Though it is a quick way to get money back from Hampton and their "100% Guarantee"

rqd Dec 5, 2005 9:31 pm

What are the consequences of violating the rule? Someone mentioned a $500 fee added to your bill.

KathyWdrf Dec 5, 2005 10:06 pm

Given that Westin introduced the Heavenly Bed something like six years ago, and Hilton is only now starting to play catch-up (sort of), I predict there will quite a time lag (a few years) before Hilton emulates Westin on its newest initiative. (By the way, you neglected to mention that the upcoming Westin ban on smoking will only be in U.S., Canada, and Caribbean hotels, and indoors only.)

1K2M Dec 5, 2005 10:16 pm


Originally Posted by delpreston
Wondering with Westin beginning to ban smoking if Hilton will follow suit?

Personally I'd like it, sick of getting smoke filled "non-smoking" rooms, and I leave smelling like an ashtray. Though it is a quick way to get money back from Hampton and their "100% Guarantee"

I agree 100% i hope all the hotels be smoke free.

tcook052 Dec 5, 2005 10:34 pm


Originally Posted by KathyWdrf
and indoors only.)

So, if I ask for a Westin room with a bed on a balcony, could I still smoke? ;)

KathyWdrf Dec 5, 2005 10:55 pm


Originally Posted by tcook052
So, if I ask for a Westin room with a bed on a balcony, could I still smoke? ;)

You smoke in bed? :eek:

tcook052 Dec 5, 2005 11:00 pm


Originally Posted by KathyWdrf
You smoke in bed? :eek:

Only while awake. ;)

sc flier Dec 6, 2005 3:00 am


Originally Posted by rqd
What are the consequences of violating the rule? Someone mentioned a $500 fee added to your bill.

Only a mere $200, according to this AP article.

I have a hard time imagining Hilton taking this route with their Hilton brand, but I might could see them making this move with one such as DoubleTree or Hilton Garden Inn. Doubt it might happen anytime soon, though. I'm sure Hilton will be watching to see how many of you non-smokers abandon Hilton in favor of Westins. I'm sure Hilton will be gaining a few of the Starwood smokers.

toomanybooks Dec 6, 2005 5:53 am


Originally Posted by KathyWdrf
You smoke in bed? :eek:

I don't know; I've never looked.

mikey1003 Dec 6, 2005 9:35 am


Originally Posted by toomanybooks
I don't know; I've never looked.


Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaad! :p

hfly Dec 6, 2005 10:06 am

This is obviously a test as Starwood isn't doing it at any other properties. I should also note that barring/fining people in certain cities and states for smoking is not actually legal. You see, when you rent accomodation in some city/states you cannot be legally prevented from smoking in these rooms. I have actually witnessed a guest checking out in California being told that he had to pay a fine, he was a lawyer deemed it illegal, refused and proceeded to call the police to file some sort of fraud charge. The manager immediately appeared and made it all go away, admitting quietly that the guest in fact was correct in his legal interpretation of CA occupancy law(s).

delpreston Dec 6, 2005 10:27 am

People are still going to smoke in non-smoking rooms regardless of the rules.

Enforcing it is probably next to impossible. Not like you could have "smoke meters" determining that you in-fact did smoke in the room.

Though it's a step in the right direction. Like someone said earlier it's taken years for competitors to come out with their better bedding in response to the Heavenly Bed. It will likely take a decade or more for hotels across the country to go smoke free.

RTWSTARALLIANCE Dec 6, 2005 11:37 am

I tried to book a friend for two nights here in Sacramento. Both the Hilton and Doubletree are smoke free at least as of January 2006 when I was trying to book. I booked him into the HGI.

izzik Dec 6, 2005 11:40 am

I think it's pretty easy to determine who smoked in a room. It doesn't go away as easily as one might think. Plus, if your room was smokeless at check-in but smoky afterwards, I'm sure you can figure out who the culprit was. ;) Charge those $200 fines, Westin!

janhigginskcmo Dec 6, 2005 11:49 am


Originally Posted by KathyWdrf
You smoke in bed? :eek:

You just made it quite clear to everyone else you don't. Haa haa :p


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