yyzflyer

That's a little harsh for your 16th. post isn't it? If you have experience at the property please share it, but you may want to read more than one thread an FT'er has posted on before criticizing them directly.

seajac03

I read PaulGQs comments on the HWV on other threads prior to posting my comment. His constant criticism of the property has gotten out of control. As dhammer53 aludes, there should have been no suprises for PaulGQ if he had read the numerous reports on HWV prior to his visit.

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squeakr

Please keep in mind the TOS about personal attacks....

thanks

squeakr

Moderator Hilton

chazas

I have no comments on this property in particular, but I am here to tell you that there is absolutely no way to avoid roaches in Hawaii.

There are two kinds. The first are the little nasty kitchen roaches that everyone hates. Those can be dealt with. They are a sign of uncleanliness, so you see those in your hotel room, then you do have a hygiene problem.

The other are the humongous outdoor roaches. These primarily live outside, but they definitely wander in from time to time. Seriously, if you've never been here before and see one, you'll think it's a genetically modified super roach. I don't like them, but (1) they're everywhere, even in the fanciest landscapes in the most exclusive areas, and (2) they're not a sign of filth. No one should panic about these guys.

milesrus

If you are staying on an award, I will gladly put up with walkalot etc. As for prices I have stayed at the Prince Hapuna and others there are no deals, nor are their deals in the caribbean, Europe, Japan, China. It's a first class vacation destination, free flights there and free hotel awesome deal.

MIKESILV

Another of the thread originators cynical posts (not the first I might add)

I will not comment much about the HWV except to say that the property is ok but if the stayer had read the posts about he would not be surprised at what he found.

What he really doesnt know squat about is cockroach control. In tropical areas, Florida included cockroaches live in Palm trees, are able to fly and can insert themselves into window/door cracks of less than a 1/16 of an inch. Proper control is almost a losing battle.

mike


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squeakr

[QUOTE]Originally posted by MIKESILV:
[B][QUOTE]Originally posted by squeakr:
[B]Please keep in mind the TOS about personal attacks....

thanks

squeakr

Moderator Hilton[B][QUOTE]

Hmm, appears to blind defense of another moderator's cynical posts ( not the first I might add)
my comment was actually not directed at anyone in particular - I just thought the thread was going in a not great direction and I wanted to nip that in the bud.

And MIKESILV- YHM.

squeakr
MOD Hilton

PaulGQ

Geez, what a stir. I find basic arithmatic simple so converting minutes to miles only took a few seconds with little effort. Referencing the Walkalotta in minutes is like referencing acreage in sq inches.

We really didn't mind the roaches as we completely undertstand tropical enviroments.

We didn't complain too much while we were there but when we arrived at the Sheraton a week later, we immediately realized that we were clearly shorted at the HWV

It became very clear the next week at the Sherton with the following (I don't want to get too Starwood in the Hilton forum but briefly):

Leis on arrival,
Escort to our room with full explaination of grounds layout,
35% off all meals and drinks,
free local calls,
corner ocean suite with 420sq ft balcony,
parking 200 feet from our room
2 for 1 dinner coupons in our room
Pools and Jacuzzi within reasonable distance
Various Hawaiian ceremonies every night

This is how it should be done. And this is as every bit as upscale as wackoloa, even with the occaisional roach. As our stay gets even better and better here, we just realize more and more what a joke it was.

Of course we read every post regarding HWV. But, at least in my mind, the posts didn't paint a clear picture of what we were getting oursleves into. Futher, the opinions seemed to vary back and forth so it made it seem like the place could be somewhat Okay.

Further, EVERY ASPECT of the place is desigend to suck your wallet dry. That is not what vacationing even at the poshest resorts.

I know because we are at a place now where the property gives back - and I mean alot.

Pretty soon HWV will be piping in Lava from Kiluea so they can charge guests a $99 Volcano Experience fee.

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dhammer53

Paul brought up a good point.

We (Flyertalkers) are always posting about the room, the food, the upgrade...

All of need to fill in our posts with additional details; and bugs are an additional detail. Same for waiting time on the boat or tram to the Ocean Tower.

Dan

PaulGQ

thanks DH, I'm going to get into transit times and tram hit frequency when I post the full report. Not encouraging I might add.

hhonorsjunkie

Been to HWV and going again soon. This place is great for the little one and for the grown ups as well. We actually enjoy the long walks to work off all of the extra food we eat when on vacation. The pools and lagoon are fun and the spa has some wonderful treatments.

I just hope that PaulGQ's comments do scare some people away so I have a better chance at an upgrade.

Tenacious

We FTer's can be a tough crowd. Go on a FREE trip to Hawaii, where most people will never have the opportunity to visit, and mainly complain about various minutia. As earlier stated, there are so many posts regarding this property, it's hard to imagine any great surprises. I had an ALON stay at the HWV last fall and it really was what I expected; I'm going back in the spring. Not the grandest property I've seen, but in many ways typical of most Hawaiian resorts. To sum it up, you're in Hawaii, staying for free, enjoy. Truly, life is too short. I agree with hhonorsjunkie, complainers stay away so the rest of us can get upgraded and enjoy our stay.
BTW, anyone going to the HWV should check out these threads:

Alternative, less pricey, off-site (but close) restaurants:
www.waikoloaresort.com/shops/restaurants.htm

www.waikoloagolf.com/Default.asp?p=DynamicListPage&ID=5190&type=FBFacil ities&name=Facilities

To check out some scenes at the hotel:
www.hiltonwaikoloavillage.com/04-experiencenow/webcam

hotlancer

I agree with Tenacious (that PaulGQ is a bit of a complainer) but remember, his stay was not FREE. Points cost one way or another.

AACruiser

so are you saying gold members no longer get any kind of breakfast deals or coupons?

What about a chance for an upgrade?

LLM

Don't worry. Upgrades are likely, even when the property is full, which is typically is this year. The new gold breakfast is a light continental spread in the Palace Tower.