[ARCHIVE to 2017] Hilton Tokyo {JPN}
#946
formerly wunderpit
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: ONT-SNA-LAX
Programs: UA1K-HHDiamond
Posts: 1,340
Is 48,000 honors points per night a decent value @ this hotel? I'm trying to book a 5 night stay and exploring my options. Its normally 60k per night but with the 5th night free it brings it down to 48k. I think the cash price comes out to $300+tax/fees per night.
I'm not super familiar with the HH program, I've been accruing points the past year or so with CC bonuses but have never redeemed any so I'm not that familiar with their currency.
thanks
I'm not super familiar with the HH program, I've been accruing points the past year or so with CC bonuses but have never redeemed any so I'm not that familiar with their currency.
thanks
#947
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 512
I would say yes, having stayed there many times. Considering that 30k gets you the cheapest of the cheap award at your local Hampton Inn, 48k in downtown Shinjuku is a very good value. The rooms aren't the most newly appointed, and the bed in your award (not sure?) may be a little small, but it's very clean and the customer service is solid. Not a long walk to Shinjuku station (IMO) which connects you with everything.
I'm accustomed to SPG and redeeming @ 7k-20k points per night. I know they aren't equal in value but there was some mental sticker shock looking at 48k per night.
#948
formerly wunderpit
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: ONT-SNA-LAX
Programs: UA1K-HHDiamond
Posts: 1,340
Yes, Hilton points have been heavily devalued over the past several years. Certain awards skyrocketed. Everyone can get gold with an AMEX. Meh.
#949
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: ORF
Programs: UA 1K MM, Hilton Lifetime Diamond, Accor Silver, Marriott Gold, CAM Card
Posts: 392
I would say yes, having stayed there many times. Considering that 30k gets you the cheapest of the cheap award at your local Hampton Inn, 48k in downtown Shinjuku is a very good value. The rooms aren't the most newly appointed, and the bed in your award (not sure?) may be a little small, but it's very clean and the customer service is solid. Not a long walk to Shinjuku station (IMO) which connects you with everything.
#950
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: YYC
Programs: Hilton Diamond, Fairmont Plat, IHG Spire, SPG Gold, WS Gold, Hertz PC, National E Elite,
Posts: 2,768
I think this is a fantastic hotel for 48K. The free breakfast is excellent.
#951
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,485
I'll offer a different perspective:
it depends on where else you might spend your points and what you would pay in cash for Tokyo. I value hh points are just under 0.5 US c per point, (half a penny).
I would pay up to around $400 a night for a room in Tokyo (that place is expensive).
So if a room at the Hilton is more than 240USD per night all in, then it is worth burning points. If it isn't, I would pay and use my points to ensure they save me more than their "value" to me. Some examples are Conrad NYC, Hilton Niseko in winter peak and Conrad Maldives.
it depends on where else you might spend your points and what you would pay in cash for Tokyo. I value hh points are just under 0.5 US c per point, (half a penny).
I would pay up to around $400 a night for a room in Tokyo (that place is expensive).
So if a room at the Hilton is more than 240USD per night all in, then it is worth burning points. If it isn't, I would pay and use my points to ensure they save me more than their "value" to me. Some examples are Conrad NYC, Hilton Niseko in winter peak and Conrad Maldives.
#952
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Melbourne
Programs: ►QFWP/LTG►VA WP►HyattExpl.►HiltonGold►ALL Silver
Posts: 21,993
Agrred, next weekend at NRT Hilton - 20K Honors or ¥21,500; that's about 0.7¢ per point.
Last edited by serfty; Apr 7, 2017 at 11:17 pm
#953
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Orem, UT, USA
Programs: DL PM, HHonors Diamond, Hyatt Platinum, Marriott Gold, SPG Gold
Posts: 413
Does anyone know if this hotel is leaving Hilton? I was looking at a booking for next year and there's no availability after 1/21/17 (and none in the Conrad after 1/31/17). The Odaiba, Tokyo Disneyland, and Narita Hiltons all have availability 365 days out. I'll be disappointed if so, I've loved this hotel!
#954
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: BWI
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 82
Does anyone know if this hotel is leaving Hilton? I was looking at a booking for next year and there's no availability after 1/21/17 (and none in the Conrad after 1/31/17). The Odaiba, Tokyo Disneyland, and Narita Hiltons all have availability 365 days out. I'll be disappointed if so, I've loved this hotel!
On that note, for my trip, I could book the cheapest King room for 29155 JPY/night or a King Jr Suite for 39480 JPY/night. None of the other rooms than the cheapest or Jr Suite seem to make sense for the increased price, for example the Executive King is more expensive per night than the Jr Suite. The Jr Suite seems like a great price, but also more than I want to spend on a hotel. Does anyone know what my chances as a Diamond getting an upgrade to a suite, or what type of room I'm likely to get if I book the cheapest King? And I would get access to the executive lounge regardless of which room I book as Honors Diamond, right? I am more concerned with lounge access than room quality, since hopefully the room will just be a place to fall asleep and I will be outside of the hotel exploring most of the time I'm in Tokyo.
Are there any benefits to booking the Jr Suite that would make it worth the extra 10k JPY/night?
#955
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Ottawa
Programs: AC SE*MM/S100K; HHonors Diamond; a bunch of others at various levels!
Posts: 1,580
Does anyone know if this hotel is leaving Hilton? I was looking at a booking for next year and there's no availability after 1/21/17 (and none in the Conrad after 1/31/17). The Odaiba, Tokyo Disneyland, and Narita Hiltons all have availability 365 days out. I'll be disappointed if so, I've loved this hotel!
#956
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: YYC
Programs: Hilton Diamond, Fairmont Plat, IHG Spire, SPG Gold, WS Gold, Hertz PC, National E Elite,
Posts: 2,768
This is the Shinjuku Hilton Tokyo, right? I've been eyeing this property for my trip to Tokyo in October 2017 and I've seen availability every time I've checked, including just now.
On that note, for my trip, I could book the cheapest King room for 29155 JPY/night or a King Jr Suite for 39480 JPY/night. None of the other rooms than the cheapest or Jr Suite seem to make sense for the increased price, for example the Executive King is more expensive per night than the Jr Suite. The Jr Suite seems like a great price, but also more than I want to spend on a hotel. Does anyone know what my chances as a Diamond getting an upgrade to a suite, or what type of room I'm likely to get if I book the cheapest King? And I would get access to the executive lounge regardless of which room I book as Honors Diamond, right? I am more concerned with lounge access than room quality, since hopefully the room will just be a place to fall asleep and I will be outside of the hotel exploring most of the time I'm in Tokyo.
Are there any benefits to booking the Jr Suite that would make it worth the extra 10k JPY/night?
On that note, for my trip, I could book the cheapest King room for 29155 JPY/night or a King Jr Suite for 39480 JPY/night. None of the other rooms than the cheapest or Jr Suite seem to make sense for the increased price, for example the Executive King is more expensive per night than the Jr Suite. The Jr Suite seems like a great price, but also more than I want to spend on a hotel. Does anyone know what my chances as a Diamond getting an upgrade to a suite, or what type of room I'm likely to get if I book the cheapest King? And I would get access to the executive lounge regardless of which room I book as Honors Diamond, right? I am more concerned with lounge access than room quality, since hopefully the room will just be a place to fall asleep and I will be outside of the hotel exploring most of the time I'm in Tokyo.
Are there any benefits to booking the Jr Suite that would make it worth the extra 10k JPY/night?
#957
Join Date: May 2014
Programs: IHG Platinum Amb, Hyatt Diamond, Hilton Gold, Marriott Silver, Carlson Club Gold
Posts: 20
Does anyone know if this hotel is leaving Hilton? I was looking at a booking for next year and there's no availability after 1/21/17 (and none in the Conrad after 1/31/17). The Odaiba, Tokyo Disneyland, and Narita Hiltons all have availability 365 days out. I'll be disappointed if so, I've loved this hotel!
#958
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: London
Programs: BAEC Silver, M&M, HHonors Gold
Posts: 1,223
This is the Shinjuku Hilton Tokyo, right? I've been eyeing this property for my trip to Tokyo in October 2017 and I've seen availability every time I've checked, including just now.
On that note, for my trip, I could book the cheapest King room for 29155 JPY/night or a King Jr Suite for 39480 JPY/night. None of the other rooms than the cheapest or Jr Suite seem to make sense for the increased price, for example the Executive King is more expensive per night than the Jr Suite. The Jr Suite seems like a great price, but also more than I want to spend on a hotel. Does anyone know what my chances as a Diamond getting an upgrade to a suite, or what type of room I'm likely to get if I book the cheapest King? And I would get access to the executive lounge regardless of which room I book as Honors Diamond, right? I am more concerned with lounge access than room quality, since hopefully the room will just be a place to fall asleep and I will be outside of the hotel exploring most of the time I'm in Tokyo.
Are there any benefits to booking the Jr Suite that would make it worth the extra 10k JPY/night?
On that note, for my trip, I could book the cheapest King room for 29155 JPY/night or a King Jr Suite for 39480 JPY/night. None of the other rooms than the cheapest or Jr Suite seem to make sense for the increased price, for example the Executive King is more expensive per night than the Jr Suite. The Jr Suite seems like a great price, but also more than I want to spend on a hotel. Does anyone know what my chances as a Diamond getting an upgrade to a suite, or what type of room I'm likely to get if I book the cheapest King? And I would get access to the executive lounge regardless of which room I book as Honors Diamond, right? I am more concerned with lounge access than room quality, since hopefully the room will just be a place to fall asleep and I will be outside of the hotel exploring most of the time I'm in Tokyo.
Are there any benefits to booking the Jr Suite that would make it worth the extra 10k JPY/night?
You can also book flexible rate and wait for promotion. Last year there were a few Suites promotion in Japan and Korea and Suites were cheaper than standard room. Of course promotional rate is non-refundable.
#959
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 512
does anyone know the difference between "city views" and "Shinjuku views"?
I booked a King bed- city view, but they have a Shinjuku View in a queen size bed. didn't know if it was worth it to book the queen.
I booked a King bed- city view, but they have a Shinjuku View in a queen size bed. didn't know if it was worth it to book the queen.
#960
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Pacific Wonderland
Programs: ʙᴏɴᴠo̱ʏ Au, IHG Au, HH Dia, Nexus, Pilot FlyingJ Preferred
Posts: 5,336
ETA: here's a floor map. Sorry for the poor angle to avoid glare. Top is north, left west, right east. Executive lounge starts around Room xx24/xx25 and runs downward. Back section of the lounge is xx01, maybe xx02-xx03 ... well.
Last edited by rustykettel; May 6, 2017 at 1:46 pm