Hilton Tokyo {JPN}
Jun 8, 2019, 5:31 am
#346
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 2,295
Also looks like it's pricing at 70k points. I believe this property was at 60.
Jun 8, 2019, 11:50 am
#347
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 85
Haha, I'm a n00b. I should have checked future dates; I only went backward to March and assumed that it wasn't open from March 20th onward yet.
I was hoping to stay here on points for the 1st part of my Tokyo stay. Already have the Conrad booked for the 2nd part...
I might just book on a paid stay for now. Thanks!
I was hoping to stay here on points for the 1st part of my Tokyo stay. Already have the Conrad booked for the 2nd part...
I might just book on a paid stay for now. Thanks!
Jun 8, 2019, 10:19 pm
#348
Join Date: May 2017
Location: USA
Posts: 207
Oh wow, that price bump to 70k is recent. It has been 60k the last months I've been checking. I never bothered to check beyond October, but they do seem to be withholding standard awards in Sep/Oct (presumably due to Rugby World Cup), and have availability outside of those months as you said. Really going to have to start debating if I can tentatively book Hyatt Regency as a backup due to the location.
Jun 9, 2019, 6:28 am
#349
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: TX, USA
Programs: Bonvoy Plat, Hilton Diamond, IHG SA
Posts: 140
Oh wow, that price bump to 70k is recent. It has been 60k the last months I've been checking. I never bothered to check beyond October, but they do seem to be withholding standard awards in Sep/Oct (presumably due to Rugby World Cup), and have availability outside of those months as you said. Really going to have to start debating if I can tentatively book Hyatt Regency as a backup due to the location.
Jun 9, 2019, 6:36 am
#350
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It is probably more likely this rather than the 2020 Olympics
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hilt...valuation.html
Several reports of hotels raising award prices by 10k which would tie in with the tokyo Hilton going to 70k
Regards
TBS
Jun 10, 2019, 10:30 am
#352
Join Date: Nov 2012
Posts: 41
Booked 5 nights at standard price from 27 March next year about two weeks ago. I started monitoring almost daily since mid-April and as soon as it was released I booked. They still had standard awards available for maybe 3-4 days after that and it went back to premium awards at 121k.
On another note, does anyone know if they still allow upgrades for cash from award bookings? If so, what’s the price to upgrade to junior suite from standard room?
On another note, does anyone know if they still allow upgrades for cash from award bookings? If so, what’s the price to upgrade to junior suite from standard room?
Last edited by metaphoreus; Jun 10, 2019 at 12:39 pm
Jun 10, 2019, 11:50 am
#353
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: TX, USA
Programs: Bonvoy Plat, Hilton Diamond, IHG SA
Posts: 140
Booked 5 nights at standard price from 27 March next year about two weeks ago. I started monitoring almost daily since mid-April and as soon as it was released I booked. They still had standard awards available for maybe 3-4 days after that and it went back to premium awards at 121k.
On another note, does anyone if they still allow upgrades for cash from award bookings? If so, what’s the price to upgrade to junior suite from standard room?
On another note, does anyone if they still allow upgrades for cash from award bookings? If so, what’s the price to upgrade to junior suite from standard room?
Jun 12, 2019, 11:51 am
#354
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: CA
Programs: AA PLT / MR LTPP 1/1/19 / Hilton Diamond
Posts: 540
Looks like standard award availability has been wiped out after July 2019. I looked a few days ago and saw the new 70k pricing show up, but now there is 0 availability. Maybe Hilton got pissed that people complained about the 60k -> 70k bump and decided to remove all basic availability and only allow premium redemptions?
Jun 12, 2019, 11:56 am
#355
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Southern California
Posts: 478
Looks like standard award availability has been wiped out after July 2019. I looked a few days ago and saw the new 70k pricing show up, but now there is 0 availability. Maybe Hilton got pissed that people complained about the 60k -> 70k bump and decided to remove all basic availability and only allow premium redemptions?
Jun 12, 2019, 1:56 pm
#356
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Beantown! (BOS)
Programs: AA PtPro (2 MM); Hilton Diamond; Hertz President Cr; DL SkyMiles; UA MileagePlus
Posts: 3,437
Looks like standard award availability has been wiped out after July 2019. I looked a few days ago and saw the new 70k pricing show up, but now there is 0 availability. Maybe Hilton got pissed that people complained about the 60k -> 70k bump and decided to remove all basic availability and only allow premium redemptions?
Hilton Tokyo is high occupancy hotel, actually all hotels in metropolitan Tokyo area experience high occupancy rate. Latest number by the government showed occupancy rate of hotels in Tokyo to be 86.3%, which includes western Tokyo prefecture which is not frequently used by visitors, when looking at metropolitan Tokyo area only then occupancy rate is higher. Hilton Tokyo experience this high occupancy rate all year long, Hilton Tokyo don't have to worry a lot about competitive rate and without providing award availability Hilton Tokyo can easily fill rooms by paid guests.
Jun 12, 2019, 5:42 pm
#358
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Jun 12, 2019, 11:10 pm
#359
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: CA
Programs: AA PLT / MR LTPP 1/1/19 / Hilton Diamond
Posts: 540
Hilton uses yield management software to set room rates and availability of award redemptions, just like airlines do. If I remember correctly, Hilton is the first hotel chain to do so by purchasing yield management software from American Airlines. The change of redemption price and disappearance of award availability is simple software response based on demand and past stay history of the hotel. It is highly unlikely that Hilton did this on award availability at Hilton Tokyo because "they got pissed off" based on Honors member demand.
Hilton Tokyo is high occupancy hotel, actually all hotels in metropolitan Tokyo area experience high occupancy rate. Latest number by the government showed occupancy rate of hotels in Tokyo to be 86.3%, which includes western Tokyo prefecture which is not frequently used by visitors, when looking at metropolitan Tokyo area only then occupancy rate is higher. Hilton Tokyo experience this high occupancy rate all year long, Hilton Tokyo don't have to worry a lot about competitive rate and without providing award availability Hilton Tokyo can easily fill rooms by paid guests.
Hilton Tokyo is high occupancy hotel, actually all hotels in metropolitan Tokyo area experience high occupancy rate. Latest number by the government showed occupancy rate of hotels in Tokyo to be 86.3%, which includes western Tokyo prefecture which is not frequently used by visitors, when looking at metropolitan Tokyo area only then occupancy rate is higher. Hilton Tokyo experience this high occupancy rate all year long, Hilton Tokyo don't have to worry a lot about competitive rate and without providing award availability Hilton Tokyo can easily fill rooms by paid guests.