Slow Refund to credit card
#1
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Slow Refund to credit card
#4
Join Date: Aug 2014
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I cancelled a reservation a month ago, still nothing.
I enquired via email and I got the following
"Thank you for your e-mail, Unfortunately due to several cancellation, refund can take 90 days.
We apologize for that, and we do our best to finalize the refund as soon as possible."
I enquired via email and I got the following
"Thank you for your e-mail, Unfortunately due to several cancellation, refund can take 90 days.
We apologize for that, and we do our best to finalize the refund as soon as possible."
#6
Join Date: Mar 2011
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Marriott is claiming it may take up to 90 days for refunds... these hotels are mostly independently owned businesses, most are closed now or dealing with having almost no cash flow, so it isn't so easy to just give refunds.
Figure out when the dispute period for the transaction expires on your credit card. I think it is usually 180 days from the transaction date. But check your card's terms and do not take what I am saying here as fact. I would suggest filing a dispute before the dispute period ends, if you have not received a refund by then.
In your dispute support you will want to notate that the hotel is closed or similar. You cannot dispute because they are being "slow to give you a refund" assuming they can actually honor the reservation. You will lose a dispute if the hotel is open.
Figure out when the dispute period for the transaction expires on your credit card. I think it is usually 180 days from the transaction date. But check your card's terms and do not take what I am saying here as fact. I would suggest filing a dispute before the dispute period ends, if you have not received a refund by then.
In your dispute support you will want to notate that the hotel is closed or similar. You cannot dispute because they are being "slow to give you a refund" assuming they can actually honor the reservation. You will lose a dispute if the hotel is open.
#7
Join Date: Jan 2015
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Marriott is claiming it may take up to 90 days for refunds... these hotels are mostly independently owned businesses, most are closed now or dealing with having almost no cash flow, so it isn't so easy to just give refunds.
Figure out when the dispute period for the transaction expires on your credit card. I think it is usually 180 days from the transaction date. But check your card's terms and do not take what I am saying here as fact. I would suggest filing a dispute before the dispute period ends, if you have not received a refund by then.
In your dispute support you will want to notate that the hotel is closed or similar. You cannot dispute because they are being "slow to give you a refund" assuming they can actually honor the reservation. You will lose a dispute if the hotel is open.
Figure out when the dispute period for the transaction expires on your credit card. I think it is usually 180 days from the transaction date. But check your card's terms and do not take what I am saying here as fact. I would suggest filing a dispute before the dispute period ends, if you have not received a refund by then.
In your dispute support you will want to notate that the hotel is closed or similar. You cannot dispute because they are being "slow to give you a refund" assuming they can actually honor the reservation. You will lose a dispute if the hotel is open.
#8
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My suggestion next time is to not book a non-cancellable reservation unless you can part with those dollars. You have to do the cost benefit analysis of if it is worth saving the money and doing a non-cancellable, or risking a situation like this.
The cost spread on hotels for cancellable vs. non-cancellable is often 10-20%. Is it really worth it? With airlines where the cost spread is so much higher you really don't have a choice and have to do non-cancellable and basically know you will not see a refund of your money to your credit card under any terms.
#9
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I know, this is not a good situation and it is not right for them to hold money like this. But on a non-cancellable reservation they are not required to refund unless they cannot perform the service (so if the hotel is closed). They are refunding these as a goodwill gesture.
My suggestion next time is to not book a non-cancellable reservation unless you can part with those dollars. You have to do the cost benefit analysis of if it is worth saving the money and doing a non-cancellable, or risking a situation like this.
The cost spread on hotels for cancellable vs. non-cancellable is often 10-20%. Is it really worth it? With airlines where the cost spread is so much higher you really don't have a choice and have to do non-cancellable and basically know you will not see a refund of your money to your credit card under any terms.
My suggestion next time is to not book a non-cancellable reservation unless you can part with those dollars. You have to do the cost benefit analysis of if it is worth saving the money and doing a non-cancellable, or risking a situation like this.
The cost spread on hotels for cancellable vs. non-cancellable is often 10-20%. Is it really worth it? With airlines where the cost spread is so much higher you really don't have a choice and have to do non-cancellable and basically know you will not see a refund of your money to your credit card under any terms.
#10
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Also beware if you dispute the charge with your credit card you may get blacklisted from the company's properties and/or have your loyalty account closed.
It is not unusual for travel providers to handle credit card disputes with that as part of the resolution. Perhaps more common with rental car providers than other travel providers, but do believe we have heard of it happening in the past on the hotel forums.
#11
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You are welcome. Always glad to help out.
Also beware if you dispute the charge with your credit card you may get blacklisted from the company's properties and/or have your loyalty account closed.
It is not unusual for travel providers to handle credit card disputes with that as part of the resolution. Perhaps more common with rental car providers than other travel providers, but do believe we have heard of it happening in the past on the hotel forums.
Also beware if you dispute the charge with your credit card you may get blacklisted from the company's properties and/or have your loyalty account closed.
It is not unusual for travel providers to handle credit card disputes with that as part of the resolution. Perhaps more common with rental car providers than other travel providers, but do believe we have heard of it happening in the past on the hotel forums.
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#14
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If the hotel is open and it was your choice to not travel, then you do not deserve any refund. You agreed to the terms of a non-refundable refund meaning non-refundable. They are giving you a refund as a goodwill gesture. Frankly, they can take as long as they want to give you the refund. They don't have to give you one at all. But go ahead and file that credit card dispute and risk getting blacklisted from the loyalty program and their properties. Also that will be a black mark against you with the credit card company when you lose the dispute, it may hurt you in the future when you have a legitimate dispute to file there as well.
Step lightly. If the hotel is open.
If the hotel is closed then absolutely file a dispute, that is a legitimate dispute, you just need proof that the hotel is closed and unable to perform the service that they charged you for.
#15
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You still never answered if the hotel was closed and unable to perform the obligation of a room to you, or if the hotel is still open and this is a case where you canceled a non-refundable reservation because you have chosen not to travel and they are giving you the refund as a goodwill gesture.
If the hotel is open and it was your choice to not travel, then you do not deserve any refund. You agreed to the terms of a non-refundable refund meaning non-refundable. They are giving you a refund as a goodwill gesture. Frankly, they can take as long as they want to give you the refund. They don't have to give you one at all. But go ahead and file that credit card dispute and risk getting blacklisted from the loyalty program and their properties. Also that will be a black mark against you with the credit card company when you lose the dispute, it may hurt you in the future when you have a legitimate dispute to file there as well.
Step lightly. If the hotel is open.
If the hotel is closed then absolutely file a dispute, that is a legitimate dispute, you just need proof that the hotel is closed and unable to perform the service that they charged you for.
If the hotel is open and it was your choice to not travel, then you do not deserve any refund. You agreed to the terms of a non-refundable refund meaning non-refundable. They are giving you a refund as a goodwill gesture. Frankly, they can take as long as they want to give you the refund. They don't have to give you one at all. But go ahead and file that credit card dispute and risk getting blacklisted from the loyalty program and their properties. Also that will be a black mark against you with the credit card company when you lose the dispute, it may hurt you in the future when you have a legitimate dispute to file there as well.
Step lightly. If the hotel is open.
If the hotel is closed then absolutely file a dispute, that is a legitimate dispute, you just need proof that the hotel is closed and unable to perform the service that they charged you for.