[ARCHIVE to 2018] American Express Announces Two New Hilton Credit Cards
#1201
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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It's $40K total spend on the card, doesn't matter where.
#1202
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So the card only gave you Gold once (due to something more than just having the card), and that Gold status lasted until the end of this month, whether you kept the card or not.
#1204
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Jacksonville, AR
Programs: Hilton - Diamond; SPG/Marriott - Gold
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#1205
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Location: DEN
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#1206
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Yiron, Israel
Programs: Bates Motel Plat
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I've been a Citi Hilton HHonors Visa card holder (the no annual fee card) since 2016, and been on Gold status since then since they gave you Gold status for as long as you were a card holder. In January 2018, I received the no annual fee Amex Hilton card as a replacement for the Citi one. Today I received an email from Hilton:
Silver status is the bare minimum of tiers and is pretty bad so I want to retain my Gold status by all means. Do you think it would be possible to do a product change/"upgrade" to the Amex Hilton Ascend card, which has a $95 annual fee but also complementary Gold status for the life of the card? Or should I just suck it up and put enough Hilton spend to get me back to Gold status?
Silver status is the bare minimum of tiers and is pretty bad so I want to retain my Gold status by all means. Do you think it would be possible to do a product change/"upgrade" to the Amex Hilton Ascend card, which has a $95 annual fee but also complementary Gold status for the life of the card? Or should I just suck it up and put enough Hilton spend to get me back to Gold status?
If all your stays will be in the US, the gold is about as worthless as the silver.
I don't have the experience to comment on non-European, non-American hotels.
#1207
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 189
In Central and South America, Gold will get you free breakfast, upgrades, and lounge access as well most of the time. I think it's just the US where it's worthless.
IMHO, if you are going to spend at least 5 nights in Europe in the coming year, pay for the Ascend. It will almost always get you a free, complete, breakfast and often get you upgraded.
If all your stays will be in the US, the gold is about as worthless as the silver.
I don't have the experience to comment on non-European, non-American hotels.
If all your stays will be in the US, the gold is about as worthless as the silver.
I don't have the experience to comment on non-European, non-American hotels.
#1208
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: LAX
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, AA EXP, Hilton Diamond, Wyndham Diamond, DL PM, Marriott Platinum, IHG Platinum
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#1209
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IMHO, if you are going to spend at least 5 nights in Europe in the coming year, pay for the Ascend. It will almost always get you a free, complete, breakfast and often get you upgraded.
If all your stays will be in the US, the gold is about as worthless as the silver.
I don't have the experience to comment on non-European, non-American hotels.
If all your stays will be in the US, the gold is about as worthless as the silver.
I don't have the experience to comment on non-European, non-American hotels.
#1210
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Join Date: Sep 2006
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As a heads up I am finding PP harder and harder to use if anyone is getting the card hoping to use that benefit.
Fortunately in all those cases I had a backup being a Delta diamond but would have been screwed if I was relying on PP.
On my last few visits from SEA the Boardroom was not allowing PP swipes due to capacity controls and only admitting Boardroom members and AS first class customers.
I flew ATL/LIM this past week. In Atlanta I had a long layover and wanted a nap and went to Minute Suites and they were booked for the next three hours. I went to the Club in F and was able to get in (I prefer their free alcohol selection over that at the Skyclub) and stayed there for a few hours but not that long after I got there they weren't allowing access to PP members and only accepting their eligible airline partners guests. Coming back from LIM the SUMAQ lounge was at capacity and they had a separate line for eligible airline partner passengers and for PP passes and I was able to get in pretty fast on the airline partner side but the long was really long for PP swipes and they were only allowing the people in the airline partner line to go in as others have left. As I left the lounge a couple hours later there was no one in the Airline line and only a couple in the PP line. Landing in ATL I wanted a shower and there was a wait at the Skyclub so went over to the Club and they weren't allowing PP swipes.
Fortunately in all those cases I had a backup being a Delta diamond but would have been screwed if I was relying on PP.
On my last few visits from SEA the Boardroom was not allowing PP swipes due to capacity controls and only admitting Boardroom members and AS first class customers.
I flew ATL/LIM this past week. In Atlanta I had a long layover and wanted a nap and went to Minute Suites and they were booked for the next three hours. I went to the Club in F and was able to get in (I prefer their free alcohol selection over that at the Skyclub) and stayed there for a few hours but not that long after I got there they weren't allowing access to PP members and only accepting their eligible airline partners guests. Coming back from LIM the SUMAQ lounge was at capacity and they had a separate line for eligible airline partner passengers and for PP passes and I was able to get in pretty fast on the airline partner side but the long was really long for PP swipes and they were only allowing the people in the airline partner line to go in as others have left. As I left the lounge a couple hours later there was no one in the Airline line and only a couple in the PP line. Landing in ATL I wanted a shower and there was a wait at the Skyclub so went over to the Club and they weren't allowing PP swipes.
#1211
Join Date: Jan 2016
Posts: 48
I think you're confused. The no-AF Citi HH card only gave Silver for just having the card. You had to do either sizable spend, or a certain amount of stays within a short time ("fast track") after getting the card, to get Gold. And that was only supposed to last the year you earned it, the following year, and through March of the year after that. So it wasn't "as long as you were a cardholder", but by coincidence, it happened to be, because the card with Citi only lasted as long as your status. it was just once you earned Gold in the middle of 2016, however you earned it, it was good through March 2018, which is right now.
So the card only gave you Gold once (due to something more than just having the card), and that Gold status lasted until the end of this month, whether you kept the card or not.
So the card only gave you Gold once (due to something more than just having the card), and that Gold status lasted until the end of this month, whether you kept the card or not.
Since it looks like if I "upgrade" to the Hilton Amex Ascend card I'll get complimentary Gold status I am thinking that would be the way to go for now. I will ring up Amex and check if I'm eligible for an upgrade and if not I'll request it.
Edited to add: Just logged-in to my Amex card dashboard and found that I am eligible to upgrade to the Ascend and to the Aspire. I wish I could have gotten the 75K bonus point offer, but I am going to call Amex again and as if when I upgrade to the Ascend I will be able to get the offer (or anything close). At worst, I will just get the Ascend and then in three months I'll do a 3x CLI on it, and be content with that. Sometime late in 2Q'18 I will probably apply for the Amex Business Platinum, the Amex SPG, the Chase Ink, the Chase Freedom and the Chase Freedom Unlimited and I should be good for cards for the rest of 2018.
Last edited by jalabi99; Mar 31, 2018 at 4:10 pm Reason: Edited to add more detail
#1212
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 775
Is the $250 Hilton resort statement credit -good for drinks,dinner etc? or ONLY resort fees?
IF good for other than "resort fees"--can it all be used on a one night stay?
IF good for other than "resort fees"--can it all be used on a one night stay?
#1213
Join Date: Oct 2009
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Any number of nights, if the charge is less than $250 it will be credited in fulll.
#1214
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Cheers.