[ARCHIVE to 2018] American Express Announces Two New Hilton Credit Cards
Nov 1, 2017, 9:25 am
#76
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Free breakfast x 2 x 7 days x $15 = $210
Free weekend night = $200
Resort Fee x 7 days = $245 (Offset by $250)
Priority Pass lounge 2 visits for 2 people = $100?
Airline seat upgrade/food = $100? (Offset by $250)
So even if you don't use up the full resort credit and the full incidental, 1 stay at a Hilton should put you in the green for $400 or more.
Nov 1, 2017, 9:25 am
#77
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A credit card thread is probably not the best place to find this information. I would look for threads with both words in the Title, such as:
DIAMOND vs. GOLD?
DIAMOND vs. GOLD?
Nov 1, 2017, 9:27 am
#78
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$700 since you get free weekend cert with no spending requirement. That weekend cert is $200 easy. People with no status with Hilton and considering spending a week at a Hilton resort should get this card.
Free breakfast x 2 x 7 days x $15 = $210
Free weekend night = $200
Resort Fee x 7 days = $245 (Offset by $250)
Priority Pass lounge 2 visits for 2 people = $100?
Airline seat upgrade/food = $100? (Offset by $250)
So even if you don't use up the full resort credit and the full incidental, 1 stay at a Hilton should put you in the green for $400 or more.
Free breakfast x 2 x 7 days x $15 = $210
Free weekend night = $200
Resort Fee x 7 days = $245 (Offset by $250)
Priority Pass lounge 2 visits for 2 people = $100?
Airline seat upgrade/food = $100? (Offset by $250)
So even if you don't use up the full resort credit and the full incidental, 1 stay at a Hilton should put you in the green for $400 or more.
Nov 1, 2017, 9:31 am
#79
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$700 since you get free weekend cert with no spending requirement. That weekend cert is $200 easy. People with no status with Hilton and considering spending a week at a Hilton resort should get this card.
Free breakfast x 2 x 7 days x $15 = $210
Free weekend night = $200
Resort Fee x 7 days = $245 (Offset by $250)
Priority Pass lounge 2 visits for 2 people = $100?
Airline seat upgrade/food = $100? (Offset by $250)
So even if you don't use up the full resort credit and the full incidental, 1 stay at a Hilton should put you in the green for $400 or more.
Free breakfast x 2 x 7 days x $15 = $210
Free weekend night = $200
Resort Fee x 7 days = $245 (Offset by $250)
Priority Pass lounge 2 visits for 2 people = $100?
Airline seat upgrade/food = $100? (Offset by $250)
So even if you don't use up the full resort credit and the full incidental, 1 stay at a Hilton should put you in the green for $400 or more.
Nov 1, 2017, 9:32 am
#80
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Hi Lauren,
Thanks for posting. Could you clarify some things on the new Aspire card? Specifically:
• $250 Airline incidental fee statement credit
How does this work on the Amex side? Does it use the same "engine" as the Platinum/Centurion American Express cards? I've read that those cards requires you select an airline before you use your card to get it credited. And you can only change it once a year. Is this how it works with this card? Incidentals means not airline award taxes, upgrade fees?
• $250 Hilton resort statement credit
Is this only for resort hotels - is there a list of which ones are eligible for this credit?
• $100 on-property credit at Waldorf Astoria Hotels & Resorts and Conrad Hotels & Resorts when booking the exclusive Aspire Card package
What is the exclusive Aspire Card package?
Thanks for posting. Could you clarify some things on the new Aspire card? Specifically:
• $250 Airline incidental fee statement credit
How does this work on the Amex side? Does it use the same "engine" as the Platinum/Centurion American Express cards? I've read that those cards requires you select an airline before you use your card to get it credited. And you can only change it once a year. Is this how it works with this card? Incidentals means not airline award taxes, upgrade fees?
• $250 Hilton resort statement credit
Is this only for resort hotels - is there a list of which ones are eligible for this credit?
• $100 on-property credit at Waldorf Astoria Hotels & Resorts and Conrad Hotels & Resorts when booking the exclusive Aspire Card package
What is the exclusive Aspire Card package?
Nov 1, 2017, 9:34 am
#81
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Believe me hotels can see if you are a cc diamond or a head in bed diamond member.
Chatted about this with several hotel staff and they confirmed they look at stay history and spendings to assign the best upgrades.
The most negative part is that the executive lounges are going to become even more crowded...
Chatted about this with several hotel staff and they confirmed they look at stay history and spendings to assign the best upgrades.
The most negative part is that the executive lounges are going to become even more crowded...
The biggest slap in the face is for those of us who actually put in 10 years plus and over 1000 nights are now getting the same benefits as someone who is being paid $50 by Hilton to become a Diamond
Nov 1, 2017, 9:34 am
#82
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Wasn't this already offered with the Citi Hilton reserve card? I remember spending $40k will give you Diamond status, no?
Nov 1, 2017, 9:40 am
#83
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HUGE, HUGE difference between making someone spend $40k annually for the status vs a $450 AF to get it. This fee is also completely offset by the credits.
Nov 1, 2017, 9:42 am
#84
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I'm assuming the Resort credit would be applied towards any charges incurred at one of the 80 or so resorts here:
http://www3.hilton.com/en/resorts/index.html
http://www3.hilton.com/en/resorts/index.html
Nov 1, 2017, 9:45 am
#85
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Nov 1, 2017, 9:55 am
#86
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I am not sure what the benefits would look like. I am talking about harder qualifications, like annual spend at Hilton over $25k or actual Head in Bed night requirements or even a higher lifetime stay. Not really sure
Bottom line is Diamond took a MAJOR devaluation with this card coming out
Bottom line is Diamond took a MAJOR devaluation with this card coming out
Nov 1, 2017, 9:56 am
#87
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Most hotels do not really care, even though they can see it. Also, when people start earning all these higher level points, reward stays will be harder to get and 48 hour room guarantees. It is just a mess all around
The biggest slap in the face is for those of us who actually put in 10 years plus and over 1000 nights are now getting the same benefits as someone who is being paid $50 by Hilton to become a Diamond
The biggest slap in the face is for those of us who actually put in 10 years plus and over 1000 nights are now getting the same benefits as someone who is being paid $50 by Hilton to become a Diamond
She had also never seen the other pages with your score, complaint history etc.
Nov 1, 2017, 9:57 am
#88
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Great, let's start another thread on the new AMEX cards 
Nov 1, 2017, 9:59 am
#89
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[QUOTE=HawkeyeFlyer;29003853
Lifetime Diamond feels like a joke at this point[/QUOTE]
Not a full joke... yet... as you still need 10 years of Diamond level AND 1,000 nights. You can pay the $450 to get the years, but still have to stay at the properties to get the nights threshold.
Hopefully they will make existing "Lifetime Diamonds" a new, higher level (or some scheme like others have mentioned)
Lifetime Diamond feels like a joke at this point[/QUOTE]
Not a full joke... yet... as you still need 10 years of Diamond level AND 1,000 nights. You can pay the $450 to get the years, but still have to stay at the properties to get the nights threshold.
Hopefully they will make existing "Lifetime Diamonds" a new, higher level (or some scheme like others have mentioned)
Nov 1, 2017, 9:59 am
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