Consolidated "Best Strategies for Receiving an Upgrade" thread
#16
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 70
Thanks for that, certainly does seem a strange way to treat your customers!
If I'm honest....Yes! No need for raised voices or anything...I'll simply walk up to the desk, ask if they've got any executive rooms, if they say yes, I'll then advise them I've got an existing booking and take it from there!
The optimism of inexperience probably!
The optimism of inexperience probably!
#17
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Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: ORD, HKG
Programs: UA*G, AA Emerald, HHonors Diamond, Hyatt globalist
Posts: 10,276
Even exec. floor are avaiable, some hotels are specifically not give it to gold as upgrade like Hilton SF. However, they will sell it to you though.
#18
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: NYC
Programs: AA LT PLT, SPG Gold
Posts: 2,564
Are the Hilton "executive floor" rooms actually any different than those on other floors? With SPG I've often found that the only difference is the placard on the wall by the elevator that says "SPG Floor"...that and perhaps a robe in the closet. But usually the rooms are generally the same as all the rest. Just curious as to how it works with Hilton.
#19
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: FRA
Posts: 588
Are the Hilton "executive floor" rooms actually any different than those on other floors? With SPG I've often found that the only difference is the placard on the wall by the elevator that says "SPG Floor"...that and perhaps a robe in the closet. But usually the rooms are generally the same as all the rest. Just curious as to how it works with Hilton.
#20
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
Bondiboy provides some dinky di information . I also add a note to every booking when I make it - it might be as simple as "HHonors xxx VIP # 123456" and add what I need to - "please hold possible late arrival" or whatever, and when they review (hopefully) for room assignments, it makes a difference.
If the stay includes an important event for us / me (anniversary, etc.) I send an e-mail as well. (The UK website lists e-mail addresses, and one can easily piece together the proper bits to use, whether it is gm@, general.manager@ or whatever, the latter being the name of the HHonors manager, General Manager or whomever.)
As well, it is often useful to review the threads specific to a property, as some are notoriously stingy or / and charge (San Francisco has been mentioned.)
If the stay includes an important event for us / me (anniversary, etc.) I send an e-mail as well. (The UK website lists e-mail addresses, and one can easily piece together the proper bits to use, whether it is gm@, general.manager@ or whatever, the latter being the name of the HHonors manager, General Manager or whomever.)
As well, it is often useful to review the threads specific to a property, as some are notoriously stingy or / and charge (San Francisco has been mentioned.)
#22
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: SF CA USA. I love large faceless corporations. And they cherish me in return (sometimes). ;)
Programs: UA Premier Gold/disappointed 1MM, HH Gold, IHG Plat, MB Gold, BW Diam Sel
Posts: 17,575
Sorry to say the whole upgrade benefit and its loose defintion is a real weak point in the program. What it usually comes down to is the local property's policy and/or the front desk attendant's decision. Freqently they'll pre-package your check-in as an Elite member and that package will have an upgrade of some sort but its far from guaranteed. I've made a standard practice of asking when I check in.
In other words, there is absolutely no way that a free upgrade can be "guaranteed," in spite of all those on this forum who seem to suffer from a "magical thinking" syndrome.
#23
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Join Date: Jun 2002
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Are the Hilton "executive floor" rooms actually any different than those on other floors? With SPG I've often found that the only difference is the placard on the wall by the elevator that says "SPG Floor"...that and perhaps a robe in the closet. But usually the rooms are generally the same as all the rest. Just curious as to how it works with Hilton.
When it is at Hilton SF, exec.floor is actually a smaller room, but on high floor comes with a balcony with bay view.
Some of them if it is in exec.floor means free wifi / high speed internet access, which save you $9.95 a day
Many hotels actually reflect a big rate difference regarding how much more you can get on exec.floor. If there is a lounge, free high speed internet, then you can see it will charge $100+ over regular floor room. When it is basically exec.floor means high floor and cont.breakfast in the restaurant, then you can see they only charge $30 over the regular room.
If you go to a hotel like Conrad Hong Kong, and Conrad Singapore, then you will notice a significant difference on the exec.floor rooms. Then is when you have gold or diamond status come in handy for the upgrade.
#24
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Overijse( location 50.75 °N, 4.52 °E ) ; Belgium
Programs: HH diamond(yr 16, >922 nights ), AA Gld for life (1MM),M&M FTL , Sixt platinum; IATA DTTF
Posts: 161
check exec. room availability before walking up to frontdesk
Favourite is to check exec. room availability by calling HH desk just before walking up to front desk !My wife (HH diamond)had a refusal for roomupgrade in Sorrento Hilton last week.When she mentioned HH desk in UK confirming that exec rooms were available at that precise moment , Frontdesk then told her they refused her first request because she was staying "too long" ( 12 day stay ) !!!
Finally she told them she was forewarned by FT and would not take "no" so they gave in but being a HH diamond still sadly enough requires nagging and pushing to get what is promised by HH rules to HHDiamond but not always followed by local GM and staff .
Finally she told them she was forewarned by FT and would not take "no" so they gave in but being a HH diamond still sadly enough requires nagging and pushing to get what is promised by HH rules to HHDiamond but not always followed by local GM and staff .
#25
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: SFO
Programs: UA--no longer 2P as of 3/2012 and don't even care. Never thought I'd say that.
Posts: 781
For those of you wondering why I didn't switch with my mother, she checked in a few days earlier, and we didn't see each other's rooms till the night before I was scheduled to leave.
#26
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: UK
Posts: 3,082
I've been upgraded as Gold every time in both Dubai Hiltons in a dozen visits, apart from once when Jumeriah was full. Next time they gave me a suite as an apology
#27
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: RDU
Posts: 812
Favourite is to check exec. room availability by calling HH desk just before walking up to front desk !My wife (HH diamond)had a refusal for roomupgrade in Sorrento Hilton last week.When she mentioned HH desk in UK confirming that exec rooms were available at that precise moment , Frontdesk then told her they refused her first request because she was staying "too long" ( 12 day stay ) !!!
Finally she told them she was forewarned by FT and would not take "no" so they gave in but being a HH diamond still sadly enough requires nagging and pushing to get what is promised by HH rules to HHDiamond but not always followed by local GM and staff .
Finally she told them she was forewarned by FT and would not take "no" so they gave in but being a HH diamond still sadly enough requires nagging and pushing to get what is promised by HH rules to HHDiamond but not always followed by local GM and staff .
#28
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Overijse( location 50.75 °N, 4.52 °E ) ; Belgium
Programs: HH diamond(yr 16, >922 nights ), AA Gld for life (1MM),M&M FTL , Sixt platinum; IATA DTTF
Posts: 161
yes ! also on other stays in other hotels , we always ask for availability for same amount of nights as booked so there is no way to get any lame excuses as "fully booked" for next weekend .
#29
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: DEN
Programs: DL DM/MM, UA 1K, AA Exp, HH Dia, WOH Glob, IHG Plat, Marriott Gold, NA EE, Hertz PC
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Shorter stays are typically easier to get UG's on. While sneaky, you could always book a 3-4 day stay, get your room, and ask to stay longer so long as you don't risk a no...
#30
Join Date: Aug 2004
Programs: AA (EP), Hilton (Diamond), Marriott Bonvoy (Titanium)
Posts: 8,937
The way the benefits are worded, not much is guaranteed except lounge access for diamonds. And some hotels play silly games where minor room differences are counted as an "upgrade".