Originally Posted by enviroian
(Post 31228944)
Why don't they just add it to the daily rate? It would be nice not to be deceptive and advertise one rate then get wacked with the resort fee at the end. Ridiculous and misleading.
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Originally Posted by arlflyer
(Post 31229403)
I articulated one very big reason why upthread. And that reason is the fact that most corporate travel policies impose a cap on base rate, with taxes and fees being what they are. So this is an easy way for hoteliers to take price on a core segment without ruffling feathers. In the end it will lead to local authorities raising taxes, like the 25% tax you need to pay in San Francisco on your parking rate at the hotel. Twentyfive percent of zero dollars can't be that much, but 25% on a parking rate of $20-$40 is an extra $5-$10 a night that adds up to the cost of everyone's stay. Also, while the Hilton website only displays these BS FEEs on the second page - making it very hard to compare rates - some foreign OTAs don't display the BS FEE at all. Lastly, these BS FEEs are defrauding Hilton status-holders out of acquired free amenities they are normally entitled to. |
Originally Posted by enviroian
(Post 31227164)
I just booked two nights at the Waldorf Phx and there is an add'l $35/night resort fee. Any chance or experience with Diamonds getting this waived at all?
This property often has summer specials that include the resort fee. They also have deals with some meals. We stayed there on one a year or two ago. It’s a nice property, but just didn’t impress me that much. |
Originally Posted by Sisosig
(Post 31229664)
Poor excuse. Instead of putting a cap on their rates, for this particular reason, it allows hotels to defraud companies and government agencies out of taxpayers' and owners/stockholders' money. This is bad for everyone, for corporate travel, for government travel as well as for leisure travel. Also, it it defrauding local authorities and schools out of tax, because the occupancy tax, which is usually bigger, will only be levied on the room rate. While the 'BS FEE' will at best get charged a sales tax, which will be lower.
In the end it will lead to local authorities raising taxes, like the 25% tax you need to pay in San Francisco on your parking rate at the hotel. Twentyfive percent of zero dollars can't be that much, but 25% on a parking rate of $20-$40 is an extra $5-$10 a night that adds up to the cost of everyone's stay. Also, while the Hilton website only displays these BS FEEs on the second page - making it very hard to compare rates - some foreign OTAs don't display the BS FEE at all. Lastly, these BS FEEs are defrauding Hilton status-holders out of acquired free amenities they are normally entitled to. |
As a consumer base, we're so completely and overly obsessed with fees/all-included when traveling. All that really matters is the bottom line price. Unless it is some elite perk of whatever to waive resort fees (which isn't with Hilton), then it is PART OF THE PRICE. If hotels "did away" with resort fees, do you honestly think would you just pocket the difference? I agree that it is an annoying process, and would rather the price be up front. I understand why it is the way it is. People lose their minds over a $35 fee on a $250 room when your room really costs $285.
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Originally Posted by sebseb
(Post 31227198)
Pay with points and the resort fee is gone. Otherwise no chance.
I just rebooked the embassy suites in old town for 26K points per night. The cost of the stay: PREMIUM ROOM REWARD Honors Reward ID: 042546018 Rate: 57.01 USD Points: + 52000 Points Taxes 7.01 USD Resort Charge 50.00 USD Total for Stay 57.01 USD + 52000 Points I thought you said resort fee is waived with a all points payment? |
Originally Posted by enviroian
(Post 31229911)
Okay I just canceled the biltmore because it appears to be really not worth it as rooms are out of date, etc etc.
I just rebooked the embassy suites in old town for 26K points per night. The cost of the stay: PREMIUM ROOM REWARD Honors Reward ID: 042546018 Rate: 57.01 USD Points: + 52000 Points Taxes 7.01 USD Resort Charge 50.00 USD Total for Stay 57.01 USD + 52000 Points I thought you said resort fee is waived with a all points payment? |
Originally Posted by Super Mario
(Post 31229907)
As a consumer base, we're so completely and overly obsessed with fees/all-included when traveling. All that really matters is the bottom line price. Unless it is some elite perk of whatever to waive resort fees (which isn't with Hilton), then it is PART OF THE PRICE. If hotels "did away" with resort fees, do you honestly think would you just pocket the difference? I agree that it is an annoying process, and would rather the price be up front. I understand why it is the way it is. People lose their minds over a $35 fee on a $250 room when your room really costs $285.
Is it correct, by using this rate you would only pay $125 for that room or maybe even less, plus you would get 50% off the bar/restaurant cheque? Does your resort fee also get waved? We regular stay out of own pocket 'consumers' are more disadvantaged by offers like DoubleTree Tropicana's $40 a night plus a $37.00 resort fee. A fee that even includes fake value like "buy 1, get 1 free" and 10 cents worth of water bottles each day. Well, at least their parking is still free. |
Originally Posted by Sisosig
(Post 31230420)
In another thread you just said you have access to the Friends and Family-rate. (link)
Is it correct, by using this rate you would only pay $125 for that room or maybe even less, plus you would get 50% off the bar/restaurant cheque? Does your resort fee also get waved? We regular stay out of own pocket 'consumers' are more disadvantaged by offers like DoubleTree Tropicana's $40 a night plus a $37.00 resort fee. A fee that even includes fake value like "buy 1, get 1 free" and 10 cents worth of water bottles each day. Well, at least their parking is still free. Again, for your last point, it is all part of the price. I do stay at IHG sometimes too. I will choose the better price. I have paid plenty of resort fees. I have a Vegas stay coming up at a different hotel, and you know what Vegas means. Resort fees for sure. I'm not going to save any money by protesting and paying an equal or higher room rate elsewhere (not that you even have that choice in certain places) |
I tweeted Hilton. The other poster was indeed spot on!
“Hi Ian! Thank you for those details. When you book a reservation using all points, you do not have to pay a resort fee. You can disregard anything stating otherwise. If we can help with anything else, please let us know. Happy Travels!-JM”. |
Originally Posted by enviroian
(Post 31231659)
I tweeted Hilton. The other poster was indeed spot on!
“Hi Ian! Thank you for those details. When you book a reservation using all points, you do not have to pay a resort fee. You can disregard anything stating otherwise. If we can help with anything else, please let us know. Happy Travels!-JM”. |
Originally Posted by arlflyer
(Post 31229403)
I articulated one very big reason why upthread. And that reason is the fact that most corporate travel policies impose a cap on base rate, with taxes and fees being what they are. So this is an easy way for hoteliers to take price on a core segment without ruffling feathers. |
Originally Posted by enviroian
(Post 31229911)
Okay I just canceled the biltmore because it appears to be really not worth it as rooms are out of date, etc etc.
I just rebooked the embassy suites in old town for 26K points per night. The cost of the stay: PREMIUM ROOM REWARD Honors Reward ID: 042546018 Rate: 57.01 USD Points: + 52000 Points Taxes 7.01 USD Resort Charge 50.00 USD Total for Stay 57.01 USD + 52000 Points I thought you said resort fee is waived with a all points payment? |
Originally Posted by Cledaybuck
(Post 31232585)
We just stayed at the Arizona Biltmore this past spring and really enjoyed it. What exactly are you looking for with this stay? |
Personally I make it a point to avoid hotels with resort fees. Occasionally its unavoidable, but most of the times there are other options with without the resort fees.
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