Apr 2, 2023, 5:01 pm
Last edit by: cblaisd
Hilton Properties Devalued 5k → 10k & 10k → 20k for standard award:
[NAME] [OLD RATE] [NEW RATE]
Loyalty Lobby Article with the List of Hotels that Changed: https://loyaltylobby.com/2019/06/17/hilton-honors-award-chart-changes-june-2019/
[NAME] [OLD RATE] [NEW RATE]
Loyalty Lobby Article with the List of Hotels that Changed: https://loyaltylobby.com/2019/06/17/hilton-honors-award-chart-changes-june-2019/
Consolidated "Points Devaluation" thread
Jun 19, 2019, 10:06 am
#1621
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NYC (LGA, JFK), CT
Programs: Delta Platinum, American Gold, JetBlue Mosaic 4, Marriott Platinum, Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Diamond,
Posts: 4,893
Jun 19, 2019, 10:32 am
#1622
Join Date: Oct 2009
Programs: UA 1K, Hilton ♦ , Hyatt Carbonado, Wyndham ♦, Marriott PE, "Stinking Bum" elsewhere.
Posts: 4,993
Clever observation, my friend. I've used my weekend certs in Bora Bora, the Maldives, Koh Samui, etc. They are a currency that is easy to use and that has appreciated significantly vs points.
Jun 19, 2019, 1:16 pm
#1623
Join Date: Mar 2011
Programs: Delta Skymiles
Posts: 1,982
I am a Hilton Gold via AMEX, so I stay with Hilton now and again. I have to say, their elite benefits are very nice - breakfast, often lounge access as a Gold, but the trade off is the insanely high number of points it takes to redeem.
FOr me, as a more casual and personal paying traveler at the moment, the Free nights seem to be the easiest to earn at Hyatt, but since I will never be a globalist with Hyatt the elite benefits are not that grate.
FOr me, as a more casual and personal paying traveler at the moment, the Free nights seem to be the easiest to earn at Hyatt, but since I will never be a globalist with Hyatt the elite benefits are not that grate.
Jun 19, 2019, 1:33 pm
#1624
Join Date: Apr 2016
Programs: IHG Platinum Elite, AS MVP Gold 75K, HHonors Gold, SPG Gold
Posts: 219
I don't know, I guess I wasn't able to avail myself of the benefit well enough. But you are right, there is a lot of gain in that if you do use it.
Jun 20, 2019, 7:26 am
#1625
Join Date: Nov 2006
Programs: Marriott Platinum, Hilton Diamond, IHG Platinum
Posts: 3,702
I think it's worth around 0.35 CPP. I just don't redeem them unless I get 0.75 CPP, which wasn't hard historically, but is extremely hard now in the low "categories".
Jun 20, 2019, 8:17 am
#1626
Suspended
Join Date: Nov 1999
Posts: 24,153
Heck I needed a hotel for a night next week, usually stayed alittle further away from where I needed to be at a Hampton for 20k, then it went up to 30k now its 40k, the $ rate after MVP is $79 Ouch! I booked with a different chain.
I can fully understand dynamic pricing but it should be a 2 way street just like JetBlue does it, they assign a value to each pt and then multiply it to determine the # of pts needed = the lower the fare the lower amount of pts needed. Seems the airlines and Hilton have instituted a min ripoff amount and no limit to the up side. In my case Hilton would need to be asking just over 20k and not 40k
Definitely time to move on
Last edited by craz; Jun 20, 2019 at 8:00 pm
Jun 20, 2019, 5:11 pm
#1627
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: HH Diamond, Marriott Gold, IHG Gold, Hyatt something
Posts: 33,537
I found that in the past year+ getting .005 was god and agere the days of getting .01 is pretty much over unless one is booking a top hotel @ 95k or so
Heck I needed a hotel for a night next week, usually stayed alittle further away from where I needed to be at a Hampton for 20k, then it went up to 30k now its 40k, the $ rate after MVP is $79 Ouch! I booked with a different chain.
I can fully understand dynamic pricing but it should be a 2 way street just like JetBlue does it, they assign a value to each pt and then multiply it to determine the # of pts needed = the lower the fare the lower amount of pts needed. Seems the airlines and Hilton have instituted a min ripoff amount and no limit to the up side. In my case Hilton would need to be asking just over 20k and not 40k
Definitely time to move on
Heck I needed a hotel for a night next week, usually stayed alittle further away from where I needed to be at a Hampton for 20k, then it went up to 30k now its 40k, the $ rate after MVP is $79 Ouch! I booked with a different chain.
I can fully understand dynamic pricing but it should be a 2 way street just like JetBlue does it, they assign a value to each pt and then multiply it to determine the # of pts needed = the lower the fare the lower amount of pts needed. Seems the airlines and Hilton have instituted a min ripoff amount and no limit to the up side. In my case Hilton would need to be asking just over 20k and not 40k
Definitely time to move on
I routinely burn 300-600k in award points per year, usually in 5 night chunks.
Jun 20, 2019, 10:09 pm
#1628
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,965
Until they pull an IHG / Chase and limit the redemption to below a certain number of points...
Jun 22, 2019, 3:29 am
#1629
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: CT/ Germany - Ich spreche deutsch
Programs: UA 1K, Bonvoy LTTE, HH Dia, HY Expl
Posts: 4,656
Jun 22, 2019, 7:20 am
#1630
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: MEL/YMML
Programs: A3 Gold, Hilton Gold, Hyatt Discoverist, Amex Platinum
Posts: 287
I am a Hilton Gold via AMEX, so I stay with Hilton now and again. I have to say, their elite benefits are very nice - breakfast, often lounge access as a Gold, but the trade off is the insanely high number of points it takes to redeem.
FOr me, as a more casual and personal paying traveler at the moment, the Free nights seem to be the easiest to earn at Hyatt, but since I will never be a globalist with Hyatt the elite benefits are not that grate.
FOr me, as a more casual and personal paying traveler at the moment, the Free nights seem to be the easiest to earn at Hyatt, but since I will never be a globalist with Hyatt the elite benefits are not that grate.
Jun 22, 2019, 2:19 pm
#1631
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,965
Jun 22, 2019, 4:53 pm
#1632
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: HH Diamond, Marriott Gold, IHG Gold, Hyatt something
Posts: 33,537
I had gotten some nice upgrades as a Hilton Gold. Rooms, lounge access, you name it. It really depends on what countries you travel to. I find minimal upgrades in the US, decent in Europe, and much better in Asia.
Diamond is even better.
Diamond is even better.
Jun 22, 2019, 7:33 pm
#1633
Join Date: Aug 2017
Programs: Hilton Diamond, IHG Spire Ambassador, Global Entry
Posts: 2,840
I hope this turns away a lot of the abusers. Hilton is by far and away the best choice for me. Sure the points may be worth less, but between the massive amount I get, it's still a sizable rebate. The real winner for me is having Diamond and a friends and family rate access. You can try to say "well this chain has X" but crunching the numbers, it's still too good here.
Sep 11, 2019, 9:32 pm
#1634
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Eurozone
Programs: LH SEN, HH Gold
Posts: 3,002
I don't see where it's addressed: with this shift, are the hotels receiving the same per-point reimbursement on each point redeemed or was the value per point shifted downward to the detriment of the participating hotel?
Sep 11, 2019, 9:35 pm
#1635
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: NW London and NW Sydney
Programs: BA Diamond, Hilton Bronze, A3 Diamond, IHG *G
Posts: 6,344
AFAIK the amount a hotel is paid for redemptions bears no relation to the amount of points required.