Apr 2, 2023, 5:01 pm
Last edit by: cblaisd
Hilton Properties Devalued 5k → 10k & 10k → 20k for standard award:
[NAME] [OLD RATE] [NEW RATE]
Loyalty Lobby Article with the List of Hotels that Changed: https://loyaltylobby.com/2019/06/17/hilton-honors-award-chart-changes-june-2019/
[NAME] [OLD RATE] [NEW RATE]
Loyalty Lobby Article with the List of Hotels that Changed: https://loyaltylobby.com/2019/06/17/hilton-honors-award-chart-changes-june-2019/
Consolidated "Points Devaluation" thread
Jun 16, 2019, 12:33 pm
#1591
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: HH Diamond, Marriott Gold, IHG Gold, Hyatt something
Posts: 33,539
I was never bothered by any airport noise, and it is down the street a bit. For the points involved, I’d rather stay there than the Conrad or Hilton. I’ve also gotten better upgrades at the HGI. Most hotels in Bali, you’re going go jump in a taxi to go anywhere.
Jun 16, 2019, 12:41 pm
#1592
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 10,965
There are a lot of people who don't care about loyalty programs because of the "the points are going to be worthless and I will never earn enough before they expire" attitude. If the loyalty programs keep changing the goal post for redemptions, more people are going to feel this way and not bother. Maybe that is what they (Hilton,United, etc.) are trying to do but it makes no sense.
Jun 16, 2019, 4:55 pm
#1593
Join Date: Nov 2006
Programs: Marriott Platinum, Hilton Diamond, IHG Platinum
Posts: 3,704
0.5 is the new 0.75, sadly.
Jun 16, 2019, 5:58 pm
#1594
Join Date: Nov 2006
Programs: Marriott Platinum, Hilton Diamond, IHG Platinum
Posts: 3,704
Curious about Jaimito Cartero's view, since you have stayed there. I hate haggling with taxi drivers in Bali, is Grab reliable nearby? (I know it's a no-go in Ubud).
Last edited by italdesign; Jun 16, 2019 at 6:24 pm
Jun 17, 2019, 1:34 am
#1595
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: HH Diamond, Marriott Gold, IHG Gold, Hyatt something
Posts: 33,539
It's pretty close (but not walkable) to some tourist areas like Kuta, Jimbaran, and maybe Seminyak. It has a free shuttle to Kuta once or twice a day, I believe. Kuta and Seminyak seem a bit touristy for me. I enjoyed Sanur this time (where Hyatt Regency is) - it has a good balance. $50 USD goes a long way in Bali accommodation, I'm not sure it's worth the inconvenience to stay at this hotel. It may work for some. I will say this kind of limitation did not stop me from enjoying the somewhat remote Le Meridien Chiang Rai, whose resort environment probably makes it just a bit more convenient. Personally I'd probably save the points for something centrally located like HGI Hanoi, which was still 10k as of 2 days ago. Then again that's one of the last nicely located sweet spots left that I know of (I'm 90% sure it will devaluate in a few months); there's hardly anything left in the low levels...
Curious about Jaimito Cartero's view, since you have stayed there. I hate haggling with taxi drivers in Bali, is Grab reliable nearby? (I know it's a no-go in Ubud).
Curious about Jaimito Cartero's view, since you have stayed there. I hate haggling with taxi drivers in Bali, is Grab reliable nearby? (I know it's a no-go in Ubud).
I’ve had good luck with the online transport companies. I have not been here much since Uber sold off, but will next month, so will report then.
Last edited by Jaimito Cartero; Jun 17, 2019 at 1:43 am
Jun 17, 2019, 9:36 am
#1596
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Join Date: Aug 2014
Programs: Top Tier with all 3 alliances
Posts: 11,663
Around 5-6pm rush hour, it is busy in the area, Grab is not reliable and you may not even be able to get a taxi going back to the hotel. From the hotel it is better...Grab is very reliable for food delivery, but perhaps less so for transport at peak times, a couple of times I tried, but maybe ok other times, don't know. Booking a driver for the day is the best deal, $30-35 for 10 hours, sometimes cheaper with Expedia coupons.
Jun 17, 2019, 9:45 pm
#1598
Moderator: American AAdvantage
Join Date: May 2000
Location: NorCal - SMF area
Programs: AA LT Plat; HH LT Diamond, Maître-plongeur des Muccis
Posts: 62,948
Jun 17, 2019, 11:03 pm
#1599
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: CT/ Germany - Ich spreche deutsch
Programs: UA 1K, Bonvoy LTTE, HH Dia, HY Expl
Posts: 4,656
Conrad Algarve going up to 90k is disappointing! I’m also very surprised they are raising so many hotels in Turkey since paid stays can typically be had at a good rate right now.
Jun 18, 2019, 4:48 am
#1600
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 11,570
Peculiar that categories don’t exist and the jumps are all 10k like the categories were. Lol. There is no evidence they exist.
90k for Conrad Algarve! What a joke! 95k is the WA AMS.
I feel that ceiling (exc WA Maldives) is going away before the year is out.
90k for Conrad Algarve! What a joke! 95k is the WA AMS.
I feel that ceiling (exc WA Maldives) is going away before the year is out.
Jun 18, 2019, 6:15 am
#1601
Join Date: Oct 2009
Programs: UA 1K, Hilton ♦ , Hyatt Carbonado, Wyndham ♦, Marriott PE, "Stinking Bum" elsewhere.
Posts: 4,993
Strange Logic.
This latest points devaluation is very strange because, at a standard 10K points increase, the lower end properties are seeing 30-100% increases in price, while the higher end properties might see only a 10-20% increase. It's almost as if someone screwed-up in IT and just did a flat, brute-force increase without thinking about the logic behind it.
Last edited by zombietooth; Sep 12, 2019 at 7:00 am
Jun 18, 2019, 6:17 am
#1602
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NYC (LGA, JFK), CT
Programs: Delta Platinum, American Gold, JetBlue Mosaic 4, Marriott Platinum, Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Diamond,
Posts: 4,893
This latest points devaluation is very strange because at a standard 10K points increase, the lower end properties are seeing 30-100% increases in price, while the higher end properties might see only a 10-20% increase. It's almost as if someone screwed-up in IT and just did a flat, blunt-force increase without thinking about the logic behind it.
Jun 18, 2019, 6:21 am
#1603
Join Date: May 2011
Location: NYC (LGA, JFK), CT
Programs: Delta Platinum, American Gold, JetBlue Mosaic 4, Marriott Platinum, Hyatt Explorist, Hilton Diamond,
Posts: 4,893
Pretty funny that the Hilton SF Union Square and Parc 55 are both 70,000 points while the St Regis SF is at 60,000 Marriott points. At the 35,000 to 50,000 point level, you can get a whole lot more with Marriott. Obviously Hilton points so much easier to earn, but still...
Jun 18, 2019, 8:11 am
#1604
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Huntsville, AL
Programs: DL DM 1.929MM, Hilton Lifetime Diamond, IHG Platinum, Avis CHM, Marriott Titanium (lifetime gold)
Posts: 7,858
Jun 18, 2019, 8:17 am
#1605
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Europe
Programs: Hilton Honors, Marriott Bonvoy, Accor, Hyatt, (Former IHG Ambassador)
Posts: 1,388
Link here:
https://loyaltylobby.com/2019/06/17/...ges-june-2019/
Pdf file (32 pages long !)
https://loyaltylobby.com/wp-content/...-June-2019.pdf