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Hilton Properties Devalued 5k → 10k & 10k → 20k for standard award:
[NAME] [OLD RATE] [NEW RATE]
Loyalty Lobby Article with the List of Hotels that Changed: https://loyaltylobby.com/2019/06/17/hilton-honors-award-chart-changes-june-2019/
[NAME] [OLD RATE] [NEW RATE]
Loyalty Lobby Article with the List of Hotels that Changed: https://loyaltylobby.com/2019/06/17/hilton-honors-award-chart-changes-june-2019/
Consolidated "Points Devaluation" thread
#1561
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: MSP
Programs: AA Plat Pto, IHG Plat, HH Gold, Hyatt Globalist
Posts: 2,536
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#1562
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Hilton, Hyatt House, Del Taco
Posts: 5,375
#1563
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Window Seat
Programs: National Executive, HHonors Gold, IHG Platinum, Hyatt Visitor
Posts: 2,495
#1564
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Homeless
Programs: Hyatt Glob; Hilton Dia; Marriott AMB; Accor Dia; IHG Dia Amb; GHA Tit
Posts: 4,835
I realize many people have no interest in these top properties and then in that case the correct conclusion might be that the Hilton program is possibly a bad fit, unfortunately. But for top properties Hilton remains valuable, in fact sometimes more valuable (relatively speaking) than Hyatt and Marriott. Only problem is that it's only <1% of Hilton properties.
#1565
Moderator Hilton Honors, Travel News, West, The Suggestion Box, Smoking Lounge & DiningBuzz
Join Date: Jun 2000
Programs: Honors Diamond, Hertz Presidents Circle, National Exec Elite
Posts: 36,018
The Lordsburg and Deming, New Mexico, Hampton Inns are still 10K
#1567
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: PHL/EWR
Programs: AA, US, WN, HHonors Diamond, Hyatt Plat
Posts: 1,528
My strategy is to earn the points by paying cash at mid-range hotels; thanks to non-stop promos plus credit card bonuses and you can indeed earn massive amounts of points. Then spend them on the high-end hotels. I cannot remember the last time I used points for anything except a top hotel or a low-end hotel at 5-10k points, except for a quick night booked at the last minute here and there for 30-60k pts when cash rates were abnormally high and I was stuck in a bind without being able to plan ahead.
I realize many people have no interest in these top properties and then in that case the correct conclusion might be that the Hilton program is possibly a bad fit, unfortunately. But for top properties Hilton remains valuable, in fact sometimes more valuable (relatively speaking) than Hyatt and Marriott. Only problem is that it's only <1% of Hilton properties.
I realize many people have no interest in these top properties and then in that case the correct conclusion might be that the Hilton program is possibly a bad fit, unfortunately. But for top properties Hilton remains valuable, in fact sometimes more valuable (relatively speaking) than Hyatt and Marriott. Only problem is that it's only <1% of Hilton properties.
Looking to burn more points I booked two nights at 30k MCO properties, one was around $170 the other over $200 cash rate.
This leaves me with 280K points which still gets me five nights at the Doubletree Resort in Key West for a trip next year so I have shifted my credit card spending elsewhere.
#1568
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: PHL
Programs: HH Lifetime Diamond, AA EXP, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 583
My strategy is to earn the points by paying cash at mid-range hotels; thanks to non-stop promos plus credit card bonuses and you can indeed earn massive amounts of points. Then spend them on the high-end hotels. I cannot remember the last time I used points for anything except a top hotel or a low-end hotel at 5-10k points, except for a quick night booked at the last minute here and there for 30-60k pts when cash rates were abnormally high and I was stuck in a bind without being able to plan ahead.
I realize many people have no interest in these top properties and then in that case the correct conclusion might be that the Hilton program is possibly a bad fit, unfortunately. But for top properties Hilton remains valuable, in fact sometimes more valuable (relatively speaking) than Hyatt and Marriott. Only problem is that it's only <1% of Hilton properties.
I realize many people have no interest in these top properties and then in that case the correct conclusion might be that the Hilton program is possibly a bad fit, unfortunately. But for top properties Hilton remains valuable, in fact sometimes more valuable (relatively speaking) than Hyatt and Marriott. Only problem is that it's only <1% of Hilton properties.
#1569
Join Date: May 2007
Location: ATL
Programs: Hilton Diamond, Marriott, AA, DL
Posts: 52
We stay there 2-3 times a year. It used to be 40K consistently. I can't find anything less than 48K checking randomly through Feb '20.
#1570
Join Date: Oct 2009
Programs: UA 1K, Hilton ♦ , Hyatt Carbonado, Wyndham ♦, Marriott PE, "Stinking Bum" elsewhere.
Posts: 4,991
Property Reimbursement Rate?
Does anyone know how much a property gets paid by Hilton Corporate per point for award stays?
Or, is perhaps the reimbursement rate dependent only on each individual property's revenue management dataset and have nothing to do with points at all?
Or, is perhaps the reimbursement rate dependent only on each individual property's revenue management dataset and have nothing to do with points at all?
Last edited by zombietooth; Jun 15, 2019 at 1:08 pm
#1571
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: PHL/EWR
Programs: AA, US, WN, HHonors Diamond, Hyatt Plat
Posts: 1,528
From what I read it is a token amount if the property has available rooms and close to the cash rate if it is fully occupied.
#1572
Join Date: Dec 2001
Posts: 385
I booked the Waldorf London for 5 nights May 2020 using points!! The location in the West End is perfect. Fifth night free with points . After reading these posts, I decided best to book . If I have to cancel, points will be returned. Wish there was a list of hotels and their points.
#1574
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Hilton, Hyatt House, Del Taco
Posts: 5,375
#1575
Join Date: Oct 2009
Programs: UA 1K, Hilton ♦ , Hyatt Carbonado, Wyndham ♦, Marriott PE, "Stinking Bum" elsewhere.
Posts: 4,991
So, if that is the case, then most of the benefit from the latest point increases accrues to Hilton Corporate, not to the property owners. In fact, a mundane property will likely see points redemptions decrease significantly because it will be perceived as a poor value, and it is likely that they would have many more unsold room-nights per year and less total revenue.
Last edited by zombietooth; Jun 15, 2019 at 4:22 pm