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Explain why I have 21 nights already with 0 stays (Amex Plat)

Explain why I have 21 nights already with 0 stays (Amex Plat)

Old Feb 2, 2019, 12:13 am
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It‘s a very interesting rule for everyone, who gets his status by credit card or gifted. He gets rollover nights based on a status, he didn’t have last year and won‘t have the following year. I‘m Diamond, I will be Diamond and I have 21 rollover nights after 31 nights last year.

On the other hand it doesn’t really matter, because most of them will get their status by cc in the next year as well. But who cancel his cc should be aware of it.
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Old Feb 2, 2019, 9:50 am
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Originally Posted by thbe
It‘s a very interesting rule for everyone, who gets his status by credit card or gifted. He gets rollover nights based on a status, he didn’t have last year and won‘t have the following year. I‘m Diamond, I will be Diamond and I have 21 rollover nights after 31 nights last year.

On the other hand it doesn’t really matter, because most of them will get their status by cc in the next year as well. But who cancel his cc should be aware of it.
Well, I can get gold from my Amex card...I wonder if doing that will reduce my diamond requirements . This seems like a loophole, I would love the Hilton lurkers thought on this
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Old Feb 2, 2019, 10:42 am
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Originally Posted by lcohen999
Well, I can get gold from my Amex card...I wonder if doing that will reduce my diamond requirements . This seems like a loophole, I would love the Hilton lurkers thought on this
No, it does not reduce your Diamond requirements. You need 60 nights to earn Diamond. Your credit card gives you Gold status, but zero nights credit.
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Old Feb 2, 2019, 1:57 pm
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Guess once you hit Lifetime Diamond you don't see any rollover nights. Stayed about 100 nights last year but my current YTD is 1 stay 2 nights.
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Old Feb 2, 2019, 4:26 pm
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Originally Posted by lcohen999
Well, I can get gold from my Amex card...I wonder if doing that will reduce my diamond requirements . This seems like a loophole, I would love the Hilton lurkers thought on this
It doesn't change the requirements, but it does create some interesting situations.

For example, if you stay 40 nights every year, then you'll be gold.

But if you stay 35 nights every year, then you'll be diamond every second year (due to 25 nights rollover), and gold the alternate year (due to the credit card).

ie, staying more will actually result in lower status...
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Old Feb 3, 2019, 2:22 am
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For people who normally have far in excess of 60 nights:

Does that mean that we are effectively "double-dipping" the 10k bonus pts we earn for each 10 nights? For example, not only do we earn 10k pts at 70, 80, 90, 100 nights... etc. but the rollover to the subsequent year means that we'll earn more 10k pts tranches than we would have otherwise without the rollover? So in effect I should be thinking that we are essentially earning 20k bonus points per 10 nights after 60 nights, rather than only the regular 10k pts.

With a maximum of 60 rollover nights, that means an automatic 60k bonus points to people who stay 60+ nights because we'll end up at a minimum of 120 nights.
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Old Feb 3, 2019, 11:21 am
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Originally Posted by escape4
Does that mean that we are effectively "double-dipping" the 10k bonus pts we earn for each 10 nights?
No. Rollover points only count for the next years status, not for the bonus points.
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Old Feb 3, 2019, 8:58 pm
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Originally Posted by docbert
No. Rollover points only count for the next years status, not for the bonus points.
Ok thanks - that's odd. So someone with let's say 43 rollover nights will hit the 40k bonus (which is normally after 60 nights) at 103 nights on the counter? Not exactly the most intuitive.
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Old Feb 6, 2019, 10:40 am
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Originally Posted by Baze
Guess once you hit Lifetime Diamond you don't see any rollover nights. Stayed about 100 nights last year but my current YTD is 1 stay 2 nights.
Not in my case:

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