Compulsory $3.29 “gratuity” for Honors breakfast
#1
Compulsory $3.29 “gratuity” for Honors breakfast
Greetings from a storm in NYC.
i was chased out of the breakfast room of the HGI Times Square as I neglected to request the check for my complimentary breakfast; which would have a “15% gratuity” of $3.29 on it. The receipt suggested I may wish to add a further 15%, 18% or 20% to it.
Call me ungrateful; and yes I’m British, and my standard is to leave 15-20% for lunch/dinner and a dollar (or two for exceptional service) at a buffet, but isn’t this taking things too far?
The service was minimal. Seat yourself, serve yourself, top up your own juice (they did bring me one, though) and they never cleared up. It was empty (7am Sunday morning).
Is this what I should accept in the US? Have I been screwing servers at breakfast for years by only giving the odd dollar, rather than a notional 15%?
i was chased out of the breakfast room of the HGI Times Square as I neglected to request the check for my complimentary breakfast; which would have a “15% gratuity” of $3.29 on it. The receipt suggested I may wish to add a further 15%, 18% or 20% to it.
Call me ungrateful; and yes I’m British, and my standard is to leave 15-20% for lunch/dinner and a dollar (or two for exceptional service) at a buffet, but isn’t this taking things too far?
The service was minimal. Seat yourself, serve yourself, top up your own juice (they did bring me one, though) and they never cleared up. It was empty (7am Sunday morning).
Is this what I should accept in the US? Have I been screwing servers at breakfast for years by only giving the odd dollar, rather than a notional 15%?
#2
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No, you should not expect that in the US. I can't recall ever experiencing anything like it, and I have lived in the US for over 60 years. I have tipped at various Diamond breakfast situations when there is at least some service, usually 2 or 3 dollars.
i have seen strong suggestions, but never "required" tipping. I think I would be writing to the GM.
i have seen strong suggestions, but never "required" tipping. I think I would be writing to the GM.
#3
Join Date: Apr 2001
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Don't Be Intimidated...
I agree with BlueZebra. I have lived my entire life in the United States and am somewhat aghast at how the tipping environment has gotten out of hand here. For a full service restaurant with satisfactory service, 15% is still appropriate in my book. 20% or so if the service is exceptional. For buffets and other self-serve situations (such as counter service/fast food) maybe a dollar or two or three if I am made to feel so inclined by the service.
In contrast, suggested tips pre-printed on the receipt of 18%-20%-22% are merely a grab for money. Restaurant employers condone this because it lowers the restaurant's requirement to pay wages directly to the employee. This is why we are seeing tip jars in such unlikely places as Dry Cleaners.
For the breakfast that you described, the $3 and change on your bill was plenty. Please don't allow yourself to be intimidated into giving more for mediocre service.
-Goat
In contrast, suggested tips pre-printed on the receipt of 18%-20%-22% are merely a grab for money. Restaurant employers condone this because it lowers the restaurant's requirement to pay wages directly to the employee. This is why we are seeing tip jars in such unlikely places as Dry Cleaners.
For the breakfast that you described, the $3 and change on your bill was plenty. Please don't allow yourself to be intimidated into giving more for mediocre service.
-Goat
#4
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: AZ
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Had a similar situation a year ago at the HGI Long Island City. My husband met with the general manager and he paled when he heard about the waiter chasing us out of the restaurant. Because of that and some room maintenance issues, we received a free night in compensation. I haven't booked at a HGI since.
#5
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Greetings from a storm in NYC.
i was chased out of the breakfast room of the HGI Times Square as I neglected to request the check for my complimentary breakfast; which would have a “15% gratuity” of $3.29 on it. The receipt suggested I may wish to add a further 15%, 18% or 20% to it.
Call me ungrateful; and yes I’m British, and my standard is to leave 15-20% for lunch/dinner and a dollar (or two for exceptional service) at a buffet, but isn’t this taking things too far?
The service was minimal. Seat yourself, serve yourself, top up your own juice (they did bring me one, though) and they never cleared up. It was empty (7am Sunday morning).
Is this what I should accept in the US? Have I been screwing servers at breakfast for years by only giving the odd dollar, rather than a notional 15%?
i was chased out of the breakfast room of the HGI Times Square as I neglected to request the check for my complimentary breakfast; which would have a “15% gratuity” of $3.29 on it. The receipt suggested I may wish to add a further 15%, 18% or 20% to it.
Call me ungrateful; and yes I’m British, and my standard is to leave 15-20% for lunch/dinner and a dollar (or two for exceptional service) at a buffet, but isn’t this taking things too far?
The service was minimal. Seat yourself, serve yourself, top up your own juice (they did bring me one, though) and they never cleared up. It was empty (7am Sunday morning).
Is this what I should accept in the US? Have I been screwing servers at breakfast for years by only giving the odd dollar, rather than a notional 15%?
This situation is analogous to the people who use their Priority Pass memberships at select airports where PP has partnerships with restaurants to provide PP members up to $28 per person per visit of free food/drink. Yes, the meal is "free"......but from the serving staff's perspective, they still have a living to make and tips - like it or not - are a significant component of their wage structure. So does one tip the "normal" rate based upon on the imputed cost of the meal (which is presented on the receipt) or does one not leave a tip because 15-20% of free is zero?
As to your question "is this what I should accept in the US".......yes, a single experience at a single establishment that is part of a large corporation is representative of the entire country.
#6
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I tend to tip at one Hilton location because they do bring us beverages (except for juices) and also bring up to go cups so we can have a refill to drink while out on the road. But yeah some of the tipping has gotten out of hand. It seems too much of a norm to place a tip spot on the check even in places where there is zero table service. I think they hope to guilt you into giving them more money. Sit down restaurants and bars are a different story.
#7
Was the $3.29 added to your room bill at checkout? If not, then it wasn't "compulsory", it was suggested. The "receipt for a complimentary breakfast" concept - from my experience - appears to be unique to the Hilton Garden Inn brand. I've experienced it in an HGI in Tampa; I found it odd but didn't get too worked up about it (hint, hint.)
I was chased with a receipt that had no charges on it at all (even a zero charge) other than “Gratuity $3.29”.
I would not at all be surprised to be asked for a zero bill and be given the OPTION to add a gratuity; this is normal and I am happy with that.
Regarding your statement about Priority Pass lounges, I was not aware it was custom to leave gratuity after serving yourself at a buffet?
#8
Join Date: Nov 2008
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Thank you everyone for your reply.
I was chased with a receipt that had no charges on it at all (even a zero charge) other than “Gratuity $3.29”.
I would not at all be surprised to be asked for a zero bill and be given the OPTION to add a gratuity; this is normal and I am happy with that.
Regarding your statement about Priority Pass lounges, I was not aware it was custom to leave gratuity after serving yourself at a buffet?
#9
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I heard that there was one rude employee at one shop in Glasgow. Is that the custom in Scotland?
Of course, the tip is not required. Required means that it shows up on your statement. The fact that the employee "chased" you down suggests that he wanted a signature to authorize the room charge.
It is common practice by most people to leave a few dollars at a buffet and a full standard tip of 15-20% at a full service meal. This is the case whether the meal is paid for you by in cash or is included in your room rate in one way or another. The reason is quite simply that the staff don't really care how you come about to get fed, they still work for the same wages.
Making comparisons between countries and their customs is a fool's errand. Part of travel is adapting.
As with man
Of course, the tip is not required. Required means that it shows up on your statement. The fact that the employee "chased" you down suggests that he wanted a signature to authorize the room charge.
It is common practice by most people to leave a few dollars at a buffet and a full standard tip of 15-20% at a full service meal. This is the case whether the meal is paid for you by in cash or is included in your room rate in one way or another. The reason is quite simply that the staff don't really care how you come about to get fed, they still work for the same wages.
Making comparisons between countries and their customs is a fool's errand. Part of travel is adapting.
As with man
#10
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Greetings from a storm in NYC.
The service was minimal. Seat yourself, serve yourself, top up your own juice (they did bring me one, though) and they never cleared up. It was empty (7am Sunday morning).
Is this what I should accept in the US? Have I been screwing servers at breakfast for years by only giving the odd dollar, rather than a notional 15%?
The service was minimal. Seat yourself, serve yourself, top up your own juice (they did bring me one, though) and they never cleared up. It was empty (7am Sunday morning).
Is this what I should accept in the US? Have I been screwing servers at breakfast for years by only giving the odd dollar, rather than a notional 15%?
In small towns, I usually leave a tip of a dollar or two per person.... a bit more in big cities.
Bob H
Last edited by BobH; May 28, 2018 at 7:35 am
#11
Join Date: Aug 2008
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This is a service fail and a design flaw.
These hgi buffets are usually pretty good. I especially like the pancakes. But there is no consistency with service style or quality. Sometimes you seat your self and they take your order like a restaurant. Sometimes you put your order in and take a number and the food is delivered. Sometimes it’s self serve. So as a customer you never know what to expect. If they are friendly and bring coffe and food, they get a tip. If they pull back and let you do everything then no tip or miminal.
The scenario described by OP is not acceptable. I would have gotten the manager. I’ve had a few bad experiences at high. One time they refused to cook an order of pancakes and pointed to French toast on the buffet. I said this was not acceptable. Then she said the cook was not ready. I explained again that I was there during business hours and wanted pancakes. Got them eventually.
The scenario described by OP is not acceptable. I would have gotten the manager. I’ve had a few bad experiences at high. One time they refused to cook an order of pancakes and pointed to French toast on the buffet. I said this was not acceptable. Then she said the cook was not ready. I explained again that I was there during business hours and wanted pancakes. Got them eventually.
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One hates to think what they did to your pancakes while you were not looking!
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This happened to me at a full service Hilton (Hilton Times Square). The waiter chased after me to sign the bill and leave a tip.
Last edited by Andriyko; May 27, 2018 at 10:48 am
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A favorite restaurant in NY will occasionally have a 50% off their tasting menu promo. When the bill comes they include a short, polite note asking to you consider tipping on the undiscounted balance. I don't see this as unreasonable,.