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Waldorf Astoria Maldives Ithaafushi {MDV}

Waldorf Astoria Maldives Ithaafushi {MDV}

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Welcome to the Waldorf Astoria Maldives Ithaafushi Wiki!
Notes: All prices are in US Dollars and are exclusive of taxes unless specified (by ++)

EXTRA CHARGES - BE AWARE FOLKS!
• A compulsory Christmas Eve Gala Dinner supplement of US$488++ per adult and US$150++ per child applies for stays on 24 December 2019
• A compulsory New Year's Eve Dinner supplement of US$800++ per adult and US$150++ per child applies for stays on 31 December 2019
This lamb to the slaughter approach will force a couple to cough up an extra $3176.63, or a family of 4 (2 adults & 2 kids) $3915.83, if you want to celebrate Xmas and New Years here



Expected Opening: July 01, 2019 (according to official website, see below for link)

There is currently not a lot of solid information on this resort, its prices, room types and amenities. More information will be added bit by bit as it becomes available

Tax Information
• 10% Service Charge (levied by resort)
• 12% T-GST (Tourist Goods & Services Tax, levied by the Maldivian government, current as of Oct 1, 2014)
• Total tax is 23.2%, not 22% as one would think. Example; $100 + 10% = $110, then add 12% on to $110 for a total of $123.20
• • Tip: To work out prices before the 23.2% taxes, multiply by 0.81169, i.e; 123.2 * 0.81169 = 100
• A new Green Tax of $6pp/pn (levied by the Maldivian government) has been introduced starting from 1 November 2015. Points/Redemption bookings are exempt from the tax for up to two guests per room
Note: The $8pp/pn Bed Tax (previously levied by the Maldivian government) was abolished on Dec 1, 2014

Transfers To and From Resort
How: WA Ithaafushi is located in South Malι Atoll, southwest of Velana International Airport [MLE] (also known as Malι International Airport, previously known as Ibrahim Nasir International Airport) and can be reached by speedboat. There may be an option of private yacht transfer (30 mins from Malι) but this is presumably to be announced at a later date

Resort Information / F&B / Spa / Activities
• WA Ithaafushi is made up of three islands
• The resort has 10 restaurants / bars
• There are 2 standalone OWVs (Over Water Villas) and 121 villas in total
• The kids club (one of the biggest in the Maldives) is for children between 4 to 11 years
• Click here to visit the resort's website for more information


Prices - Accommodation:

***** July 2019 Figures *****
• 2 Bedroom Beach Villa with Pool USD 3850
• 2 Bedroom Over Water Villa with Pool USD 4350

***** October 2019 Figures *****
• Beach Villa USD 2100
• Grand Beach Villa USD 2300
• Reef Villa USD 2300
• Grand Reef Villa USD 2500
• Overwater Villa USD 2500
• Grand Overwater Villa USD 2700


***** Upgrade Cost*****
Oct 2019
Reef Villa $200++
OWV $400++


Villa Types and Abbreviations used in this thread (listed in order from most basic to most luxurious)

-- BVs (Beach Villas) --

BV (Beach Villa)
GBV (Grand Beach Villa)
RV (Reef Villa, presumably Garden Villa shown in the pre-opening promo video)
GRV (Grand Reef Villa, presumably also a type of Garden Villa shown in the pre-opening promo video)

-- OWVs (Over Water Villas) --

OV (Overwater Villa)
GOV (Grand Overwater Villa)



Travel & Safety Information
• The Maldives is listed in Category 1 (the highest category) on the WHO Zika virus classification table. However, don't let that scare you because as of April 13, 2017 there has only been one confirmed case of Zika in the Maldives
• Click here for information related to the single Zika infection in the Maldives (reported in January of that year)


Contact
• General Enquiries: [email protected]
• Reservations Department: TBA
• Tel: +960-4000-300


Weather:
Note: since the resort is close to Mahibadhoo (where there is a weather station), I have added this info from the Conrad Maldives thread as both resorts are close by and the weather will be the same as far as forecasts go (MaldivesFreak)
• General info on weather in the Maldives: Link 1 Link 2 (Maldivian government website)
• Recommended Android weather app: eWeather HD. See this post for detailed info on the app, settings, tips and general weather info (Courtesy of MaldivesFreak)
• Want to get an idea about the weather in the month of August? Click here to read a post from a FT member that spends 2 weeks at Rangali during this month (Courtesy of Splotly)


Pictures (resort under construction):
• January, 2018 Link to post
• June, 2018 Link to post
• Approx October, 2018 Link to post
• January, 2019 Link to post
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Old Apr 9, 19, 2:42 pm
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A money-grab, pure and simple

Originally Posted by sydneyflyer12 View Post
Charging as much for a 30 min "yacht" ride as the StR charges for a 45 min seaplane transfer is certainly an interesting pricing strategy...
It's all part and parcel of their lamb to the slaughter approach. I mean forcing a couple an extra $3176.63, or a family of 4 with 2 adults and 2 kids $3915.83, if they wanted to celebrate Xmas and New Years there is just asking for the place to be barren of all those whose money doesn't grow on trees. What if I'm a Muslim or some other religion and I don't celebrate Christmas or the new year. What if I'm an atheist or agnostic or Hindu or whatever. Why should I have a festival, or two, rammed down my throat and be charged the earth for it?! I would differ and say it's not a pricing strategy, it's an ugly corporate money-grab.

Oh, and yeah, added to the wiki in bold red, enlarged text. Moved to the top where it belongs.....


Originally Posted by Tilly71 View Post
I wonder how long the maximum wait would be for a transfer as I've seen no mention of a lounge.
Well, an hour return and add lets say two, 15-minute periods to get the passengers and their luggage loaded and offloaded. That's at least 90min.

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Old Apr 10, 19, 8:43 am
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Originally Posted by MaldivesFreak View Post
It's all part and parcel of their lamb to the slaughter approach. I mean forcing a couple an extra $3176.63, or a family of 4 with 2 adults and 2 kids $3915.83, if they wanted to celebrate Xmas and New Years there is just asking for the place to be barren of all those whose money doesn't grow on trees. What if I'm a Muslim or some other religion and I don't celebrate Christmas or the new year. What if I'm an atheist or agnostic or Hindu or whatever. Why should I have a festival, or two, rammed down my throat. I would differ and say it's not a pricing strategy, it's an ugly corporate money-grab.

Oh, and yeah, added to the wiki in bold red, enlarged text.



Well, an hour return and add lets say two, 15-minute periods to get the passengers and their luggage loaded and offloaded. That's at least 90min.
They are charging a lot of money for guests to use the transfer provided and not potentially have the use of a decent lounge whilst maybe waiting an hour for the next transfer. I can see them being slated if people pay 2k a night and have to sit and wait for a transfer not accommodated in a lounge. Wonder if they strike up a deal with the Conrad Lounge...
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Old Apr 10, 19, 11:04 am
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There was some talk about this earlier in the thread. I assume that they will have the use of the Conrad's new lounge if they are not going to build their own.
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Old Apr 10, 19, 12:57 pm
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A lot of negativity. This place not off to a great start...
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Old Apr 10, 19, 1:09 pm
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Those surcharges for Christmas and NYE are absolutely insane. I assume their room rates will be astronomical at that time also since it is peak season so why do they need to charge even more for Christmas and NYE? Madness.
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Old Apr 10, 19, 1:18 pm
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Originally Posted by Hawkeyefan View Post
A lot of negativity. This place not off to a great start...
Suits. They have no idea what the people they are charging actually think. Either that or we, i.e; normal folks who don't have oil wealth (AKA: not their target market) are in the tiny minority that will make up <5% of their clientele.
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Old Apr 10, 19, 1:19 pm
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Originally Posted by pineapple_09 View Post
Those surcharges for Christmas and NYE are absolutely insane. I assume their room rates will be astronomical at that time also since it is peak season so why do they need to charge even more for Christmas and NYE? Madness.
I did a dummy booking around Christmas and NYE and the lowest room rate I could find was $3,500 per night. So, an 10-night stay for two guests from 12/23 to 1/2 is:

$34,960 (room rate)
$2,576 (mandatory meal charges)
$4,674 (taxes)
$3,496 (Service Charge of 10% per room per stay)

$45,706 (GRAND TOTAL)

I made another dummy booking for a random week in October and rooms were $1,800/night or 120k points which is a great redemption value.
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Old Apr 10, 19, 3:33 pm
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Originally Posted by aww3583 View Post
I did a dummy booking around Christmas and NYE and the lowest room rate I could find was $3,500 per night. So, an 10-night stay for two guests from 12/23 to 1/2 is:

$34,960 (room rate)
$2,576 (mandatory meal charges)
$4,674 (taxes)
$3,496 (Service Charge of 10% per room per stay)

$45,706 (GRAND TOTAL)
Your calculations are off. The taxes are calculated (as per the wiki) at 23.2%, so it would be $46,244.35. Then you'd have to add the Green Tax which is $6pppn, adding $120 for a grand total of $46,364.35.

Originally Posted by aww3583 View Post
I made another dummy booking for a random week in October and rooms were $1,800/night or 120k points which is a great redemption value.
I assume they aren't going the route of other places where they have the Festive Season prices roughly 3.5 - 4 times what the low season prices are. I guess even their blatant greediness doesn't blind them to the fact that they aren't going to get a lot of takers at $7K per night for a standard villa over Xmas / New Year.....
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Old Apr 10, 19, 5:13 pm
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I will not travel to the Maldives for Christmas and New Year, so my opinion might not be worth much. That said, is it not fairly standard for high-end resorts to have such mandatory charges / dinners during such events? If they charge too much then they won't fill the rooms, and they are not stupid, they will adjust down. But if they can fill the rooms, then good for them.

Personally if I do not want to celebrate a certain event then I try to avoid staying in hotels which do celebrate such events, and that consequently have high rates. For example, if I don't want to pay a lot for my room at new year then I might go to China (for example) where January 1st is not as important of a date than in many other countries. And if I must travel on a specific date and it's expensive, well it's because lots of other people like me also must travel for that date so of course it costs a lot
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Old Apr 10, 19, 5:40 pm
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I will not travel to the Maldives for Christmas and New Year, so my opinion might not be worth much. That said, is it not fairly standard for high-end resorts to have such mandatory charges / dinners during such events? If they charge too much then they won't fill the rooms, and they are not stupid, they will adjust down. But if they can fill the rooms, then good for them.

Personally if I do not want to celebrate a certain event then I try to avoid staying in hotels which do celebrate such events, and that consequently have high rates. For example, if I don't want to pay a lot for my room at new year then I might go to China (for example) where January 1st is not as important of a date than in many other countries. And if I must travel on a specific date and it's expensive, well it's because lots of other people like me also must travel for that date so of course it costs a lot
Pretty much how I feel as well. As much as it's annoying for those paying with points who wouldn't normally be able to afford a resort like this (like myself), it's standard practice for Maldives resorts and they seem to have absolutely no problem booking out the holiday period.
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Old Apr 11, 19, 5:04 am
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I don't get why there are already 27 Google reviews for this place?! Some are workers which is kind of cool to see their development/construction pics. But a lot are just random no comment reviews and surprisingly the reviews have a couple 1s scattered in there too
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Old Apr 11, 19, 8:38 am
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Originally Posted by htran88 View Post
I don't get why there are already 27 Google reviews for this place?! Some are workers which is kind of cool to see their development/construction pics. But a lot are just random no comment reviews and surprisingly the reviews have a couple 1s scattered in there too
I presume at some point Hilton will get those “non-reviews” removed. I know if it were my business I would.

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Old Apr 11, 19, 12:49 pm
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Does anyone take notice of Google Reviews?!
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Old Apr 12, 19, 10:40 am
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Originally Posted by MaldivesFreak View Post
Suits. They have no idea what the people they are charging actually think. Either that or we, i.e; normal folks who don't have oil wealth (AKA: not their target market) are in the tiny minority that will make up <5% of their clientele.
Your right about a lot of us not being the target market. It would be a once/lifetime thing for our family, with airline and Hilton pts and still would be 5 figures with everything else.
Place probably does not cater to firm middle classers....
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Old Apr 12, 19, 1:52 pm
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Hey, I just had an idea. Why don't they do a promo with the slogan; 'A slick, half price deal!'. "Prove you're not an oil magnate and get 50% off yacht transfers and gala dinners!"
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