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Waldorf Astoria Maldives Ithaafushi {MDV}

Waldorf Astoria Maldives Ithaafushi {MDV}

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Welcome to the Waldorf Astoria Maldives Ithaafushi Wiki!
Notes: All prices are in US Dollars and are exclusive of taxes unless specified (by ++)

EXTRA CHARGES - BE AWARE FOLKS!
• A compulsory Christmas Eve Gala Dinner supplement of US$488++ per adult and US$150++ per child applies for stays on 24 December 2019
• A compulsory New Year's Eve Dinner supplement of US$800++ per adult and US$150++ per child applies for stays on 31 December 2019
This lamb to the slaughter approach will force a couple to cough up an extra $3176.63, or a family of 4 (2 adults & 2 kids) $3915.83, if you want to celebrate Xmas and New Years here



Expected Opening: July 01, 2019 (according to official website, see below for link)

There is currently not a lot of solid information on this resort, its prices, room types and amenities. More information will be added bit by bit as it becomes available

Tax Information
• 10% Service Charge (levied by resort)
• 12% T-GST (Tourist Goods & Services Tax, levied by the Maldivian government, current as of Oct 1, 2014)
• Total tax is 23.2%, not 22% as one would think. Example; $100 + 10% = $110, then add 12% on to $110 for a total of $123.20
• • Tip: To work out prices before the 23.2% taxes, multiply by 0.81169, i.e; 123.2 * 0.81169 = 100
• A new Green Tax of $6pp/pn (levied by the Maldivian government) has been introduced starting from 1 November 2015. Points/Redemption bookings are exempt from the tax for up to two guests per room
Note: The $8pp/pn Bed Tax (previously levied by the Maldivian government) was abolished on Dec 1, 2014

Transfers To and From Resort
How: WA Ithaafushi is located in South Malι Atoll, southwest of Velana International Airport [MLE] (also known as Malι International Airport, previously known as Ibrahim Nasir International Airport) and can be reached by speedboat. There may be an option of private yacht transfer (30 mins from Malι) but this is presumably to be announced at a later date

Resort Information / F&B / Spa / Activities
• WA Ithaafushi is made up of three islands
• The resort has 10 restaurants / bars
• There are 2 standalone OWVs (Over Water Villas) and 121 villas in total
• The kids club (one of the biggest in the Maldives) is for children between 4 to 11 years
• Click here to visit the resort's website for more information


Prices - Accommodation:

***** July 2019 Figures *****
• 2 Bedroom Beach Villa with Pool USD 3850
• 2 Bedroom Over Water Villa with Pool USD 4350

***** October 2019 Figures *****
• Beach Villa USD 2100
• Grand Beach Villa USD 2300
• Reef Villa USD 2300
• Grand Reef Villa USD 2500
• Overwater Villa USD 2500
• Grand Overwater Villa USD 2700


***** Upgrade Cost*****
Oct 2019
Reef Villa $200++
OWV $400++


Villa Types and Abbreviations used in this thread (listed in order from most basic to most luxurious)

-- BVs (Beach Villas) --

BV (Beach Villa)
GBV (Grand Beach Villa)
RV (Reef Villa, presumably Garden Villa shown in the pre-opening promo video)
GRV (Grand Reef Villa, presumably also a type of Garden Villa shown in the pre-opening promo video)

-- OWVs (Over Water Villas) --

OV (Overwater Villa)
GOV (Grand Overwater Villa)



Travel & Safety Information
• The Maldives is listed in Category 1 (the highest category) on the WHO Zika virus classification table. However, don't let that scare you because as of April 13, 2017 there has only been one confirmed case of Zika in the Maldives
• Click here for information related to the single Zika infection in the Maldives (reported in January of that year)


Contact
• General Enquiries: [email protected]
• Reservations Department: TBA
• Tel: +960-4000-300


Weather:
Note: since the resort is close to Mahibadhoo (where there is a weather station), I have added this info from the Conrad Maldives thread as both resorts are close by and the weather will be the same as far as forecasts go (MaldivesFreak)
• General info on weather in the Maldives: Link 1 Link 2 (Maldivian government website)
• Recommended Android weather app: eWeather HD. See this post for detailed info on the app, settings, tips and general weather info (Courtesy of MaldivesFreak)
• Want to get an idea about the weather in the month of August? Click here to read a post from a FT member that spends 2 weeks at Rangali during this month (Courtesy of Splotly)


Pictures (resort under construction):
• January, 2018 Link to post
• June, 2018 Link to post
• Approx October, 2018 Link to post
• January, 2019 Link to post
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Old Feb 24, 19, 5:02 pm
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Originally Posted by Traveler Dave View Post
Clearly the WA, or any other resort, would prefer a full price reservation. But they will surely get more money on a points room than an empty room. The additional costs spent during the stay would of course be a nice bonus to the resort as well.


As you said in another post, the resort clearly misjudged how many guests would book using points rather than those paying cash. But anyway, points guests will still spend a tonne of money there ... I expect $20 to be charged for 750ml bottles of water at the restaurants. And then there's that US$912 for a 30 minute boat trip to and from the resort.

The resort should have had an opening "special" rate to attract guests but they went the opposite way and started 'high'. I guess when you are asking for $2,000++ per night, you start opening up many other resort options including some with water slides from the upper level of water villas into the Indian Ocean.



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Originally Posted by alanslegal View Post
I guess when you are asking for $2,000++ per night, you start opening up many other resort options including some with water slides from the upper level of water villas into the Indian Ocean.
Not doubting what you say, but where is it? I am curious to see if WA will be better than those places in other aspects in order to justify the price.
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Not doubting what you say, but where is it? I am curious to see if WA will be better than those places in other aspects in order to justify the price.
https://www.soneva.com/soneva-jani/#our-resorts



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Old Feb 24, 19, 6:01 pm
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Originally Posted by escape4 View Post
Not doubting what you say, but where is it? I am curious to see if WA will be better than those places in other aspects in order to justify the price.
Just the dates that I am booked in July, St Regis has rates around the $1200 mark for an over water property, whilst WA has the Asia Pac sale right now asking $1450 for beach villa. Before that, WA was asking for $2100. The Soneva Jani which has the water slide in their overwater villas for $1900, for the same dates.
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Old Feb 24, 19, 9:49 pm
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Does the hotel get paid the full price? I thought they only got paid a smaller percentage in which case it would make sense to sell rooms rather then give them through awards.
I don't know if this is 100% accurate but I've heard that for redemption bookings a (Hilton) property gets paid closer to the cash rate (BAR, I presume) the higher the occupancy rate is. The info came from a reputable guest who said that's what he was told by senior staff. Makes sense.


And to those of you making dummy bookings, presumably you are doing 10 rooms for one night each, correct? Not 10 rooms for multiple nights each.
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Old Feb 25, 19, 12:47 am
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Originally Posted by MaldivesFreak View Post

And to those of you making dummy bookings, presumably you are doing 10 rooms for one night each, correct? Not 10 rooms for multiple nights each.
My bad, 9 rooms is the max bookable rooms without making a group booking. And yes, you can do a multiple nights search right away!

Just checked my dates (there were 9 available 1 week ago): today only 6!
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Originally Posted by alanslegal View Post
Just the dates that I am booked in July, St Regis has rates around the $1200 mark for an over water property, whilst WA has the Asia Pac sale right now asking $1450 for beach villa. Before that, WA was asking for $2100. The Soneva Jani which has the water slide in their overwater villas for $1900, for the same dates.
To be fair though, St Regis was almost 3k when it first came out, but I agree that’s a ridiculous price to pay for low season.
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Considering biting on a 5-night points stay @ WA. Just out of curiosity, is the $740 +taxes +service RT boat transfer the highest in the Maldives? Just a quick perusal of some other properties it seems like it is, even more than seaplane transfers. Amortized over 5 nights we're talking $300+/night for a couple. It's obviously not about the money, per se, as the point redemption is a tremendous value, but it does leave a bit of a bad taste as it seems excessive.
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I've started looking for private operators to do transfers to Walfdorf. It looks like Waldorf is only 15 Miles from the airport. It looks like speedboats are going for $25 a mile, so that should be about $375 one way for as many people as the boat can hold. Waiting for Atoll Transfers to get back to me though.
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I've scrolled up in this thread for a hundred or so posts: is there any data yet on doing paid upgrades from a beach villa to an OWV?

I'm still leaning towards a Conrad booking at 380k for 5 nights, plus probably $100-150 to get a better OWV than the base one. This would be an extra 100,000 HH points, plus a higher upgrade fee (I would assume), but might be tempting to get the newer hotel and the higher W=A service level.

BTW, the 120k base beach villa here actually looks more amazing than most of the upgraded types at the Conrad. My wife has the idea of an OWV in her mind though, and I think if we fly all that way we'll want to be overwater. Otherwise we'd just grab some other high-end resort closer to our other planned destinations in Asia.
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Originally Posted by pinniped View Post
I've scrolled up in this thread for a hundred or so posts: is there any data yet on doing paid upgrades from a beach villa to an OWV?

I'm still leaning towards a Conrad booking at 380k for 5 nights, plus probably $100-150 to get a better OWV than the base one. This would be an extra 100,000 HH points, plus a higher upgrade fee (I would assume), but might be tempting to get the newer hotel and the higher W=A service level.

BTW, the 120k base beach villa here actually looks more amazing than most of the upgraded types at the Conrad. My wife has the idea of an OWV in her mind though, and I think if we fly all that way we'll want to be overwater. Otherwise we'd just grab some other high-end resort closer to our other planned destinations in Asia.
$200+t for Reef Villa (Deck is over water, Entrance is on land, for a lack of a better word, this is a "poor man's" over water)
$400+t for Over Water Villa
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$200+t for Reef Villa (Deck is over water, Entrance is on land, for a lack of a better word, this is a "poor man's" over water)
$400+t for Over Water Villa
Poor Man's watervilla haha I will take the poor mans watervilla any day of the week, Especially with $700+ pp round trip boat transfers for a 30 minute ride....for that cost I'd rather take the seaplane and get there in 5 minutes.
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Originally Posted by NightFury1 View Post
$200+t for Reef Villa (Deck is over water, Entrance is on land, for a lack of a better word, this is a "poor man's" over water)
$400+t for Over Water Villa
I was quoted the same prices. I had a similar style room as the reef villa when I stayed at Hilton Moorea, and thought it was a great room. Deck over water, but close enough on land to ice, restaurants, etc. Still looking for more data points before I make a selection.
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Originally Posted by msg75 View Post
Considering biting on a 5-night points stay @ WA. Just out of curiosity, is the $740 +taxes +service RT boat transfer the highest in the Maldives? Just a quick perusal of some other properties it seems like it is, even more than seaplane transfers. Amortized over 5 nights we're talking $300+/night for a couple. It's obviously not about the money, per se, as the point redemption is a tremendous value, but it does leave a bit of a bad taste as it seems excessive.
It‘s difficult to compare the boat transfer prices, as WA is or will be the only hotel using a big yacht for a shared transfer. Rethi Rah is charging 300++ for a shared yacht transfer(smaller yacht) or 400++ shared seaplane p.p. one way.
Other resorts like Cheval Blanc, Velaa, St.Regis... are offering private transfers with similar yachts, approx. costs 2500-3000 ++ p.hour.
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Originally Posted by mb123 View Post

It‘s difficult to compare the boat transfer prices, as WA is or will be the only hotel using a big yacht for a shared transfer. Rethi Rah is charging 300++ for a shared yacht transfer(smaller yacht) or 400++ shared seaplane p.p. one way.
Other resorts like Cheval Blanc, Velaa, St.Regis... are offering private transfers with similar yachts, approx. costs 2500-3000 ++ p.hour.
I was quoted $7,500 for a private transfer!!
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